New Signings ?

[PlasticRoyale]

I'm liking the emphasis on youth and how we're hearing transfer news again now we've changed manager.

How many successive defeats will you tolerate before demanding his dismissal?

I'm giving him to half time in the first game. If we're not winning i'll start the motivational booing

[brendywendy]

I'm liking the emphasis on youth and how we're hearing transfer news again now we've changed manager.

How many successive defeats will you tolerate before demanding his dismissal?

You don't need to worry about that - he won't get anywhere near Coppell's 8 in 2007/8. It may not happen overnight, but this guy clearly has a long term plan which Coppell never had in all his time at the club and has the confidence to back himself which his predecessor frankly didn't have the balls to do by never dropping certain players.

LOL at random predictions


i predict duck dodgers wont get anywhere near 106 points either


and FFS
who are these players that coppell wouldnt drop?
they were all dropped last season, and it failed to have the magical effect you were predicting

[Royalee]

LOL at random predictions


i predict duck dodgers wont get anywhere near 106 points either


and FFS
who are these players that coppell wouldnt drop?
they were all dropped last season, and it failed to have the magical effect you were predicting

It's a bit different dropping a player and then putting them back in after one game to giving your favourites enddless chances. Don't just take my word for it - 'I dropped Jem because we lost a game and this probably wasn't a reflection on his performances' or 'I just wanted a bit of familiarity so I brought Marcus back, but Federici's played well and done nothing wrong'. What sort of bullshit excuses for team selection are these?

Duck Rodgers? I see you're giving him lots of time to stamp his authority on the club and all the patience you gave Steve 'I've spent over 20 years in management but still have absolutely no idea as to why my team are playing crap' Coppell your idol.


As for 'random predictions', I'm basing my predictions on what he's accomplished in his coaching and short managerial career and also the fact that everyone who's worked with him (whether they be our youngsters in Henry and Pearce, Hammond or Jose Mourinho) rates him extremely highly. I think it's fairly amusing that Coppell's spent all that time in the game and has so few contacts and resorts to returning to the likes of Brentford for players yet Rodgers has surrounded himself with quality like Mourinho and Lampard Sr. Also, given how supposedly clever and studious our previous manager is, why is it that Rodgers is bi-lingual, giving him a HUGE advantage in attracting and motivating a far vaster array of players compared to Mr 'I'm caught in the 1980's and won't change'.

[Sun Tzu]

. Also, given how supposedly clever and studious our previous manager is, why is it that Rodgers is bi-lingual, giving him a HUGE advantage in attracting and motivating a far vaster array of players compared to Mr 'I'm caught in the 1980's and won't change'.

So Rodgers having a smattering of Spanish is going to help us sign players ?

And Coppel not speaking a foreign language meant we didn't look abroad at Iceland, France, USA, Mali, Cameroon, Ireland, Senegal or Czech Republic ? Noit sure where the logic is in that !!

Coppell has a degree, Rodgers doesn't. Presumably on that basis Rodgers will struggle to attract and motivate players with a brain cell ?
Coppell Played top class club and international footballer whereas Rodgers didn;t make the grade as a player, so Rodgers will struggle to attract and motivate players with any footballing skills ?

[Royalee]

. Also, given how supposedly clever and studious our previous manager is, why is it that Rodgers is bi-lingual, giving him a HUGE advantage in attracting and motivating a far vaster array of players compared to Mr 'I'm caught in the 1980's and won't change'.

So Rodgers having a smattering of Spanish is going to help us sign players ?

And Coppel not speaking a foreign language meant we didn't look abroad at Iceland, France, USA, Mali, Cameroon, Ireland, Senegal or Czech Republic ? Noit sure where the logic is in that !!

Coppell has a degree, Rodgers doesn't. Presumably on that basis Rodgers will struggle to attract and motivate players with a brain cell ?
Coppell Played top class club and international footballer whereas Rodgers didn;t make the grade as a player, so Rodgers will struggle to attract and motivate players with any footballing skills ?

