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Re: Kebe

by brendywendy » 14 Jan 2010 16:24

utter tosh

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Re: Kebe

by Arch » 14 Jan 2010 16:26

brendywendy utter tosh

Not the most successful totp

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Re: Kebe

by brendywendy » 14 Jan 2010 16:31

LOL- OOps
whatever!

screw you all, you bloody kebe haterzzz, im going home

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Re: Kebe

by SteveRoyal » 14 Jan 2010 16:37

He can run.
He can skin people.
He can't cross.
He can't make quick decisions.
He can scare people.

A few attributes that you want wingers to have.
Another few you want every player to have.

One moment last night that summed the lad up:
Near the end, we're winning 2-1.
4 Royals v 2 Pools.
He dashes forwards, receives the ball.
Then turns back on himself at least twice, allowing Pools to get back and tackle.

If he had just dink'd the ball it could have been 3-1 Royals.

Good, but frustrating at the same time.
You can see why he came on, but at the same time you wonder if he'll ever have the balls to cross a ball.

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Re: Kebe

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 14 Jan 2010 16:45

Cant be too negative last night but Kebe was awful.

Everything he did was wrong, tried to take players on when he should pass, tried to pass when he should have taken players on.

We need a consistent winger imo. Kebe is far too hit and miss and Jobi is hardly Mr Steady.

Last night was Kebe at his worst, still think he can impact games at this level as sub. He's so umpredictable.


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Re: Kebe

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 14 Jan 2010 16:48

ZacNaloen
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Mills had his best game in a Reading shirt last night. He blocked a number of chances with quick thinking.

Sure he got a couple of clearances a bit wrong, but he more than made up with it with his all round game. Well, I thought.

Massive improvement over Pearce at least.


Mills reminds me of John Mackie, a great defender, except when he has time to think about it.

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Re: Kebe

by LoyalRoyalFan » 14 Jan 2010 16:59

Plus, when we had the chance to break and make it 3-1, he started walking rather than running? Plus, he only just came off the bench, so he can't complain about fitness.

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Re: Kebe

by yappy » 14 Jan 2010 17:00

LoyalRoyalFan Plus, when we had the chance to break and make it 3-1, he started walking rather than running? Plus, he only just came off the bench, so he can't complain about fitness.


To be fair he was probably just trying to hold the ball up, keep possession and run down the clock. Not alot wrong with that. Should've done better with the 4 on 2 chance though.

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Re: Kebe

by brendywendy » 14 Jan 2010 17:01

kebe triple hat trick at the weekend
that ll learn you all


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Re: Kebe

by LoyalRoyalFan » 14 Jan 2010 17:03

yappy
LoyalRoyalFan Plus, when we had the chance to break and make it 3-1, he started walking rather than running? Plus, he only just came off the bench, so he can't complain about fitness.


To be fair he was probably just trying to hold the ball up, keep possession and run down the clock. Not alot wrong with that. Should've done better with the 4 on 2 chance though.


But he then lost possession.

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Re: Kebe

by The whole year inn » 14 Jan 2010 19:49

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TBM Personally i thought Mills was our worse distributor last night........gave the ball away too much, didn't clear his lines well enough, didn't put his foot through the ball into row z (infact the ball failed to go out of play) and they nearly scored from it.


Mills had his best game in a Reading shirt last night. He blocked a number of chances with quick thinking.

Sure he got a couple of clearances a bit wrong, but he more than made up with it with his all round game. Well, I thought.

Massive improvement over Pearce at least.



Thought Mills was great and he will only get better. Ingi looks good alongside him. As for Pearce, I would rather play the following object than him. It's quicker:



Yep.

better results in the league will coincide with Pearce being dropped.

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Re: Kebe

by Man Friday » 14 Jan 2010 19:58

Hugo Boss So, a great result last night as we're all agreed... But WTF is Jimmy Kebe all about??

All he did last night was pussy-foot around, running it into touch when under no pressure and then when he did have a chance to kill the game off after we went 2-1 up, he somehow ends up turning back on himself and giving the ball away.

Absolute waste of space. Wants shooting.

Agree, 95% (just feel that he needs selling rather than shooting - we might get a few more quid!).

I got more animated over Kebe's play than Long scoring. Also not impressed with Howard giving the ball away in the closing seconds when we were 4 on 2. How hard can it be to retain possession in a situation like that? If they had scored from it...!!!

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Re: Kebe

by Ian Royal » 14 Jan 2010 20:09

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ZacNaloen Mills had his best game in a Reading shirt last night. He blocked a number of chances with quick thinking.

Sure he got a couple of clearances a bit wrong, but he more than made up with it with his all round game. Well, I thought.

Massive improvement over Pearce at least.



Thought Mills was great and he will only get better. Ingi looks good alongside him. As for Pearce, I would rather play the following object than him. It's quicker:



Yep.

better results in the league will coincide with Pearce being dropped.


Better results will coincide with not playing two really really slow centrebacks together with a really sluggish right back. Ivar has upped his game massively as well as being helped out by having someone quicker next to him. Nothing to do with Pearce being poor.


