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Glad to see the back of Duberry

by Focher » 16 May 2009 10:53

Apart from some poor management by Coppell, the vast majority of the blame for our poor end to the season rests on his shoulders. Our poor form almost immediately started with his inclusion in the team, our hoofball aimless lets bypass the wingers football became our style after his inclusion, and without being one who wants to single out a player for our disastrous run of form at home, i am in this case. It was as if his disease got to Bikey as well towards the end, and personally im totally elated that he has left RFC.

P.s, i could never question Duberry's 100% commitment, he was just shit.

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by rotherwick_royal » 16 May 2009 10:57

I agree his distribution was crap, sometimes caught out of position, suspect on the ground, but he was a towering influence in the air and from set-pieces.

Actually, reading all that back it doesn't seem that flattering :|

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by Irvinchangeyaname » 16 May 2009 10:59

Focher the vast majority of the blame for our poor end to the season rests on his shoulders.

If you'd said he was our most culpable player I would accept it, albeit disagree with it. But to say he should shoulder the 'vast majority of the blame' strikes me as letting the likes of Shunt off very lightly indeed.

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by hughsies no.1 » 16 May 2009 11:02

pathetic post. blaming the fact we didnt get promoted on doobs. yeah his distribution was shocking but golden boy pearce's is just as bad. doobs had some solid game for us as well and if you can stretch your mind back a few months are defence was what was solid and we werent conceading... so yeah sh*t post!

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by Focher » 16 May 2009 11:03

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Focher the vast majority of the blame for our poor end to the season rests on his shoulders.

If you'd said he was our most culpable player I would accept it, albeit disagree with it. But to say he should shoulder the 'vast majority of the blame' strikes me as letting the likes of Shunt off very lightly indeed.


yeah Hunt has been woeful of late, but i can't help but think that our disgraceful aimless distribution from the back made him worse than he was, he was being bypassed from games.


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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by Focher » 16 May 2009 11:07

hughsies no.1 pathetic post. blaming the fact we didnt get promoted on doobs. yeah his distribution was shocking but golden boy pearce's is just as bad. doobs had some solid game for us as well and if you can stretch your mind back a few months are defence was what was solid and we werent conceading... so yeah sh*t post!


So explain to me why we couldn't score at home for pretty much the whole of this year, where as before he was not in the team we could do nothing but score. Explain to me why Michael 'im great at set pieces' Duberry didn't actually ever score for us.

The only time Duberry was of good use was when our backs were against the wall defending a lead late in a game, and lets face it that wasn't very often. Look at our results from last season, tally up the points with Duberry in the team, and without Duberry in the team, and come back to me.

And by the way, when have i blamed him not getting promotion? You should read my post properly before criticising.
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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by Jeffers217 » 16 May 2009 11:09

So happy this man has left the club- the diving cheating hoofball twat. I for one am very much looking forward to the partnership of Bikey and Pearce flourishing, a partnership that should have been together all season. Pearce will be future captain and Bikey will groom him into a top class player who gets it down and plays it.

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by rg6royal » 16 May 2009 11:11

Doobs contribution is terrible and he has the touch of a rapist but winning headers, he is still top draw. In a way it's sad to see him go but probably the right decision.

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by rotherwick_royal » 16 May 2009 11:12

You really think Bikey is capable of grooming anyone?


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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by rg6royal » 16 May 2009 11:13

I think Pearce and Bikey next season will be a very strong partnership. And don't forgot there is Ingi who we missed hugely this season.

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by Still Hate Futcher! » 16 May 2009 11:16

hughsies no.1 pathetic post. blaming the fact we didnt get promoted on doobs. yeah his distribution was shocking but golden boy pearce's is just as bad. doobs had some solid game for us as well and if you can stretch your mind back a few months are defence was what was solid and we werent conceading... so yeah sh*t post!


I agree that blaming Doobs is extremely harsh, especially when our main issues were in midfield, i.e. nobody to boss things in the middle and no quality from the wings. The difference between our prolific first half of the season and our second half goal drought was predominanlty down to the fact Hunt and Kebe created shed loads of goals before January and were shit afterwards. Our defensive record throughout wasn't bad and you certainly can't blame a centre back for a side's attacking problems.

Have to disagree with you on Pearce though. I thought he looked quite comfortable on the ball and his distribution is far better than Doobs.

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by Archie's penalty » 16 May 2009 11:21

I am sad to see Doobs go. I think he could have helped the team through this transitional patch. But his contract was up and as Dirk said Doobs knew he was going a long time ago. Thank god we have Ingi because a defensive partnership of Bikey and Pearce is a complete no no for me. Bikey = a nutter, Pearce inexperienced. Good luck in the future Doobs...

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by Jeffers217 » 16 May 2009 11:23

Archie's penalty I am sad to see Doobs go. I think he could have helped the team through this transitional patch. But his contract was up and as Dirk said Doobs knew he was going a long time ago. Thank god we have Ingi because a defensive partnership of Bikey and Pearce is a complete no no for me. Bikey = a nutter, Pearce inexperienced. Good luck in the future Doobs...


