Bring back Coppell

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Re: Bring back Coppell

by facaldaqui » 27 Jan 2010 13:54

Some of you are making me feel ill by talking about Megson. Noooooo!

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Re: Bring back Coppell

by facaldaqui » 27 Jan 2010 14:00

Hang on, hang on, we can still beat relegation. Lets give Brian a decent run at it.

Bring someone new in now and we will still be at ground zero. It's not possible to wave a wand and make people like Rasiak and Church prolific, or to teach Long how to play football. Without some decent money for new loans, what could a new manager do different now? Brian showed he could get us winning in the cup; lets see if he can do it in the league.

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Re: Bring back Coppell

by fester_royal » 27 Jan 2010 14:06

[quote="facaldaqui"]Hang on, hang on, we can still beat relegation. Lets give Brian a decent run at it.


thats what i like to see, blind faith.
the fact that the board is increasingly anti positive says something about the poop we're in. In the quarter century ive been a royal ive always thought of royals as a balanced bunch. in the last 9 months negativety has taken this club by storm.
threads like this are just insane! sir steve would be a mug to come back, and even if he did hes hardly got a good record under pressure!

face it people, the once saviour of sir john has quite literally sold us down to lower league football! hence hes run away to his home in tenerife :evil:

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Re: Bring back Coppell

by Plymouth_Royal » 27 Jan 2010 14:07

rhroyal When Rodgers was sacked, I thought that Darren Ferguson was the obvious choice after the summer etc. When Irvine was sacked at Preston, I thought he could be a contender. When McDermott was given the caretaker job, I thought he was worth a chance. 2 points from 5 league games later, I'd say he hasn't taken it.

Our indecisiveness has seen the opportunity to sign two managers who will be very good down here pass by. Sheff Wed have taken Irvine and are pulling away. Ferguson has gone to Preston, who won last night. How many other options do we have? I honestly can't see Curbishley coming to our club, he'd be mad.

So would Coppell be to an extent, but it would be utterly in character with him to return. He has always thrived on lower league football. He develops strong affiliations with clubs that speak louder than common sense, you only have to look some of the circumstances he returned to Palace in. This club is now special to him, and more so, his reputation here would be safe. Would he be blamed for taking us down this season? Not particularly. He'd have little to lose.

And now why I think he would be good, lets look at his strengths and weaknesses:

Strengths:
- Has always been good at getting the best out hungry players with something to prove.
- Has always been good at working on cheap budgets and building squads on a shoe string.
- Capable of bringing the extra level out of more experienced players. Ivar, USA, Little, Murty etc. Could we see it from Rasiak, McAnuff, even Long?
- A strong understanding and affiliation of the club. Could boost morale etc.

Weaknesses:
- Can be too loyal to "his" players and team. Well, "his" team is dead now. Can't really be too loyal to them.
- Can't cope with big egos and players heads being turned elsewhere. Hunt, Shorey, Kitson etc. Who in our current squad does that apply to?
- Has always failed at phase 2 of building a club. Same mistakes made at Palace and Reading with failing to strengthen and build on success. Who cares about this stage right now?!

So there's my opinion, he is available and I hope that he will come back if we approach him. Could be our best bet.


Feck that.

He had 2 good seasons with us and the rest was dire. His methods are outdated and his 'style' of football forced me to never watch Reading again. He got us in this mess and to be fair tried to get us out of it, but just made things worse. He has a grudge against quality up and coming players and would rather give 'hard workers' a chance. Remember when he dropped Karacan last season and our results deteriorated. What did he do it about it, NOTHING. Remember the Liverpool game and he gave McAnuff MOTM when quite clearly Karacan was our star player. Federici came in last season and did well only to be 'unfairly dropped' in his own words. Remember an endless run of shite performances from S.Hunt only to be dropped for the last bloody game. The guy plays anti football and I strongly feel a return to Reading will see the end of players like Sigurdsson, Karacan and Church. Only to be replaced with Gunarsson, Cisse and Long.

You also have to ask yourself would appointing a manager who set us on a downward spiral and had no idea how to solve it be good for the club?

Personally, I don't think so.


Greatest manager in Reading's history no doubt. But times change and if you can't adapt, then you'll get found out as we did.

