SPECULATION - Simon Cox

[Friday's Child]

If we feel that this chap is better than our other options for centre-forwards next year, and then take into the fact that we are in the best bargaining position with Swindon should there be the % sell-on fee as mentioned, then this would be an excellent piece of business. If a Premiership club offers £2m which is accepted, then with a 40% (for example) sell-on fee to Reading, Swindon would only end up with £1.2m.

On the other side, if Reading offered £1.3m and effectively wrote off the sell-on clause, Swindon get more cash than they would from a £2m deal from another club, and we get a quality player for less than the market price.

The more the market thinks he is worth (£5m, lets say for arguments sake), the better a deal is coming to Reading.

[Plymouth_Royal]

There is no way in hell he is coming back here. my friend from devizes outside swindon has shared some interesting information about simon cox, as his dad is good mates with the directors of swindon town. about a month before he left he told coppell that he wants four games in the first team to show what he can do as he had done so well at swindon. He said that if he doesnt perform well and score then he can have no complaints about not being involved in the final 16. coppell said i dont want to take a risk with you and if you do play it will be out of position on the wing so you can get educated in the way we play. cox said well i'll go to swindon and prove you wrong, the rest is history and he is now hot property in league 1. he will never come back here again as he feels he has been unfairly treated by coppell.

also that swindon are cleverly getting around our 40% sell on clause. basically celtic want sean morrison and simon cox so swindon are saying pay 3.1million for morrison and 100k for cox so we get 40k rather than over a million. very good bit of business from there point of view.

[Ian Royal]

There is no way in hell he is coming back here. my friend from devizes outside swindon has shared some interesting information about simon cox, as his dad is good mates with the directors of swindon town. about a month before he left he told coppell that he wants four games in the first team to show what he can do as he had done so well at swindon. He said that if he doesnt perform well and score then he can have no complaints about not being involved in the final 16. coppell said i dont want to take a risk with you and if you do play it will be out of position on the wing so you can get educated in the way we play. cox said well i'll go to swindon and prove you wrong, the rest is history and he is now hot property in league 1. he will never come back here again as he feels he has been unfairly treated by coppell.

also that swindon are cleverly getting around our 40% sell on clause. basically celtic want sean morrison and simon cox so swindon are saying pay 3.1million for morrison and 100k for cox so we get 40k rather than over a million. very good bit of business from there point of view.

Interesting conspiracy theory.

Cox was a bit of an idiot if he thought he was going to get 4 games on the bounce upfront in the Premier League after showing decet form in League 1.

Believe it when I see it. I kind of doubt it'll happen given that would shaft Cox and his agent, who I believe get a cut of transfer fees?

[Alan Partridge]

There is no way in hell he is coming back here. my friend from devizes outside swindon has shared some interesting information about simon cox, as his dad is good mates with the directors of swindon town. about a month before he left he told coppell that he wants four games in the first team to show what he can do as he had done so well at swindon. He said that if he doesnt perform well and score then he can have no complaints about not being involved in the final 16. coppell said i dont want to take a risk with you and if you do play it will be out of position on the wing so you can get educated in the way we play. cox said well i'll go to swindon and prove you wrong, the rest is history and he is now hot property in league 1. he will never come back here again as he feels he has been unfairly treated by coppell.

also that swindon are cleverly getting around our 40% sell on clause. basically celtic want sean morrison and simon cox so swindon are saying pay 3.1million for morrison and 100k for cox so we get 40k rather than over a million. very good bit of business from there point of view.

Interesting conspiracy theory.

Cox was a bit of an idiot if he thought he was going to get 4 games on the bounce upfront in the Premier League after showing decet form in League 1.

Believe it when I see it. I kind of doubt it'll happen given that would shaft Cox and his agent, who I believe get a cut of transfer fees?

He definitely didn't deserve them, it was just as well our other forwards were banging them in.

[West Stand Man]

There is no way in hell he is coming back here. my friend from devizes outside swindon has shared some interesting information about simon cox, as his dad is good mates with the directors of swindon town. about a month before he left he told coppell that he wants four games in the first team to show what he can do as he had done so well at swindon. He said that if he doesnt perform well and score then he can have no complaints about not being involved in the final 16. coppell said i dont want to take a risk with you and if you do play it will be out of position on the wing so you can get educated in the way we play. cox said well i'll go to swindon and prove you wrong, the rest is history and he is now hot property in league 1. he will never come back here again as he feels he has been unfairly treated by coppell.

also that swindon are cleverly getting around our 40% sell on clause. basically celtic want sean morrison and simon cox so swindon are saying pay 3.1million for morrison and 100k for cox so we get 40k rather than over a million. very good bit of business from there point of view.

The weakness in that story is clear to anyone with any business education. The full value of the deal will be measured in terms of the assessed value of the exchanged player + the cash addition, so the 40% will still be based on the full value of Simon Cox in that deal. Similarly, if Morrison has a sell on clause his value would be (Cox - the cash element).

[Royal Rother]

Indeed - but the naivety is almost refreshing.