So Bikey gets sent off so is a complete no no? When in actual fact he is one of the only 3 premiership players we have at the club. Doobs is useless


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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by rhroyal » 16 May 2009 11:25

Duberry deserves our thanks for his service and what I'm reading here is harsh. He has been a solid defender who did a solid job for mnay games in the Premiership too. I saw him play quite a few simple passes along the ground against Burnley to get moves started. His distributions wasn't always great, but most centre backs I've seen at Reading have been no better in that respect. Even when Sonko was Superman I never wanted to see him bring the ball out of defense himself. I can't remember seeing him make as many costly concentration lapses or mistakes to cost us the game as Bikey and Rosenior. I do thing it's time for him to leave simply because we're moving into a new era and he is probably past his best.

However I refuse so see the blame for us staying down placed so heavily on him. He was part of the team so he has to shoulder a certain amount, but it's not like he was a consistent weak link in an otherwise strong side. Thanks for the 2 and a half years service Doobs, you did a solid job for this club which I appreciated and don't listen to the people who just like to find a scapegoat.

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by Irvinchangeyaname » 16 May 2009 11:27

Jeffers217 So Bikey gets sent off so is a complete no no?

Where did he say that?

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by Focher » 16 May 2009 11:30

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hughsies no.1 pathetic post. blaming the fact we didnt get promoted on doobs. yeah his distribution was shocking but golden boy pearce's is just as bad. doobs had some solid game for us as well and if you can stretch your mind back a few months are defence was what was solid and we werent conceading... so yeah sh*t post!


I agree that blaming Doobs is extremely harsh, especially when our main issues were in midfield, i.e. nobody to boss things in the middle and no quality from the wings. The difference between our prolific first half of the season and our second half goal drought was predominanlty down to the fact Hunt and Kebe created shed loads of goals before January and were shit afterwards. Our defensive record throughout wasn't bad and you certainly can't blame a centre back for a side's attacking problems.

Have to disagree with you on Pearce though. I thought he looked quite comfortable on the ball and his distribution is far better than Doobs.


The midfield and wingers were bypassed from most games towards the end of last season thats why they were shit.

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by PEARCEY » 16 May 2009 11:32

I'm not sad to see Duberry go but to put the blame solely on him for our dreadful home form is nonsense. So many players from S Hunt, Matejovsky, Doyle, Kitson and Rosenior played poorly at home over the past few months. Duberry was certainly not alone in that respect.
As for a Bikey/Pearce pairing I was up for it a couple of months ago but neither have exactly covered themselves with glory in their most recent appearances for the club with the formers ridiculous behaviour last week and the latter still not learning the basics and closing down attackers. I'm not convinced they would work well together.

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by Jeffers217 » 16 May 2009 11:34

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Jeffers217 So Bikey gets sent off so is a complete no no?

Where did he say that?


Well 'everyone was raving about him before that sending off. I think that's being seen as more of a scapegoat than the dross Duberry has shown all season. Apart from one silly act he's been very solid

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by PEARCEY » 16 May 2009 11:40

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Jeffers217 So Bikey gets sent off so is a complete no no?

Where did he say that?


Well 'everyone was raving about him before that sending off. I think that's being seen as more of a scapegoat than the dross Duberry has shown all season. Apart from one silly act he's been very solid


Bikey is a terrific player a lot of the time but these drama queen tantrums dont exactly help when he then gets himself banned. He needs to cut out his little concentration lapses as well. If he can do that and control his temper he will be a major asset.
Dont get me wrong I would pick him in central defence ahead of Duberry any time but Doobs got a lot of flak when he messed up so Bikey should do so when he fcuks up.

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Re: Glad to see the back of Duberry

by Still Hate Futcher! » 16 May 2009 11:41

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hughsies no.1 pathetic post. blaming the fact we didnt get promoted on doobs. yeah his distribution was shocking but golden boy pearce's is just as bad. doobs had some solid game for us as well and if you can stretch your mind back a few months are defence was what was solid and we werent conceading... so yeah sh*t post!


I agree that blaming Doobs is extremely harsh, especially when our main issues were in midfield, i.e. nobody to boss things in the middle and no quality from the wings. The difference between our prolific first half of the season and our second half goal drought was predominanlty down to the fact Hunt and Kebe created shed loads of goals before January and were shit afterwards. Our defensive record throughout wasn't bad and you certainly can't blame a centre back for a side's attacking problems.

Have to disagree with you on Pearce though. I thought he looked quite comfortable on the ball and his distribution is far better than Doobs.


The midfield and wingers were bypassed from most games towards the end of last season thats why they were shit.


Hunt and Kebe still saw plenty of the ball, they just failed to make use of it (with the odd exception such as Kebe at Norwich). Hunt developed an irritating habit of running straight into opponents with the ball, rarely beating his man, while Kebe's crossing reminded me of a young Michael Gilkes.

As for the Bikey debate, the jury's still out. On his day he was awesome but he had a tendency to make sloppy mistakes and his temperament is suspect to say the least. Fair enough he was very unlucky to go at Cardiff but the headbutting on his debut, the nonsense at Burnley and the great comedy moment with he medic while playing for Cameroon all suggest he has major issues. That said I'd be sorry to see him go - he has the making's of a cult legend.

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