Value on Long's Head?

[Victor Meldrew]

Plenty of times the excuse was made for Doyle when he wasn't scoring that he was playing whilst not fully fit; it seems accepted that Long has been playing with injuries, niggles and strains during the last few months yet it hasn't stopped him scoring, and, even with these knocks, I'd still back Long to beat a fully fit Doyle over any sprint distance.

Shane has had a great half-season in the Championship as have Graham at Watford,Morison at Millwall and Holt at Norwich plus Boothroyd before his injuries but IMHO none are worth more than £3million.

Are you serious

Every top flight club is scouring the league below for those ready to make that step up and any strikers deemed good enough to play where a relegated team can get £30m+ in TV money will be worth an absolute minimum of twice your figure.

Surely the price we got for Siggy should put things into some kind of context for you.

Right now, Long's form places him at or very near the top of a select short list.

Have a look at Snowball's list and tell me how many of those were bought from lower league clubs.
Yes they look at players but Doyle is one of the very few that came from a lower division club and that after having proved himself at that level before.
I will be amazed at any from our division going for £6 million and I think you will find my £3million tops may even prove to be excessive.
Gylfi was a player who scored something like 20 goals in his first season from midfield at the tender age of 20 and is clearly a better long term prospect than Long.

[NR_Royal]

Just came across this, made me chuckle: http://community.sigames.com/showthread ... **********

[Mr Angry]

Have a look at Snowball's list and tell me how many of those were bought from lower league clubs.
Yes they look at players but Doyle is one of the very few that came from a lower division club and that after having proved himself at that level before.
I will be amazed at any from our division going for £6 million and I think you will find my £3million tops may even prove to be excessive.
Gylfi was a player who scored something like 20 goals in his first season from midfield at the tender age of 20 and is clearly a better long term prospect than Long.

Conor Wickham is being quoted at £10M, and someone from the fake hoops may well go for more than that (though to be fair, he came from Spurs originally).

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

....and Connor Wickham came from Reading originally ..... ....


Connor Wickham (born 31 March 1993) is an English footballer who plays for Ipswich Town as a striker.

He played youth football at Reading before being released and moving to Ipswich Town in 2006 where he continued in the youth structure. He made his full professional debut for the club in April 2009. He has also played at various levels of international football, scoring the winning goal in the 2010 UEFA European Under-17 Football Championship Final.

Despite his age, Wickham has already won a number of awards, both personally and within the England national youth set-up


...someone saw fit to allow him through the net .........

[KC Royal]

Ian said that Doyle had done it once at Prem level.

Football has changed, once most teams had a 20 a season scorer, if wolves go down Doyle will be back in the Prem next season IMHO, and will sell for more than what we will get for Long if we do not go up.

Precisely, in his two championship seasons Doyle got 15+ goals both times. One of them being his first season in football at a decent level. He also got 10+ in the Premier League.

He may have had a few seasons of scoring less, in the Premier League, but that's generally been in teams struggling to create chances and in trouble.

And i would say that his tally for last season put him at or close to his best. 9 goals for a struggling team where he played predominantly as a lone striker is impressive.

As far as Long is concerned i would be disappointed if we sold him for less than 4m, but not expecting much more than 5m at the absolute most. The difference between him and the Sig is that he's only got a year left on his deal whereas the Sig had only recently signed a 3 yr deal when he left.

[Royal Rother]

I think you will find my £3million tops may even prove to be excessive.

We paid £2m for Matt Mills.

[Snowball]

....and Connor Wickham came from Reading originally ..... ....




He played youth football at Reading before being released and moving to Ipswich Town in 2006

Sack the board!

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

....and Connor Wickham came from Reading originally ..... ....




He played youth football at Reading before being released and moving to Ipswich Town in 2006

Sack the board!

in fairness to the board (and this is a rarity for me)...I think his dad was in the forces and was relocated over to Suffolk/Norfolk area so given his age he obviously left ....but yeah to hell with it...sack the board......chairman could of offered the lad a room at his penthouse/mansion!!!...ikes

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

I think you will find my £3million tops may even prove to be excessive.

We paid £2m for Matt Mills.

Not yet we haven't.

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

£800k with add-ons

[Victor Meldrew]

Have a look at Snowball's list and tell me how many of those were bought from lower league clubs.
Yes they look at players but Doyle is one of the very few that came from a lower division club and that after having proved himself at that level before.
I will be amazed at any from our division going for £6 million and I think you will find my £3million tops may even prove to be excessive.
Gylfi was a player who scored something like 20 goals in his first season from midfield at the tender age of 20 and is clearly a better long term prospect than Long.