As for Gary Megson :lol: :lol:

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Re: Bring back Coppell

by shoey » 27 Jan 2010 14:08

DO NOT GET MEGSON! he is shit and over rated, and not loyal at all!!

BRING BAK SSC

even if just till end of the season

PLEASE


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Re: Bring back Coppell

by loyalroyal4life » 27 Jan 2010 14:30

SSC until the end of the season and that is all. I would like MCderm to be his assistant though

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Re: Bring back Coppell

by Royalwaster » 27 Jan 2010 14:33

ShinPad I think this is about the ONLY time I would EVER want Megson at our club, that is how low we have sunk. I reckon he could actually sort our lazy, gutless team out.

RHRoyal, you haven't summed everything I was thinking to myself in the shower this morning, but it wasn't all RFC related so I understand.


Not sure our team is lazy ShinPad - what makes you say that? You're very wrong if you think that all it takes for us to survive relegation is given them a kick up their backsides; it's much more about self-belief and mental resilience. You can see from the Liverpool game that they are very willing to work hard.

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Re: Bring back Coppell

by Alan Partridge » 27 Jan 2010 14:44

Whilst I love Coppell, appreciate what he did for Reading, really enjoy seeing him on telly when he's doing media work....he's hardly the man to call up for a relegation scrap. He's had as many relegations as Nigel Quashie.

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by Comfortably Numb » 27 Jan 2010 14:48

Alan Partridge Whilst I love Coppell, appreciate what he did for Reading, really enjoy seeing him on telly when he's doing media work....he's hardly the man to call up for a relegation scrap. He's had as many relegations as Nigel Quashie.


reading, palace and :?: :|


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by Ferris » 27 Jan 2010 14:50

Comfortably Numb
Alan Partridge Whilst I love Coppell, appreciate what he did for Reading, really enjoy seeing him on telly when he's doing media work....he's hardly the man to call up for a relegation scrap. He's had as many relegations as Nigel Quashie.


reading, palace and :?: :|


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Re: Bring back Coppell

by Royal Lady » 27 Jan 2010 14:54

We keep going round and round in circles. I can't see Coppell wanting to come back, even until end of season unless he could guarantee we stay up - which, of course, he can't. There will still be some numbskulls who'll blame him for us going down (if we get relegated and he's come back) - and who will believe that if Rodgers had stayed we'd be in the play offs or something.

I don't want SSC to tarnish his brilliant reputation with us and all the good works he did for us, by coming back for 5 months and not being able to stop the slide. And I don't expect he does either.

You all talk about SJM throwing money at the club to keep us up, but there's still no guarantee of that in any case. And when you look at Man City and the millions they've paid out for top players, they only now appear to be making some sort of progress - we need time, time that we haven't got. I don't want us to be relegated, but if it means going down, getting in new owners, and then bouncing back and attempting to replicate our best Championship/Premiership years, I'll take that.

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by Focher » 27 Jan 2010 14:56

Royal Lady We keep going round and round in circles. I can't see Coppell wanting to come back, even until end of season unless he could guarantee we stay up - which, of course, he can't. There will still be some numbskulls who'll blame him for us going down (if we get relegated and he's come back) - and who will believe that if Rodgers had stayed we'd be in the play offs or something.

I don't want SSC to tarnish his brilliant reputation with us and all the good works he did for us, by coming back for 5 months and not being able to stop the slide. And I don't expect he does either.

You all talk about SJM throwing money at the club to keep us up, but there's still no guarantee of that in any case. And when you look at Man City and the millions they've paid out for top players, they only now appear to be making some sort of progress - we need time, time that we haven't got. I don't want us to be relegated, but if it means going down, getting in new owners, and then bouncing back and attempting to replicate our best Championship/Premiership years, I'll take that.


thats not a bad post for a woman.

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Re: Bring back Coppell

by Hoop Blah » 27 Jan 2010 14:57

Nick Shorey my Lord! If Megson joins that will be the final nail in the coffin of the modern day RFC.


In what way?

I'm growing more to the idea of him being a good short term measure to give us a better chance of staying up then looking at it again in the summer.

I can see him seeing that as a win-win situation and I can't see McDermott being given the job on a longer term deal than that anyway.