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Re: Kebe

by SteveRoyal » 14 Jan 2010 20:21

The whole year inn Yep.

better results in the league will coincide with Pearce being dropped.

Or Mills being in.

Let's be honest, Pearce is just a younger and more inexperienced Ingimarsson.
The football world clearly rates him, just look at Coppell, Rodgers, McDermott and numerous other football pundits and managers who have praised him.

We've just never seen Pearce alongside anyone suitable.
Last season he impressed, and that's because he played alongside Duberry (who's an older Mills, shall we say?)

We just need another defender other than Mills who has more pace than a snail.

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Re: Kebe

by rob the royal » 14 Jan 2010 20:24

Both were better than rasiak IMO.

Cisse just did a job, broke things up and not much more. gave the ball away a few times and tried a few through balls that didn't work out. Personally I was a little surprised to see him go off. A solid 6/10

Kebe was ok but I reckon he could easily have been a bit more direct with his running - look at how easily gunnarsson was tearing them up!!! But it seemed like he just wanted to try and hang on to the ball for as long as possible when really he could have bagged himself a goal or set someone up. Ran the ball out of play - fair enough. But did a lot of tracking back, which i suppose the kebe-haters will all have failed to notice. A decent 5 or 6 for his late cameo IMO.

Meanwhile i did notice rasiak do pretty much naff all... as usual. (Apart from the obvious miss - although I think he didn't expect that to come to him) But honestly, the guy's 6ft or so and has scored a couple of decent headed goals - but does very little else. He's got the touch of a giant baseball bat and for someone so tall rarely heads the ball in the direction he wants to. When he tries to hold the ball someone always just nicks it from underneath him. But stick a ball in front of his head a few yards from goal and he'll probably put it away. So... the guy hasn't got a great deal to offer... And yet all you lot do is moan about Kebe's substitute performance.

I wouldn't have mentioned any of that about Rasiak after last night. It doesn't need to be mentioned but after hearing all this dross about Kebe AGAIN I'm truly getting fed up of hearing about how rubbish Kebe is even when he just comes on as a sub. Everyone seems to put up with ALL of Rasiak's failings because he gets a few goals. And yet the same defence is raised for Kebe (in that he does or has in the past provided a few assists) and yet everyone still bangs on about how terrible he is.

IMO Rasiak and Kebe are equally useful AND equally useless! :shock:

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Re: Kebe

by Ian Royal » 14 Jan 2010 20:27

That's the point though. Rasiak is there to score goals and take the attention of the defenders. He does this.

Kebe is there to create goals or score them. He does neither. Although I'd agree he is getting very harsh criticism.

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Re: Kebe

by Dirk Gently » 14 Jan 2010 20:27

rob the royal Kebe was ok but I reckon he could easily have been a bit more direct with his running - look at how easily Gunnar's was tearing them up!!! But it seemed like he just wanted to try and hang on to the ball for as long as possible when really he could have bagged himself a goal or set someone up.


But when you're winning away with 29 minutes left, hanging onto the ball for as long as possible is a much better tactic than taking a risk that is likely to give possession away.

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Re: Kebe

by rob the royal » 14 Jan 2010 20:32

Ian Royal That's the point though. Rasiak is there to score goals and take the attention of the defenders. He does this.

Kebe is there to create goals or score them. He does neither. Although I'd agree he is getting very harsh criticism.


Maybe not recently, but I'm pretty sure he was the provider for a fair number of goals early on this season.Anyway how many goals has Rasiak scored (that's not a sarcastic question by the way, I really can't remember how many he's got so far)?

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Re: Kebe

by Ian Royal » 14 Jan 2010 20:34

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Ian Royal That's the point though. Rasiak is there to score goals and take the attention of the defenders. He does this.

Kebe is there to create goals or score them. He does neither. Although I'd agree he is getting very harsh criticism.


Maybe not recently, but I'm pretty sure he was the provider for a fair number of goals early on this season.Anyway how many goals has Rasiak scored (that's not a sarcastic question by the way, I really can't remember how many he's got so far)?


Rasiak has 6 goals with 1 assist.

Kebe has 1 goal with 2 assists, although he did make a further two goals against Barnsley, but they weren't actually assists.

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Re: Kebe

by rob the royal » 14 Jan 2010 20:37

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Ian Royal That's the point though. Rasiak is there to score goals and take the attention of the defenders. He does this.

Kebe is there to create goals or score them. He does neither. Although I'd agree he is getting very harsh criticism.


Maybe not recently, but I'm pretty sure he was the provider for a fair number of goals early on this season.Anyway how many goals has Rasiak scored (that's not a sarcastic question by the way, I really can't remember how many he's got so far)?


Rasiak has 6 goals with 1 assist.

Kebe has 1 goal with 2 assists, although he did make a further two goals against Barnsley, but they weren't actually assists.


Ok so if we call that 6+1 for Rasiak and 1+4 for Kebe then really it's not too far off IMO considering Rasiak must have had a lot more minutes I imagine...

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