BR Leaves Club

[MmmMonsterMunch]

LOL at Coppel being blamed for our current predicament. Utterly ridiculous. We'll not see the dizzy heights of PL footy again anytime soon. The man has integrity & class - unlike Rodgers.

I don't want him back that ship has sailed but come on BR has not spent wisely at all. JM has made a huge mistake with BR but give the man some credit - he has done what needed to be done despite the damage to his pocket.

[Ian Royal]

I actually take Royalee's point, but still agree with I_R.

If I was Madejski, I'd take the gamble and get rid as well. But who's fault it all was... that's another question.

Obviously it's a combination of Coppell's failings last season, Madj & Hammond & Co making possibly dubious decision in trying to go straight back up and not making the reduction in costs more gradual. Then of course in appointing someone out of their depth. All that is a major factor in us being at the wrong end of the table.

For me the killer though, is that Rodgers is the man who oversaw us fall so spectacularly into a relegation fight that we probably would have lost under him. The person who has made mistake after mistake after mistake. And failed to correctly address our squad inadequacies and play in a way that suited the players at the club, until, let's face it, it was too late.

Even then he carried on making rather bizzarre selection and tactic choices.

[howser]

Mutual Consent, would have loved to have heard the conversation at the board meeting, this is the time of year that the January budget is discussed, and we all know what the egomonster thinks about spending on football players !! have sympathy for BR he came here with the belief that he could push us on, and who knows he might have done. As for the next one well I suppose the main criterea will be that he is presently out of work, so Mr tightarse wont have to pay any compensation. Ferguson is the obvious choice although I suppose Curbishly, Dowie, Sanchez and mybe even Hoddle, would all come into the frame

[willz_royal]

Bad decision.

[Arch]

A relegation fight that was pretty obvious we would be in during SJM press conference at the end of last season where he used the infamous phrase of "cutting the cloth" which is basically a fannys way of saying "i'm not going to invest in this football club next season"

You can't sell the quality of players we had and not re-invest in the team and expect to not be in a relegation fight!

Swansea aren't in a relegation fight, nor are Watford, Palace, even Doncaster - all of whom have sold off their best players and not re-invested any more than we have. Don't be so simplistic. The news is replete with stories of clubs that "invested" and are in a giant financial hole. It's not a simple matter of a cheeky five or ten mil to fix all our problems.

[rob the royal]

I actually take Royalee's point, but still agree with I_R.

If I was Madejski, I'd take the gamble and get rid as well. But who's fault it all was... that's another question.

Obviously it's a combination of Coppell's failings last season, Madj & Hammond & Co making possibly dubious decision in trying to go straight back up and not making the reduction in costs more gradual. Then of course in appointing someone out of their depth. All that is a major factor in us being at the wrong end of the table.

For me the killer though, is that Rodgers is the man who oversaw us fall so spectacularly into a relegation fight that we probably would have lost under him. The person who has made mistake after mistake after mistake. And failed to correctly address our squad inadequacies and play in a way that suited the players at the club, until, let's face it, it was too late.

Even then he carried on making rather bizzarre selection and tactic choices.

That's what I thought you'd say - as it's what I think as well. The problem comes with the red bit, I'm a bit worried about who we get in now, what if they bring the wrong man in - but I'm remaining slightly hopeful as well. I reckon it was 50/50 whether we went down or not under Rodgers, and now we've got the opportunity to swing those odds back in our favour (or to throw it all away)

[Arch]

As for the next one well I suppose the main criterea will be that he is presently out of work, so Mr tightarse wont have to pay any compensation.

You mean like he did for our last two managers?

[Ian Royal]

McGhee, Quinn & Gooding, Pardew, Coppell.

Bullivant, Burns, Rodgers.

The odds are in favour of a good manager.

[I was there at Elm Park]

Unless we see a rapid improvement in results then I personally think this has been a bad move. Rodgers has made lots of mistakes but the football we played on Saturday did not deserve a sacking. What I want to know is whether he would have been sacked if Sigurdsson's last minute free kick had gone in? If the answer is no then this sacking is in my opinion a disgrace.

[Rex]

I personally want to wish Brendan luck & success in his next role.... I hope that whatever club he ends up at he has the full backing of his chairman and fans (something which he did not get with us)

I personally was feeling quite positive about the way things were going and was looking forward to us going and beating a team 4-0 / 5-0 cos it was going to happen sooner or later with all the chances we were creating.

John Madejski has stitched Brendan up a treat! Our chairman in the space of 2 seasons has turned this club from being a premiership club to a league 1 club!

i'm sure the compensation should suffice there, though the mutual consent tag probably won't.

[John Peel]

Too soon, too soon. Incredible changes since the summer - both in terms of backroom staff and players. Look at the teams in a similar position this time last year who sacked their managers... they were relegated. Peterborough has sacked its manager... still sh*t. Unless we get a decent manager (unlikely with the money we have) you'll see it wasn't the manager's fault.

I genuinely feel sorry for BR. He's been associated with this club for so long and must be gutted. This was his homecoming and it's turned out to be a nightmare.

[Kitson12]

I personally want to wish Brendan luck & success in his next role.... I hope that whatever club he ends up at he has the full backing of his chairman and fans (something which he did not get with us)

I personally was feeling quite positive about the way things were going and was looking forward to us going and beating a team 4-0 / 5-0 cos it was going to happen sooner or later with all the chances we were creating.

John Madejski has stitched Brendan up a treat! Our chairman in the space of 2 seasons has turned this club from being a premiership club to a league 1 club!

+1 One of the few with a modicum of sense in the thread.

