The search for a manager who is not a yes man...

[strap]

OK then genisus...name a manager that actively spends more than he's allowed to by his chairman/board?

Ian Porterfield tried, (well actually he didn't report a £50k bid for one of our players that the Directors would have acceopted, which is similar), and was promptly sacked! Can't remember who the player was.

[LoyalRoyal22]

So you thick people want Rodgers out after 4 games?

[Agent Balti]

So you thick people want Rodgers out after 4 games?

Stupid is as stupid does...

[Terminal Boardom]

Jesus the idiots are out in force tonight.

TB agrees with Royalee for once!

[Platypuss]

If that means losing lots of glory hunting school kids or associated idiots whose lives are so pathetic that they need to bask in the reflected glory of their football team to have any sort of personality, and whose reaction AFTER 3 GAMES is to demand a new Manager, then I think the loss of those "fans" its something that the club won't lose too much sleep over.

Not so sure about that, Mr A, our "hardcore" isn't all that sizeable. A large proportiion of our future revenue, and certainly any future growth will rely on getting "gloryhunters" on board.

[Victor Meldrew]

If that means losing lots of glory hunting school kids or associated idiots whose lives are so pathetic that they need to bask in the reflected glory of their football team to have any sort of personality, and whose reaction AFTER 3 GAMES is to demand a new Manager, then I think the loss of those "fans" its something that the club won't lose too much sleep over.

Not so sure about that, Mr A, our "hardcore" isn't all that sizeable. A large proportiion of our future revenue, and certainly any future growth will rely on getting "gloryhunters" on board.

Don't agree with the original post but agree with this.
The "customers" are what keeps the club afloat or rather what they spend on replica shirts,food,booze,car parking SkyTV subscriptions,RFC credit cards etc.
The club doesn't bar it's customers as pubs don't bar customers because they have loot.

Much as some would have us playing in front of 2000 RTGs probably in The Conference I'm afraid we have to put up with customers who will sound off whenever they feel like it-that's modern life with the God aka mobile phone disrupting people's space with twats shouting inane stuff about where they are going or where they have been.
Regrettably in many ways if you follow a club in the 21st century the fellow customers expect instant everything whether that be a new manager after 4 games or a youngster to be discarded after 2,such is life at RFC and other clubs.
If you don't like it you will have to move to a desert island and watch no football or just watch TV because going to matches you will also hear the same twats shouting on their mobiles going to and from games and shouting rubbish during the games themselves.

[Forbury Lion]

.... goes on it seems. We need someone who - for the good of the club - will tell Madejski that he is wrong not to invest.

Madejski has many investments and oppourtunities. Like a good businessman he will invest the most in the ones with the best high/guaranteed return split.

Perhaps economics will see a change in investment - How are the other businesses in the Madejski portfolio coping in these difficult times? Perhaps he's concentrating his cash on the development of Station Hill.... yet that could be a white elephant now thanks to the property slump.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Folk said the same about centre point in London, yet despite being empty and seen as a white elephant for years it returned a fortune to the developers. The station thing may never happen under JM, but he can make a fortune selling it as it stands, it is how it works. green park , empty and desolote, yet will make the pru a lot of money, esp when the M4 junction s done

[Huntley & Palmer]

If that means losing lots of glory hunting school kids or associated idiots whose lives are so pathetic that they need to bask in the reflected glory of their football team to have any sort of personality, and whose reaction AFTER 3 GAMES is to demand a new Manager, then I think the loss of those "fans" its something that the club won't lose too much sleep over.

Not so sure about that, Mr A, our "hardcore" isn't all that sizeable. A large proportiion of our future revenue, and certainly any future growth will rely on getting "gloryhunters" on board.

I'd say the 11,000 or so ST's that renewed this season constitutes a decent hardcore of fans for a club of our size.

[Dirk Gently]

People need to get a dictionary and work out what a "yes man" is.

It's certainly not someone who takes a job and listens to the constraints they'll be working under, because every job in every industry in the world is like that.

BR certainly won't bend over and take any shit or agree endlesly with the management - he knows what he wants and he's determined to get it.

Surely the fact that he was the most expensive appointment of all those who applied tells a story?