The other weakness is of course that Coppell isn't manager of Reading FC any more.

[Plymouth_Royal]

There is no way in hell he is coming back here. my friend from devizes outside swindon has shared some interesting information about simon cox, as his dad is good mates with the directors of swindon town. about a month before he left he told coppell that he wants four games in the first team to show what he can do as he had done so well at swindon. He said that if he doesnt perform well and score then he can have no complaints about not being involved in the final 16. coppell said i dont want to take a risk with you and if you do play it will be out of position on the wing so you can get educated in the way we play. cox said well i'll go to swindon and prove you wrong, the rest is history and he is now hot property in league 1. he will never come back here again as he feels he has been unfairly treated by coppell.

also that swindon are cleverly getting around our 40% sell on clause. basically celtic want sean morrison and simon cox so swindon are saying pay 3.1million for morrison and 100k for cox so we get 40k rather than over a million. very good bit of business from there point of view.

The weakness in that story is clear to anyone with any business education. The full value of the deal will be measured in terms of the assessed value of the exchanged player + the cash addition, so the 40% will still be based on the full value of Simon Cox in that deal. Similarly, if Morrison has a sell on clause his value would be (Cox - the cash element).

im really not making this up mate. this is exactly what i've heard word for word. As for business education no i havent had any as im 23 and just finished my degree!!
But I dont see how what you said makes any sense. Swindon know cox is worth about 2.5 million and they want just under a million for sean morrison. its up to them how much they value for each player and if it means adjusting the values so the club gets the best deal for there long term future then so be it. They can easily say to celtic buy both players seperatley morrison for 3million and cox for a 100k. If there is some sort of legality they have to follow when it comes to the value of a player then why dont you use your vast business knowledge and enlighten me.

[Friday's Child]

Sure Brendan Rodgers would know if he is worth bringing back or not....

[West Stand Man]

im really not making this up mate. this is exactly what i've heard word for word. As for business education no i havent had any as im 23 and just finished my degree!!
But I dont see how what you said makes any sense. Swindon know cox is worth about 2.5 million and they want just under a million for sean morrison. its up to them how much they value for each player and if it means adjusting the values so the club gets the best deal for there long term future then so be it. They can easily say to celtic buy both players seperatley morrison for 3million and cox for a 100k. If there is some sort of legality they have to follow when it comes to the value of a player then why dont you use your vast business knowledge and enlighten me.

You've answered your own question to some extent.

I confess to having misread your original, I had (wrongly) assumed that the deal was a player + cash swap rather than 2 players going in the same direction ( ). Either way, it would be fraudulent to do the deal you describe and although Swindon do have a track record in dodgy transfer dealings I suspect they'd be wary of risking it again!

[andrew1957]

There is no way in hell he is coming back here. my friend from devizes outside swindon has shared some interesting information about simon cox, as his dad is good mates with the directors of swindon town. about a month before he left he told coppell that he wants four games in the first team to show what he can do as he had done so well at swindon. He said that if he doesnt perform well and score then he can have no complaints about not being involved in the final 16. coppell said i dont want to take a risk with you and if you do play it will be out of position on the wing so you can get educated in the way we play. cox said well i'll go to swindon and prove you wrong, the rest is history and he is now hot property in league 1. he will never come back here again as he feels he has been unfairly treated by coppell.

also that swindon are cleverly getting around our 40% sell on clause. basically celtic want sean morrison and simon cox so swindon are saying pay 3.1million for morrison and 100k for cox so we get 40k rather than over a million. very good bit of business from there point of view.

The weakness in that story is clear to anyone with any business education. The full value of the deal will be measured in terms of the assessed value of the exchanged player + the cash addition, so the 40% will still be based on the full value of Simon Cox in that deal. Similarly, if Morrison has a sell on clause his value would be (Cox - the cash element).

im really not making this up mate. this is exactly what i've heard word for word. As for business education no i havent had any as im 23 and just finished my degree!!
But I dont see how what you said makes any sense. Swindon know cox is worth about 2.5 million and they want just under a million for sean morrison. its up to them how much they value for each player and if it means adjusting the values so the club gets the best deal for there long term future then so be it. They can easily say to celtic buy both players seperatley morrison for 3million and cox for a 100k. If there is some sort of legality they have to follow when it comes to the value of a player then why dont you use your vast business knowledge and enlighten me.

If you think Sir John would let them get away with that wheeze you are living in cloud cuckoo land. Reading would immediately sue Swindon and claim 40% of our valuation of the player now.

[Ian Royal]

There is no way in hell he is coming back here. my friend from devizes outside swindon has shared some interesting information about simon cox, as his dad is good mates with the directors of swindon town. about a month before he left he told coppell that he wants four games in the first team to show what he can do as he had done so well at swindon. He said that if he doesnt perform well and score then he can have no complaints about not being involved in the final 16. coppell said i dont want to take a risk with you and if you do play it will be out of position on the wing so you can get educated in the way we play. cox said well i'll go to swindon and prove you wrong, the rest is history and he is now hot property in league 1. he will never come back here again as he feels he has been unfairly treated by coppell.

also that swindon are cleverly getting around our 40% sell on clause. basically celtic want sean morrison and simon cox so swindon are saying pay 3.1million for morrison and 100k for cox so we get 40k rather than over a million. very good bit of business from there point of view.