[Royalee]

sometime think you dont know what your talking about i have repleyed to you many time you use coppell as a scape goat all rodgers has done is taken us backward get it right

Here's a novel idea, go and look at our form from February last season, look at who we've lost up front in the summer and the lack of financial backing we've had due to the money Coppell spent on wages last season and then tell me it's Rodgers' fault.

Do you mean the lack of financial backing we;ve had in paying £500k - £1m in compo to Watford for Rodgers, and the £3.5m we've committed to player fees under him?

And who was it who failed to bring in the right mix of players to make his tactics work or fill our blatantly obvious flaws, this summer? Let alone failed to pick a settled team until he reached the point that one more duff performance would have had him on his bike immediately. And ignored our problems upfront in the loan window when it was highly likely we'd be punished for it.

Coppell made mistakes, quite a lot in th elast couple of years. But he was a success at one point and his worst mistakes saw us finish 4th last season and be realistically looking at lower mid-table rebuilding this season.

Coppell took us from Play off Contenders, to the top flight and then (inevitably) took us back down to Championship also rans at worst.

Rodgers took us straight into a relegation fight and that's it.

Both Watford signings have been our main goal threat this season and we've invested in a young centre back, which we are seeing is needed given how shit Ingimarsson is these days. How is that a waste of money?

He tried to sign Cox in the loan window and was knocked back - would you rather he signed crap players for the sake of it when we couldn't get anyone better?

Coppell had a team with some superb players in Hahnemann, Murty, Shorey, Sidwell, Forster and so on - he left us with a far weaker squad at the end of his tenure than when he started with the only players who had 'experience' being with crap or in severe decline. Yet somehow it's not his fault? What a load of old bollocks.

[Ian Royal]

Too soon, too soon. Incredible changes since the summer - both in terms of backroom staff and players. Look at the teams in a similar position this time last year who sacked their managers... they were relegated. Peterborough has sacked its manager... still sh*t. Unless we get a decent manager (unlikely with the money we have) you'll see it wasn't the manager's fault.

I genuinely feel sorry for BR. He's been associated with this club for so long and must be gutted. This was his homecoming and it's turned out to be a nightmare.

Well there's also P'boro (screwed regardless) Wednesday & Plymouth. We can't all go down. And sacking a manager worked pretty well for hopeless Barnsley.

[Royalee]

sometime think you dont know what your talking about i have repleyed to you many time you use coppell as a scape goat all rodgers has done is taken us backward get it right

Here's a novel idea, go and look at our form from February last season, look at who we've lost up front in the summer and the lack of financial backing we've had due to the money Coppell spent on wages last season and then tell me it's Rodgers' fault.

Coppell identified the players he wanted Hammond negotiated the actual contracts. Terrible substitutions,Over complicated tactics, mouthing off about other clubs players and generally being a jumped up prat, all Brendan Rodgers.

I despair sometimes - your brain must indeed be made of sand.

[rob the royal]

Unless we see a rapid improvement in results then I personally think this has been a bad move. Rodgers has made lots of mistakes but the football we played on Saturday did not deserve a sacking. What I want to know is whether he would have been sacked if Sigurdsson's last minute free kick had gone in? If the answer is no then this sacking is in my opinion a disgrace.

The football on saturday didn't necessarily deserve a sacking, but what I saw gave me no reason to believe our chances of staying up under Rodgers were better than evens.

They played that game like they expected to win it easily. The mentality has been all wrong, I don't feel I'm seeing any passion or commitment from the team as a whole and I put that down to Rodgers constantly saying how great we are and bemoaning a lack of consistency for throwing away points (in games where we've only started to give it a go when it's too late)

[Kitson12]

Too soon, too soon. Incredible changes since the summer - both in terms of backroom staff and players. Look at the teams in a similar position this time last year who sacked their managers... they were relegated. Peterborough has sacked its manager... still sh*t. Unless we get a decent manager (unlikely with the money we have) you'll see it wasn't the manager's fault.

I genuinely feel sorry for BR. He's been associated with this club for so long and must be gutted. This was his homecoming and it's turned out to be a nightmare.

Well there's also P'boro (screwed regardless) Wednesday & Plymouth. We can't all go down. And sacking a manager worked pretty well for hopeless Barnsley.

Doesn't mean it'll work for us does it?

[Royalee]

McGhee, Quinn & Gooding, Pardew, Coppell.

Bullivant, Burns, Rodgers.

The odds are in favour of a good manager.

How do Quinn and Gooding qualify as good managers? Actually I'm not even sure I want to know, I struggle to get my head around even your most considered posts.

[I was there at Elm Park]

Too soon, too soon. Incredible changes since the summer - both in terms of backroom staff and players. Look at the teams in a similar position this time last year who sacked their managers... they were relegated. Peterborough has sacked its manager... still sh*t. Unless we get a decent manager (unlikely with the money we have) you'll see it wasn't the manager's fault.

I genuinely feel sorry for BR. He's been associated with this club for so long and must be gutted. This was his homecoming and it's turned out to be a nightmare.

Well there's also P'boro (screwed regardless) Wednesday & Plymouth. We can't all go down. And sacking a manager worked pretty well for hopeless Barnsley.

I went to the Barnsley game and Saturday's game and I can tell you there is a world of difference between Rodgers' Reading and Davey's Barnsley. Some of the football we played on Saturday was really good and no one can doubt that the players were giving it there all. Barnsley on the other hand were useless and didn't look like they were trying.

[sandman]

I despair sometimes - your brain must indeed be made of sand.

Referred to many times by both parties that Hammond negotiated the contracts because he supposedly dealt with the finances (didn't do a very good job). If my brain is made of sand yours is made of concrete.