Conor Wickham is being quoted at £10M, and someone from the fake hoops may well go for more than that (though to be fair, he came from Spurs originally).

I'll give you Wickham who is just 18 and like Walcott before him (age 16?) had massive potential and was not up amongst the top scorers at this level.
Taraabt will be a Premiership player already in a couple of weeks' time.

[Woodcote Royal]

Have a look at Snowball's list and tell me how many of those were bought from lower league clubs.
Yes they look at players but Doyle is one of the very few that came from a lower division club and that after having proved himself at that level before.
I will be amazed at any from our division going for £6 million and I think you will find my £3million tops may even prove to be excessive.
Gylfi was a player who scored something like 20 goals in his first season from midfield at the tender age of 20 and is clearly a better long term prospect than Long.

I know this will fall on the deaf ears of those who see our Chairman as nothing more than a money grabbing opportunist but, rest assured, if the best offer for Long does not exceed £3m he won't be going anywhere............................. anyone who believes he's good enough will be prepared to pay a lot more just as someone paid much more for an Icelander with a fraction of the experience and, as already mentioned, someone will fork out far more for Wickham.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

I would suggest that BM will be the one to convince JM that Long is more valuable to RFC than £3m, we know that Long and BM are close. Then again if we are at this level and a lower Prem team come in for Long at £3m, should we stand in his way?

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

£3m is the amount Wolves, paid for that inept SHunt.....Shane Long is a much bigger prospect than gypsy will ever be,and given his age, that he not only performs well at club level, but is now a recognised international who will soon be replacing Keane in the national team, his value has to reflect that ....£5m would be my starting price....and not get drawn into teams offering a lesser amount with add-ons...

....if a team want him enough, and im sure there are plenty of prem teams that see his potential, then they will eventually pay the right price ......Liverpool did it with Carroll

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Not sure Carroll is worth £35mill.

Hunt left us for £3.5m, and Wolves tried to take him from Hull the following Window for £5m, when Hull were relegated they took him for £3m though he was still injured. Regardless of cost it looks likely that Hunt will suffer his third Prem relegation.

[loyalroyal4life]

£4m plus add ons

£5m if he can get past 25 goal barrier

[Hoop Blah]

Long's value will already be known to the club, Long, his agent and therefore any club with a serious interest in buying him. That value would, if recent history is anything to go by, have been agreed back in November when he signed his new contract.

With that in mind I can't see him going for more the £4m, may £5m if the club really put their foot down during the contract talks. I think that's a reasonable price in todays market as he's still a little unproven despite his amazing form AND goalscoring record over the last 3 or 4 months.

Wickham is an interesting comparison, but as others have said the English factor adds a lot to a players value for some reason and at 17/18 he is showing a lot of potential that he's possibly the next big thing in English football. Long is decent and is playing out of his skin, but nobody would really think (or pay on the potential) that he's going to be the asset that Wickham may become. Wickhams price will reflect that potential, be it a perceived or realistic potential.

[Top Flight]

Well Andy Johnson was worth £11Million when he was at Championship Palace.
Bent was worth £18 million when he was at Championship Charlton.

I think Long has to be valued at £11 or £12 million.

He is an explosive, powerful player who is causing havoc at the moment in this division. His pace and strength are too much for Championship defenders.

His direct, penetrating play is resulting in him scoring lots of goals as well. A part of his game that is better than Doyle's. Doyle spent too much time in the channels. Long, being so much more direct means he is getting a lot of goals. He has a great strike rate. A better strike rate than Doyle achieved in the Championship.

[Top Flight]

£4 or £5 million would be an absolute steal for someone like Long. That would be unacceptable daylight robbery in my opinion. If he went for that kind of money I would be gutted.

Peterborough would want in the order of about £2 or £3 million for Makail-Smith and Long is way way better than him.

£4 or £5milion puts Long in the price range of every Premier League club. And to be honest Long is a player that should only be affordable for the top 10 in the country.

[brendywendy]

....and Connor Wickham came from Reading originally ..... ....


Connor Wickham (born 31 March 1993) is an English footballer who plays for Ipswich Town as a striker.

He played youth football at Reading before being released and moving to Ipswich Town in 2006 where he continued in the youth structure. He made his full professional debut for the club in April 2009. He has also played at various levels of international football, scoring the winning goal in the 2010 UEFA European Under-17 Football Championship Final.

Despite his age, Wickham has already won a number of awards, both personally and within the England national youth set-up


...someone saw fit to allow him through the net .........

his family moved to the ipswich area, and decided to take their child with them for christ sake.
i wish our fans would stop looking for the smallest thing with which to beat our wonderful club with