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

so despite the two years in the prem, we have the same number of ST holders as 05/06, talk about brick by brick, yet Norwich have the same number despite falling from grace form the the prem to div 1

shows how big a club we are, on a par with swindon and oxford still

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

People need to get a dictionary and work out what a "yes man" is.

It's certainly not someone who takes a job and listens to the constraints they'll be working under, because every job in every industry in the world is like that.

BR certainly won't bend over and take any shit or agree endlesly with the management - he knows what he wants and he's determined to get it.

Surely the fact that he was the most expensive appointment of all those who applied tells a story?

so if thats a fact do pray let us know who else applied, and how cheap they were?

[Dirk Gently]

People need to get a dictionary and work out what a "yes man" is.

It's certainly not someone who takes a job and listens to the constraints they'll be working under, because every job in every industry in the world is like that.

BR certainly won't bend over and take any shit or agree endlesly with the management - he knows what he wants and he's determined to get it.

Surely the fact that he was the most expensive appointment of all those who applied tells a story?

so if thats a fact do pray let us know who else applied, and how cheap they were?

The list was fairly well-discussed at the time. Certainly no-one else on there was at a club with the sort of long-term contract remaining that required the level of compensation we needed to pay Watford. BR's salary demands, to meet his opinion of his worth, are also in the higher bracket of all those who replied.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

the list was mostly rumour, we were told there were many applicants, but i dont recall any names being mentioned from the club, so did BR apply or did we approach him??? would be interesting to know

[leon]

.... goes on it seems. We need someone who - for the good of the club - will tell Madejski that he is wrong not to invest. Yes it is largely his money and he can do what he likes with it but with a bit (actually a lot) more ambition he could make the club successful as well as financially secure. But the way he is going will see a steady reduction of the fan base and an inevitable decline to League One or Two.

but that's why he was hired - he was willing to have his team sold off from under him because he thought he could replace them with the kids that he worked with. The other option was staying at Watford and having the same happen but without the kids...

The competition for who can make the thickest post of the week is clearly gaining momentum.

The team being sold off is Coppell's...................that's the one that was costing as much as 30k a week per player and produced relegation form in the last half of last season but why let facts get in the way of yet another pathetic attempt to blame the chairman for failures on the pitch.

wtf are you talking about? It's BR's team - all of it not just the ones he bought - doesnt matter where they came from??

Prior to taking the job, BR would have discussed with JM the future ie having to cut costs by reducing the wage bill, and using more of the youngsters.

BR would have weighed up his options ie facing the same thing at Watford but without such a strong backbone of youth coming through (or not - that's the big question). Hence this was his best bet.

That was my point. Was it that difficult to understand?

[westendgirl]

so despite the two years in the prem, we have the same number of ST holders as 05/06

Are you sure - I thought the start of 2005/06 there were 9000 not 11000. Not a great increase but it is an increase and well within the brick by brick definition.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

so despite the two years in the prem, we have the same number of ST holders as 05/06

Are you sure - I thought the start of 2005/06 there were 9000 not 11000. Not a great increase but it is an increase and well within the brick by brick definition.

you may well be closer than I was, http://www.readingfc.co.uk/page/NewsDet ... 17,00.html

[79Royal]

so despite the two years in the prem, we have the same number of ST holders as 05/06

Are you sure - I thought the start of 2005/06 there were 9000 not 11000. Not a great increase but it is an increase and well within the brick by brick definition.

Especially when you consider we had 15,000 last season and we're now in the middle of a recession. I'd have bought a season ticket if financial constraints caused by the credit crunch hadn't prevented me I dare say there are others in that bracket.

[IMAMATEOFJOVSKY]

and another 20% drop next season may make them sit up and ask why! I doubt it - we have gone from a premiership club on the edge or European involvement to an also-ran club in the Championship that is looking south - been asset stripped, and now playing the team that last season was, at best, our reserve team .... the lack of ambition at the club is unbelievable, and the sooner we get the current chairman out, and someone in who sees a vision for the future, the better!

[Dirk Gently]

and another 20% drop next season may make them sit up and ask why! I doubt it - we have gone from a premiership club on the edge or European involvement to an also-ran club in the Championship that is looking south - been asset stripped, and now playing the team that last season was, at best, our reserve team .... the lack of ambition at the club is unbelievable, and the sooner we get the current chairman out, and someone in who sees a vision for the future, the better!

The phrase "be careful what you wish for....." springs to mind.