Director of Football

[Jimmy the Tree]

Please think of the Environment and recycle old threads.

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

Hammond's got a Merc, not an Aston Martin.

He's far to clever to rock up in some massive motor.

People can talk shit all they want, he's going nowhere.

[Hoop Blah]

I think they may have been getting confused with Howe, who did have a Aston, but I think got rid of it the year we got relegated.

I certainly used to see him in a Merc with the old number plate from his Aston at some point.

[Terminal Boardom]

I think they may have been getting confused with Howe, who did have a Aston, but I think got rid of it the year we got relegated.

I certainly used to see him in a Merc with the old number plate from his Aston at some point.

He sure has a different car but with the same HOW 47 plate or something similar. Giveaway is that his parking space says NH. Oh

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

I think they may have been getting confused with Howe, who did have a Aston, but I think got rid of it the year we got relegated.

I certainly used to see him in a Merc with the old number plate from his Aston at some point.

He sure has a different car but with the same HOW 47 plate or something similar. Giveaway is that his parking space says NH. Oh

I always knew he was a tit. But that really confirms it....

[Thaumagurist*]

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[RoyalBlue]

"I don't like him, he talks funny, I don't want him at the club, why is there a DoF, blah blah blah blah blah blah."

Jesus fecking Christ.

Doyler posed a perfectly reasonable question. Why do you feel the need to act like an idiot?

He doesn't feel the need to act.

[RoyalBlue]

Never fully understood DoF - useful in the days of Madman takin RFC seriously when we actually tried to better the club (Doyle, Convey etc) but now that we're relying on academy players and loanees it's pointless.

As for freeing up money I'm not sure lack of money has ever been the problem!

So we haven't made 10 signings this season, broken our non Premier League season spending record, released or sold lots of players and contracts have stopped being negotiated.

If anything DoF will have been as busy as ever this season.

But don't let any of that logic get in the way of your blinkered view point will you.

And don't let our position in the league get in the way of yours!

He may have been busy but the effing results of his activities have been dire!

As for records broken, maybe we can pull that stunt to get out of trouble. A question of statistics and lies if ever there was one. The more telling figure and the reason why we are deep in the shyte is the net spending figure! I wonder how that negative investment fits in with the records?

As we're talking Aston Martins, let's draw a parallel. I sell my Aston Martin, which I bought when we were in the PL and buy a Toyota Prius. The Prius is the most expensive car I have ever bought during our time outside the PL but, for some strange reason, the performance doesn't seem anywhere near as good as that of the Aston Martin! To make matters worse, despite the recession all of my immediate neighbours still appear to be driving far better cars and I can't keep up with them.

[Terminal Boardom]

Does the DoF scout players? I would not have thought so.

[Hoop Blah]

Does the DoF scout players? I would not have thought so.

Ours absolutely does.

It's on record that was involved in the scouting of players throughout Coppells time at the club.

[Thaumagurist*]

Does the DoF scout players? I would not have thought so.

Ours absolutely does.

It's on record that was involved in the scouting of players throughout Coppells time at the club.

Quite right. I would imagine that a DoF would want to check himself that the player is worthwhile buying.

[Vision]

As we're talking Aston Martins, let's draw a parallel. I sell my Aston Martin, which I bought when we were in the PL and buy a Toyota Prius. The Prius is the most expensive car I have ever bought during our time outside the PL but, for some strange reason, the performance doesn't seem anywhere near as good as that of the Aston Martin! To make matters worse, despite the recession all of my immediate neighbours still appear to be driving far better cars and I can't keep up with them.

So despite not being able to afford the Aston Martin because your income has been slashed since you started buying Aston Martins you will continue to buy them even though it will put you in deep financial debt.

Maybe its just that I don't read you correctly, I understand that you hate Madejski and all that (with good reason no doubt), but do you still honestly expect to be shopping in the same market place despite drastically reduced income and nowhere near the ability to afford it. You just seem too clever a bloke to actually believe that but thats precisely what your analogy says.

[Millsy]

Never fully understood DoF - useful in the days of Madman takin RFC seriously when we actually tried to better the club (Doyle, Convey etc) but now that we're relying on academy players and loanees it's pointless.

As for freeing up money I'm not sure lack of money has ever been the problem!

So we haven't made 10 signings this season, broken our non Premier League season spending record, released or sold lots of players and contracts have stopped being negotiated.

If anything DoF will have been as busy as ever this season.

But don't let any of that logic get in the way of your blinkered view point will you.

True and I was thinking that as I clicked submit - even if it's not the big money signings that we want coming in, business is still business whatever way it's going and a DoF is vital for that - we did after all get good money for players sold. Things were arguably even busier than normal this season. Mr Mad isn't stupid and won't be paying someone for nothing. Good point.