We looked at players he'd worked with before or alternatively he fell out of touch with foreign players like Seol, Sonko, Bikey, Fae and Matejovsky.

Coppell's degree isn't in football or really applicable and good players don't necessarily make good managers - see Tony Adams and John Barnes.

[brendywendy]

LOL at random predictions


i predict duck dodgers wont get anywhere near 106 points either


and FFS
who are these players that coppell wouldnt drop?
they were all dropped last season, and it failed to have the magical effect you were predicting

It's a bit different dropping a player and then putting them back in after one game to giving your favourites enddless chances. Don't just take my word for it - 'I dropped Jem because we lost a game and this probably wasn't a reflection on his performances' or 'I just wanted a bit of familiarity so I brought Marcus back, but Federici's played well and done nothing wrong'. What sort of bullshit excuses for team selection are these?

Duck Rodgers? I see you're giving him lots of time to stamp his authority on the club and all the patience you gave Steve 'I've spent over 20 years in management but still have absolutely no idea as to why my team are playing crap' Coppell your idol.


As for 'random predictions', I'm basing my predictions on what he's accomplished in his coaching and short managerial career and also the fact that everyone who's worked with him (whether they be our youngsters in Henry and Pearce, Hammond or Jose Mourinho) rates him extremely highly. I think it's fairly amusing that Coppell's spent all that time in the game and has so few contacts and resorts to returning to the likes of Brentford for players yet Rodgers has surrounded himself with quality like Mourinho and Lampard Sr. Also, given how supposedly clever and studious our previous manager is, why is it that Rodgers is bi-lingual, giving him a HUGE advantage in attracting and motivating a far vaster array of players compared to Mr 'I'm caught in the 1980's and won't change'.

LOL


its duck dodgers, not duck rodgers

[brendywendy]

It's a bit different dropping a player and then putting them back in after one game to giving your favourites enddless chances. Don't just take my word for it - 'I dropped Jem because we lost a game and this probably wasn't a reflection on his performances' or 'I just wanted a bit of familiarity so I brought Marcus back, but Federici's played well and done nothing wrong'. What sort of bullshit excuses for team selection are these?

i thought hunt, doyle,nhunt harper,brynn, kebe,were all dropped for more than one game, sometimes even in a row.
kitson and hunt also being dropped for teh most imprortant game of our season.......

[SteveRoyal]

Also...
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/s ... -21442024/

Charlie Adam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWjkq3z3xRE

[Hoop Blah]

To be fair the latter ones were mainly panic measures to try and find some spark to save our season.

By then I think it was all a little too late and the real damage was done over the previous 18 months as the squad was unbalanced and far far too cosy for too many of the players.

I think it's a bit rich for some people to be having a pop at Royalee for having and opinion and backing it up over time, especially when one of them created quite a club critical thread basically calling for some major changes at the top of the club.

[brendywendy]

To be fair the latter ones were mainly panic measures to try and find some spark to save our season.

By then I think it was all a little too late and the real damage was done over the previous 18 months as the squad was unbalanced and far far too cosy for too many of the players.

I think it's a bit rich for some people to be having a pop at Royalee for having and opinion and backing it up over time, especially when one of them created quite a club critical thread basically calling for some major changes at the top of the club.

LOL at royalee being sensitive enough to take this good natured banter as a personal insult.

[brendywendy]

To be fair the latter ones were mainly panic measures to try and find some spark to save our season.


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if you demand players are dropped to sort the team out, you cannot pick and choose your time periods, when it doesnt end up having the effect you thought it would

[Hoop Blah]

To be fair the latter ones were mainly panic measures to try and find some spark to save our season.


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if you demand players are dropped to sort the team out, you cannot pick and choose your time periods, when it doesnt end up having the effect you thought it would

But the timing of changing the team has a massive effect on the impact and effectiveness of the changes.

