Potential Takeover??

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by brendywendy » 14 Jan 2011 10:10

ooooooooooooooooo!








& clique of 2 goes to clique of 20 over night


at this rate we can take over the world in a month

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by Royal With Cheese » 24 Jan 2011 10:14

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prostak There's unfounded rumours and there's demonstrable shite.


Tbf, the Demonstrable Shite forum probably wouldn't get very many posts.

Are you kidding? It would be the permanent home for half the board.

Only half?

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by under the tin » 25 Jan 2011 10:50

"id be totally happy for JM to stay forever and never put another penny in myself."/quote brendywendy
"we're ticking along quite nicely"/ quote Zammo.

Whilst it is undeniable that the last decade or so has been the most illustrious in RFC's history, it should not be forgotten that this success built on inward investment by the chairman.
Whilst never bankrolling things on the scale of a Jack Hayward, the old boy was prepared to fund the acquisitions of the like of Murty, Sidwell, Lita, Asaba, etc. when the business was heavily losing money.
He moaned about it, but when push came to shove, he acted.
These steady years of building were supplemented by some inspired "bargain basement" spots by the coaching staff, who when sold on, have helped to keep the club afloat. God only knows what state the club would be in had we done a Wolves, and waited for these cheap punts to establish their reputations, and then had to shell out a few million for them.
It's a kind of Charlie Austin scenario, subtitute his name for Doyle, and a what, 80 000 euro player becomes touted instead as £1.5M. Had we paid this sort of money each for Doyle, Shorey, SHunt, Kitson, we'd need to find another Gylfi a bit sharpish, so we can sell him and avoid the broker's men.
For what it's worth, I believe that we already have a new chairman. The fire in his belly went out a few years ago, and he is no longer prepared to continue in the same vein that got the club to this level in the first place. (his decision, no criticism)
Some of you out there think that we are doing ok with the new austerity regime: I'm of the opinion that the effects of it have not yet kicked in, we had parachute payments, then a gem like Gylfi to capitalise. The business is still not breaking even, and attendances are dwindling. We have done well in buying cheap, and selling for millions. I think it's naive to expect that to continue ad infinitum. I hope I'm wrong, because something will have to "give" to protect the balance sheet in future, JM's not going to do it, so that only leaves the sale of saleable playing assets, and the use of cheaper replacements.
This can only lead to a diminution of playing quality, and the obvious consequences.
To use a hackneyed managerial phrase, JM has taken the club as far as he can. He's presided over the rise, but I doubt that he will want to be presiding over the fall.

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by dean horrix legend » 26 Jan 2011 11:01

under the tin "id be totally happy for JM to stay forever and never put another penny in myself."/quote brendywendy
"we're ticking along quite nicely"/ quote Zammo.

Whilst it is undeniable that the last decade or so has been the most illustrious in RFC's history, it should not be forgotten that this success built on inward investment by the chairman.
Whilst never bankrolling things on the scale of a Jack Hayward, the old boy was prepared to fund the acquisitions of the like of Murty, Sidwell, Lita, Asaba, etc. when the business was heavily losing money.
He moaned about it, but when push came to shove, he acted.
These steady years of building were supplemented by some inspired "bargain basement" spots by the coaching staff, who when sold on, have helped to keep the club afloat. God only knows what state the club would be in had we done a Wolves, and waited for these cheap punts to establish their reputations, and then had to shell out a few million for them.
It's a kind of Charlie Austin scenario, subtitute his name for Doyle, and a what, 80 000 euro player becomes touted instead as £1.5M. Had we paid this sort of money each for Doyle, Shorey, SHunt, Kitson, we'd need to find another Gylfi a bit sharpish, so we can sell him and avoid the broker's men.
For what it's worth, I believe that we already have a new chairman. The fire in his belly went out a few years ago, and he is no longer prepared to continue in the same vein that got the club to this level in the first place. (his decision, no criticism)
Some of you out there think that we are doing ok with the new austerity regime: I'm of the opinion that the effects of it have not yet kicked in, we had parachute payments, then a gem like Gylfi to capitalise. The business is still not breaking even, and attendances are dwindling. We have done well in buying cheap, and selling for millions. I think it's naive to expect that to continue ad infinitum. I hope I'm wrong, because something will have to "give" to protect the balance sheet in future, JM's not going to do it, so that only leaves the sale of saleable playing assets, and the use of cheaper replacements.
This can only lead to a diminution of playing quality, and the obvious consequences.
To use a hackneyed managerial phrase, JM has taken the club as far as he can. He's presided over the rise, but I doubt that he will want to be presiding over the fall.


Well said, couldn't agree more.

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by Pat Butchers Ring » 23 Feb 2011 20:58

But what you fail to acknowledge is that self sufficiency and organic growth will become the norm. Days of Rich Sugar daddy's are numbered because there simply aren't many out there that want to spend millions of pounds for little return. Football clubs have to fall in line with every other business on the planet and stop spending beyond there means

It's been stated on here before that unless there is someone that wants to have there little fantasy football plaything (would we want that) or a Reading born multi millionaire (havent we already got one) then we aren't going to be bought any time soon.

Football is a business and needs to be run as such. Bring in a regulation authority that prevents the mis management of football finances then we can get back to clubs operating on an even keel and players demanding stupid sums of money that they are not entitled too.