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Re: Bring back Coppell

by Comfortably Numb » 27 Jan 2010 14:58

Focher
Royal Lady We keep going round and round in circles. I can't see Coppell wanting to come back, even until end of season unless he could guarantee we stay up - which, of course, he can't. There will still be some numbskulls who'll blame him for us going down (if we get relegated and he's come back) - and who will believe that if Rodgers had stayed we'd be in the play offs or something.

I don't want SSC to tarnish his brilliant reputation with us and all the good works he did for us, by coming back for 5 months and not being able to stop the slide. And I don't expect he does either.

You all talk about SJM throwing money at the club to keep us up, but there's still no guarantee of that in any case. And when you look at Man City and the millions they've paid out for top players, they only now appear to be making some sort of progress - we need time, time that we haven't got. I don't want us to be relegated, but if it means going down, getting in new owners, and then bouncing back and attempting to replicate our best Championship/Premiership years, I'll take that.


thats not a bad post for a woman.


tbf her husband prolly used the wrong username :!:

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Re: Bring back Coppell

by londinium » 27 Jan 2010 15:00

What we need to get us out of this mess>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< THE TEAM TO PLAY TO THEIR ABILITY


Do you all not agree that......


Feds - very good shot stopper, suspect at crosses and sometimes positionally (sounds like Marcus) - certianly good enough at this level
Bertrand - Excellent full back -More than good enough at this level
Griffin - proven at this level
Mills - quality is there to see and good enough
Ivar - 100% man, getting on though, good team leader and has what is needed 'til end of season
McAnuff - On his day has proven with us and Palarse that he is one of the best wingers in the Champ
Sig - I am not mad on this guy but everyone else rates him highly
Karacan - Hard working and good enough in the Champ
Jimmy Kebe - I love the guy so I am biased - nobody can doubt that he can be very good but lacks the consistancy.
Cisse/Gunnar/Matty/Tabb - All good enough to hold there own in the Prem - champ should be a doddle for them and on their day it is.
Long- Did it in the champ and prem and was the only one who kept us in with a chance at the end of last season when everyone else faltered.
Rasiak - Proven goal scorer at this level
Church - Not sure either way on him.
Thorvaldsson - not here long enough to pass judgement
Khizanishvili - not here long enough to pass judgement

On the whole what we have should be good enough to get us out of where we are, and many games this season we have proven in the first half of games under Rodgers that we are good enough and in second half of games under Mc D that we are good enough.

We are NOT too good to go down but .....from what I have seen from a lot of teams in this division we ARE certianly good enough to stay up.

As for getting back SCC, once again I am biased as I loved him as a player when i was a kid and living close to Palace I have followed his career through out and would welcome him back with open arms... whether he can do the job though is a different matter.

Megson - could definately do the job but I have an irrational dislike for the man - NO NO NO NO NO .
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Re: Bring back Coppell

by Royal Lady » 27 Jan 2010 15:00

oh feck off Jay - I'm perfectly capable of saying what I think without needing Schards to do it for me. :roll:

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Re: Bring back Coppell

by Royal Lady » 27 Jan 2010 15:01

And how much do you think Megson would want in wages???

No, it's McDermott or nothing I reckon. Cheap as chips.

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Re: Bring back Coppell

by Focher » 27 Jan 2010 15:02

Royal Lady oh feck off Jay - I'm perfectly capable of saying what I think without needing Schards to do it for me. :roll:


ah i think ive cottoned on a little late to who comfortably numb was.

im on your side darling.

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Re: Bring back Coppell

by Royal Lady » 27 Jan 2010 15:04

Oi less of the darling :evil: .

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Re: Bring back Coppell

by nickbob_sexypants » 27 Jan 2010 15:06

I think one of the major problems is the relationship between manager and players.

Obviously I am not at the club so cannot say too much, but from listening to how BM and McD spoke about the players it seems like they were more 'pals' with the players.

The manager as I see it should surely be their boss and not their friend. I think this is where Coppell was good and got the best results out of players.

It just seems to me that the player / manager relationship is not quite right at the moment and needs someone to come in and show some authority so the players are almost scared of the consequences if they under perform.

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