Interesting conspiracy theory.

Cox was a bit of an idiot if he thought he was going to get 4 games on the bounce upfront in the Premier League after showing decet form in League 1.

Believe it when I see it. I kind of doubt it'll happen given that would shaft Cox and his agent, who I believe get a cut of transfer fees?

He definitely didn't deserve them, it was just as well our other forwards were banging them in.

Nice try. Kitson had 8 by the end of December and Doyle had 5. Not bad going by any means. It was during January the goals started drying up. That would be the January where Cox left.

[Ian Royal]

There is no way in hell he is coming back here. my friend from devizes outside swindon has shared some interesting information about simon cox, as his dad is good mates with the directors of swindon town. about a month before he left he told coppell that he wants four games in the first team to show what he can do as he had done so well at swindon. He said that if he doesnt perform well and score then he can have no complaints about not being involved in the final 16. coppell said i dont want to take a risk with you and if you do play it will be out of position on the wing so you can get educated in the way we play. cox said well i'll go to swindon and prove you wrong, the rest is history and he is now hot property in league 1. he will never come back here again as he feels he has been unfairly treated by coppell.

also that swindon are cleverly getting around our 40% sell on clause. basically celtic want sean morrison and simon cox so swindon are saying pay 3.1million for morrison and 100k for cox so we get 40k rather than over a million. very good bit of business from there point of view.

The weakness in that story is clear to anyone with any business education. The full value of the deal will be measured in terms of the assessed value of the exchanged player + the cash addition, so the 40% will still be based on the full value of Simon Cox in that deal. Similarly, if Morrison has a sell on clause his value would be (Cox - the cash element).

im really not making this up mate. this is exactly what i've heard word for word. As for business education no i havent had any as im 23 and just finished my degree!!
But I dont see how what you said makes any sense. Swindon know cox is worth about 2.5 million and they want just under a million for sean morrison. its up to them how much they value for each player and if it means adjusting the values so the club gets the best deal for there long term future then so be it. They can easily say to celtic buy both players seperatley morrison for 3million and cox for a 100k. If there is some sort of legality they have to follow when it comes to the value of a player then why dont you use your vast business knowledge and enlighten me.

Fine you aren't making it up. You're just really gullible and whoever told you is making it up.

It's so full of holes its ridiculous.

[Ian Royal]

So with Rodgers all but confirmed and in post, does that increase, decrease or not affect the chances of Cox coming back.

Obviously he's going to know Brendon, could that have a significant bearing?

[Barry the bird boggler]

A significant bearing

[Rawlie19]

Will be surprised if he does come back, but I did always rate him from watching some of his reserve game meetings. Also, he scored a cracking goal from almost the half way line against Arsenal Youths. I think it was in a Youth FA Cup game.

[RG30]

http://www.graememurtytestimonial.com/blog.asp

A nice story about Cox with charity the winner.

[Deathy]

So with Rodgers all but confirmed and in post, does that increase, decrease or not affect the chances of Cox coming back.

Obviously he's going to know Brendon, could that have a significant bearing?

If Tommy Smith is indeed his top target, Cox isn't even in his thinking! Unless of course you are hanging on to dear life that loads of money is available...

[Ian Royal]

So with Rodgers all but confirmed and in post, does that increase, decrease or not affect the chances of Cox coming back.

Obviously he's going to know Brendon, could that have a significant bearing?

If Tommy Smith is indeed his top target, Cox isn't even in his thinking! Unless of course you are hanging on to dear life that loads of money is available...

Maybe he's waiting to see if Doyle goes, because we won't need Cox as much. Maybe the stuff about Smith being his top target is paper talk. Smith from what I've heard can play on the wing and is in the last year of his contract. We may have some sort of preferential clause in Cox's contract (who is a striker) which means he won't cost us the £2m+ a lot of people are talking about.

No reason we couldn't get both if winger and striker are areas Rodgers want's to strengthern and they are his targets.

[Royal Lady]

Seriously - do you really think we would sell Cox for peanuts and then pay a million to get him back??? It's not the "Reading way".

[Deathy]

So with Rodgers all but confirmed and in post, does that increase, decrease or not affect the chances of Cox coming back.

Obviously he's going to know Brendon, could that have a significant bearing?

If Tommy Smith is indeed his top target, Cox isn't even in his thinking! Unless of course you are hanging on to dear life that loads of money is available...

Maybe he's waiting to see if Doyle goes, because we won't need Cox as much. Maybe the stuff about Smith being his top target is paper talk. Smith from what I've heard can play on the wing and is in the last year of his contract. We may have some sort of preferential clause in Cox's contract (who is a striker) which means he won't cost us the £2m+ a lot of people are talking about.

No reason we couldn't get both if winger and striker are areas Rodgers want's to strengthern and they are his targets.

There is a reason we can't both. It's called about £3m.