But don't let the frequent good points you make get in the way of your continuing attitude problems when trying to make them will you.

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

Does the DoF scout players? I would not have thought so.

Ours absolutely does.

It's on record that was involved in the scouting of players throughout Coppells time at the club.

Always seemed to be McDermott recomends to Hammond, who then watches the player are recomended to Coppell.

[Terminal Boardom]

Does the DoF scout players? I would not have thought so.

Ours absolutely does.

It's on record that was involved in the scouting of players throughout Coppells time at the club.

Always seemed to be McDermott recomends to Hammond, who then watches the player are recomended to Coppell.

If DoF did get involved with the scouting it would be much further down the line. EG:

1. Manager tells scout to find x
2. Scout watches a number of games
3. Scout files dossier with manaer to review
4. Manager shortlists a number of possibles with specific areas for observation
5. Scout watces more games involving shortlisted players
6. Scout refiles dossier with manager
7. Manager selcts the best 2 options and attends matches with scout
8. Manager rejects options, or...
9. Manager goes to DoF with a suggestion that player x is acquired
10. DoF and Manager watch player x
11. DoF and Manager discuss whether persuing player x is an option
12. DoF approaches Chief Exec for approval to approach club of player x to assess availability and cost
13. DoF informs CE of cost
14. CE either approves if money is available or... goes to SJM
15. SJM says the cloth has been cut and the club must operate within its means
16. The merry-go-round goes on turning

Or something like that. I would not have thought that the DoF to be out and about scouting here, there and everywhere but I am probably wrong.

[Ian Royal]

Never fully understood DoF - useful in the days of Madman takin RFC seriously when we actually tried to better the club (Doyle, Convey etc) but now that we're relying on academy players and loanees it's pointless.

As for freeing up money I'm not sure lack of money has ever been the problem!

So we haven't made 10 signings this season, broken our non Premier League season spending record, released or sold lots of players and contracts have stopped being negotiated.

If anything DoF will have been as busy as ever this season.

But don't let any of that logic get in the way of your blinkered view point will you.

And don't let our position in the league get in the way of yours!

He may have been busy but the effing results of his activities have been dire!

As for records broken, maybe we can pull that stunt to get out of trouble. A question of statistics and lies if ever there was one. The more telling figure and the reason why we are deep in the shyte is the net spending figure! I wonder how that negative investment fits in with the records?

You do know that none of that has any relevance to whether there is any point in us having a DoF or whether we should get rid of the position and make the Assistant Manager or Manager perform the duties right?

[Hoop Blah]

TB, I think you'll pretty much all the 'footballing staff' are out and about watching a few games a week. In our case that includes the DoF as well.

[Ian Royal]

Never fully understood DoF - useful in the days of Madman takin RFC seriously when we actually tried to better the club (Doyle, Convey etc) but now that we're relying on academy players and loanees it's pointless.

As for freeing up money I'm not sure lack of money has ever been the problem!

So we haven't made 10 signings this season, broken our non Premier League season spending record, released or sold lots of players and contracts have stopped being negotiated.

If anything DoF will have been as busy as ever this season.

But don't let any of that logic get in the way of your blinkered view point will you.

True and I was thinking that as I clicked submit - even if it's not the big money signings that we want coming in, business is still business whatever way it's going and a DoF is vital for that - we did after all get good money for players sold. Things were arguably even busier than normal this season. Mr Mad isn't stupid and won't be paying someone for nothing. Good point.

But don't let the frequent good points you make get in the way of your continuing attitude problems when trying to make them will you.

Well I apologise if you realised your point was flawed straight away and I caused offence. It's refreshing to see someone actually take a sensible post in reply and respond to it in kind, rather than digging your heels in and spouting rhetoric.

That happens so rarely on here, and I get so fed up of reading poorly thought out posts from people who aren't interested in finding out what they are talking about I sometimes give up on giving people a chance before I lay into them.

[Franchise FC]

How about :

Now that we know we're not going to sign anyone, we've saved the redundancy payments by making the Chief Scout the Manager
(nice move)

No need to replace the scout, but this does now question the need for a more senior position - and this would apply irrespective of my view of the two NH's. It would probably make sense to cut one of those positions UNLESS the salaries being paid are not the going rate (it is entirely possible that Howe's salary is a cut down version based on the work he does with SJM's other businesses)

However, this is all speculation, of course

[Hoop Blah]

...and I get so fed up of reading poorly thought out posts from people who aren't interested in finding out what they are talking about I sometimes give up on giving people a chance before I lay into them.

Stop posting so many of them then!