I think Coppell was possibly right to make some of the late in the day, what I termed panic changes, because he had to do something because we were still having real difficulties in performing at home and he had to do something. That doesn't mean that I don't think he made mistakes in team selection earlier in the season though.

[Royalee]

Ideally I'd have preferred all the changes to happen at the same time rather than counteracting every positive change (e.g. dropping Hahnemann and putting in Federici) with a crap change (preferring Duberry to Pearce or Bikey).

[Royalee]

Also...
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/s ... -21442024/

Charlie Adam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWjkq3z3xRE

Obviously he's not done that consistently otherwise he'd still be in their first team, but it shows he's certainly got potential, which is a lot more than Kebe and Hunt have.

[brendywendy]

To be fair the latter ones were mainly panic measures to try and find some spark to save our season.


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if you demand players are dropped to sort the team out, you cannot pick and choose your time periods, when it doesnt end up having the effect you thought it would

But the timing of changing the team has a massive effect on the impact and effectiveness of the changes.

I think Coppell was possibly right to make some of the late in the day, what I termed panic changes, because he had to do something because we were still having real difficulties in performing at home and he had to do something. That doesn't mean that I don't think he made mistakes in team selection earlier in the season though.

sorry, you mistook me for someone was serious when he said you cannot pick and change time periods.
of course you can.


though i still think he was far , far better with the loyalty issue in the last season than royalee gives credit for, even earlier on in the season

[brendywendy]

Ideally I'd have preferred all the changes to happen at the same time rather than counteracting every positive change (e.g. dropping Hahnemann and putting in Federici) with a crap change (preferring Duberry to Pearce or Bikey).

that the same bikey who clearly played doobs off the pitch in the playoff games.......?

[Royalee]

1. He only played one game.
2. Yes he was stupid, but he's cost us far less than Duberry and with Pearce's leadership and proper management most people think he'd be a top player. Marseille clearly rate him.

[brendywendy]

not as much as i do at 2.5 million.hes worth 5 IMO

you believe doobs was awful, i believe he was good enough to merit his place most times last season.-clearly bikey is better, but if the other option was pearce you have to go with one of the experienced heads IMO.
whereas you seem to ignore the fact that a pearce/bikey defence was considered very inexperienced by the coaches that saw them every day.
either way its just opinion, neither is right or wrong, and neither can be proven, no matter how many times you say it.

[Royalee]

not as much as i do at 2.5 million.hes worth 5 IMO

you believe doobs was awful, i believe he was good enough to merit his place most times last season.-clearly bikey is better, but if the other option was pearce you have to go with one of the experienced heads IMO.
whereas you seem to ignore the fact that a pearce/bikey defence was considered very inexperienced by the coaches that saw them every day.
either way its just opinion, neither is right or wrong, and neither can be proven, no matter how many times you say it.

Please enlighten me as to what those coaches who saw them every day managed to do with the squad that was easily good enough to gain promotion. Perhaps if those coaches were correct in their beliefs then they'd still be working at RFC.

[Sun Tzu]

not as much as i do at 2.5 million.hes worth 5 IMO

you believe doobs was awful, i believe he was good enough to merit his place most times last season.-clearly bikey is better, but if the other option was pearce you have to go with one of the experienced heads IMO.
whereas you seem to ignore the fact that a pearce/bikey defence was considered very inexperienced by the coaches that saw them every day.
either way its just opinion, neither is right or wrong, and neither can be proven, no matter how many times you say it.

Please enlighten me as to what those coaches who saw them every day managed to do with the squad that was easily good enough to gain promotion. Perhaps if those coaches were correct in their beliefs then they'd still be working at RFC.

They managed to select a defence that was one of the tightest in the division.

Our failure to gain promotion was not down to our defence, so to suggest that selection errors over which centre back pairing to use cost us seems a bit like arguing that the catering on the Titanic was not up to scratch.