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Re: Potential Takeover??

by under the tin » 24 Feb 2011 09:03

I personally doubt that self sufficiency is possible at this level.
All the time that 3 clubs will have the dice loaded for them, with parachute money, this militates against it.
Also we are currently playing at a level where sizeable provincial clubs are, with big catchments, big expectations.
Those supporter aspirations will always drive the ambitions of those clubs, who all know that they are but one promotion away from the big time.

Your points about the fiscal madness that infests pro football are inarguable. In an ideal world, it would be a level playing field.
Trouble is, it ain't an ideal world.

I suppose the main point I was trying to make in my previous post (which wasn't a "Madejski out" rant) was that we have got this far up the league ladder as a direct result of steady inward investment by JM. We wouldn't be at this level without it.
Seems to me that without a level of continued investment, we will struggle to compete against other clubs still doing it "the old fashioned way".

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by roadrunner » 24 Feb 2011 14:16

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It's been stated on here before that unless there is someone that wants to have there little fantasy football plaything (would we want that) or a Reading born multi millionaire (havent we already got one) then we aren't going to be bought any time soon.


No. He was born in Stoke.

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by SpaceCruiser » 24 Feb 2011 23:13

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It's been stated on here before that unless there is someone that wants to have there little fantasy football plaything (would we want that) or a Reading born multi millionaire (havent we already got one) then we aren't going to be bought any time soon.


No. He was born in Stoke.


What difference does it make if he grew up and still lives/appears in Reading?

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by prostak » 24 Feb 2011 23:24

Does he even live in Berks? Thought he was just over the border.


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Re: Potential Takeover??

by Barry the bird boggler » 25 Feb 2011 08:08

prostak Does he even live in Berks? Thought he was just over the border.


SJM lives in Upper Basildon I believe and that is south of the Thames so definitely in Berkshire.

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by Royal With Cheese » 09 Mar 2011 13:30

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It's been stated on here before that unless there is someone that wants to have there little fantasy football plaything (would we want that) or a Reading born multi millionaire (havent we already got one) then we aren't going to be bought any time soon.


No. He was born in Stoke.


What difference does it make if he grew up and still lives/appears in Reading?

It makes a difference if you call him a Reading born multi millionaire which he clearly isn't

I also hear he comes from Polish/FRENCH desendency.

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by roadrunner » 09 Mar 2011 15:53

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It's been stated on here before that unless there is someone that wants to have there little fantasy football plaything (would we want that) or a Reading born multi millionaire (havent we already got one) then we aren't going to be bought any time soon.


No. He was born in Stoke.


What difference does it make if he grew up and still lives/appears in Reading?


WTF? I merely pointed out SJM was not a Reading born millionaire.

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by Y21_Royal » 18 Mar 2011 22:08

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SpaceCruiser What difference does it make if he grew up and still lives/appears in Reading?

It makes a difference if you call him a Reading born multi millionaire which he clearly isn't

I also hear he comes from Polish/FRENCH desendency.


Not sure there's any Polish in him tbf


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Re: Potential Takeover??

by roadrunner » 18 Mar 2011 23:55

John Madejski was actally born Robert John Hurst. He later took his step fathers surname (Madejski) who was Polish.

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by NR_Royal » 19 Mar 2011 01:33

I'll be a Reading-born millionaire after tonights Euromillions... :wink:

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by Barry the bird boggler » 19 Mar 2011 12:05

JM was born in Stoke in 1941 (he's going to be 70 next month) and was moved, while still a baby, to a children's home in Reading (his mother's home town). He was soon reunited with his mother and family when she later married a polish airman.

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by Terminal Boardom » 21 Mar 2011 20:35

Barry the bird boggler JM was born in Stoke in 1941 (he's going to be 70 next month) and was moved, while still a baby, to a children's home in Reading (his mother's home town). He was soon reunited with his mother and family when she later married a polish airman.


So why isn't his name John Sheen?

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 22 Mar 2011 11:39

we could be playing in the Mr Sheen Stadium.

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by Z175 » 22 Mar 2011 18:11

NR_Royal I'll be a Reading-born millionaire after tonights Euromillions... :wink:

unlucky.

heres an idea.

The next jackpot is £118m.

However there are only some 75m combinations.
As tickets are £2 an investment of £75m should secure 50% of the tickets.

The total prize pot is £150m. Therefore you should win roughly an extra £15m of half of the £30m of other prizes.

I make it out to be risking £50m to win £130m at odds of 50-50.

SJM should totally do this. The £80m profits could be split 50-50 between Mr Mad and RFC.

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Re: Potential Takeover??

by No Hoops » 22 Mar 2011 19:37

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NR_Royal I'll be a Reading-born millionaire after tonights Euromillions... :wink:

unlucky.

heres an idea.

The next jackpot is £118m.

However there are only some 75m combinations.
As tickets are £2 an investment of £75m should secure 50% of the tickets.

The total prize pot is £150m. Therefore you should win roughly an extra £15m of half of the £30m of other prizes.

I make it out to be risking £50m to win £130m at odds of 50-50.

SJM should totally do this. The £80m profits could be split 50-50 between Mr Mad and RFC.


All changes whan I get the jackpot ticket though

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