Shane Long

[Kitson12]

I love it how papers and websites use the quote as if Madejski was being serious when he said 20million. It was obvious he was joking, only showing how much he means to the club!

[Snowball]

I love it how papers and websites use the quote as if Madejski was being serious when he said 20million. It was obvious he was joking, only showing how much he means to the club!

and how some mongs then start saying Madejski is drunk etc

[super darren caskey]

I love it how papers and websites use the quote as if Madejski was being serious when he said 20million. It was obvious he was joking, only showing how much he means to the club!

and how some mongs then start saying Madejski is drunk etc

oxf*rd off stat twat

[Handsome Man]

I love it how papers and websites use the quote as if Madejski was being serious when he said 20million. It was obvious he was joking, only showing how much he means to the club!

He'll be described as £20-million-rated Shane Long soon.

[royalsteve]

It may well be that after what we got for certain other players, and what is seen as their value now, Siggy well over £10m, Doyle similar. that the club have changed tack and gone for a different approach, perhaps a decent wage with no release clause, but a bonus on leaving of say 10% of the fee.

also i guess its helpded that sigursson, despite only playing half a season in the bundesliga and only about 10 games, has scored 10 goals for hoffenheim and was their player of season too

[royalsteve]

SHANE, FOR THE WHOLE SEASON WAS



104 shots in about 50 appearances


57 On Target
25 Goals
46 Off target
01 Hit Woodwork

So 55% of all his shots are on target.

Of shots on target 44% become goals. That is LETHAL

Almost 25% of his shots result in goals



Doyle's Championship figures were

58% on target (marginally better) of which 39% were goals (worse)

22.8% of all shots became goals (worse)


So Shane, this season got his 25 goals by being better than Doyle in his two "brilliant" seasons 2005-6 and 2008-9.


If he was "crap" as you say, then to get these figures for the season he must have been better than Messi from game 16 onwards.

now do the stat for the season since december and you will see he is a top player....even better stats

[royalsteve]

Not as lethal as Danny Graham.


Oh and if you are using the official sites stats then you need to change Long's number of goals to 23, which makes him only marginally more lethal than Grant Holt.

And that Adel Taarabt is useless.

long scored more goals than him since Jan......if Long had start like he ended he would have got over 40 goals

[royalsteve]

ITV.com

1 Sinclair Swansea City 19 5 0 3 27 (9 pen)

2 Graham Watford 23 3 0 0 26 (1 pen)

3 Long Reading 21 2 0 2 25 (7 pen)

4 Holt Norwich City 21 2 0 0 23 (3 pen)

To be fair, 1 pen shows what a sensational season Graham had for a team which never challenged the scorers.

true but long creates alot of goal, graham doesnt, he's more of a poacher......not a bad thing though....we could have done with him though to take the pressure off long

[bigmike]

Not as lethal as Danny Graham.


Oh and if you are using the official sites stats then you need to change Long's number of goals to 23, which makes him only marginally more lethal than Grant Holt.

And that Adel Taarabt is useless.

long scored more goals than him since Jan......if Long had start like he ended he would have got over 40 goals

Just think if Long had done his bit at the start of the season we may well have been promoted instead of Norwich/QPR

[Franchise FC]

Just think if Long had done his bit at the start of the season we may well have been promoted instead of Norwich/QPR

If Cardiff hadn't (wrongly) been awarded a goal at the Madhouse
If Cardiff hadn't been given 4 extra minutes to equalise
If Jem's shot had been two inches to the left
If Holt hadn't scored two minutes after time was up
If Jimmy hadn't been injured for so long at a crucial time
If ..... if ...... if ..........
Every team will have some of these

If Long had started the season the way he finished he may have been sold in January and denied us the excitement of the final ten weeks of the season.

Kipling would've had a field day.

[Snowball]

"Official Sites"?

Just went to the Actim Index to check Danny Graham's assists and found

Either it's 23 or 25, but where do they get 24 from?



TOP SCORERS

1 Shane Long Reading 24
2 Danny Graham Watford 23
3 Scott Sinclair Swansea City 22
4 Grant Holt Norwich City 21
5 Luciano Becchio Leeds United 19
Max-Alain Gradel Leeds United 19
Adel Taarabt Queens Park Rangers 19
8 Jay Bothroyd Cardiff City 18
9 Steve Morison Millwall 15
Billy Sharp Doncaster Rovers 15
Andy King Leicester City 15
12 Jay Rodriguez Burnley 14
13 Heidar Helguson Queens Park Rangers 13
Kris Commons Derby County 13
David Nugent Portsmouth 13
Simeon Jackson Norwich City 13
Brett Pitman Bristol City 13
Lewis McGugan Nottingham Forest 13
19 Kris Boyd Nottingham Forest 12
Marlon King Coventry City 12
Iain Hume Preston North End 12
Leroy Lita Middlesbrough 12
Marvin Sordell Watford 12
24 Chris Iwelumo Burnley 11
Ian Harte Reading 11

[Snowball]

ITV.com

1 Sinclair Swansea City 19 5 0 3 27 (9 pen)

2 Graham Watford 23 3 0 0 26 (1 pen)

3 Long Reading 21 2 0 2 25 (7 pen)

4 Holt Norwich City 21 2 0 0 23 (3 pen)

To be fair, 1 pen shows what a sensational season Graham had for a team which never challenged the scorers.

true but long creates alot of goal, graham doesnt, he's more of a poacher......not a bad thing though....we could have done with him though to take the pressure off long

Sorry, Royal Steve, but both Graham and Long had 10 assists this season
both joint 6th place. which is very, very good considering the goals they also scored.

[Snowball]

http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D1/leadsc.html

Has Sinclair top, Long with 25.


Yahoo/Eurosport has (Championship Only, no cups)

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/ ... orers.html

1 Shane Long 23 Reading
1 Danny Graham 23 Watford
3 Scott Sinclair 22 Swansea City
4 Grant Holt 21 Norwich City

Actim Index has

1 Shane Long 24
2 Danny Graham 23

[Snowball]

Not as lethal as Danny Graham.


Oh and if you are using the official sites stats then you need to change Long's number of goals to 23, which makes him only marginally more lethal than Grant Holt.

And that Adel Taarabt is useless.

long scored more goals than him since Jan......if Long had start like he ended he would have got over 40 goals

Graham got 4 goals in the first two games of the season, and won the top-scorer spot by two goals...

[mr_number]

This has probably been mentioned elsewhere on this thread or previous one but was a release clause added when his contract was re-negotiated?

Everyone is assuming this, but I'm not too sure....

Brian said this a few days ago, which rather implies there ISN'T a release clause......

McDermott told BBC Berkshire: "If a Premier League club comes in and we decide the deal is right and Shane wants to go there's nothing we can do".

Doesn't the club generally have a rule of informing players if an offer comes in? I'd have thought that it's possible that with the (what appears to be decent) relationship between the club and Shane, they've just said that they'll let him go if he wants to and the offer is decent. We're not the kind of club that keeps players if they don't want to play here...

[Mr Angry]

This has probably been mentioned elsewhere on this thread or previous one but was a release clause added when his contract was re-negotiated?

Everyone is assuming this, but I'm not too sure....

Brian said this a few days ago, which rather implies there ISN'T a release clause......

McDermott told BBC Berkshire: "If a Premier League club comes in and we decide the deal is right and Shane wants to go there's nothing we can do".

Doesn't the club generally have a rule of informing players if an offer comes in? I'd have thought that it's possible that with the (what appears to be decent) relationship between the club and Shane, they've just said that they'll let him go if he wants to and the offer is decent. We're not the kind of club that keeps players if they don't want to play here...

Don't disagree with that (and I believe RFC would behave that way with ANY player) but thats a different thing to whats been assumed - namely, that there is a release clause, where the club has to accept an offer for a player if a transfer fee figure, agreed with the player and inserted into his contract, is met by another team.

Brian's quote implies thats not the case.

[Terminal Boardom]

SHANE, FOR THE WHOLE SEASON WAS



104 shots in about 50 appearances


57 On Target
25 Goals
46 Off target
01 Hit Woodwork

So 55% of all his shots are on target.

Of shots on target 44% become goals. That is LETHAL

Almost 25% of his shots result in goals



Doyle's Championship figures were

58% on target (marginally better) of which 39% were goals (worse)

22.8% of all shots became goals (worse)


So Shane, this season got his 25 goals by being better than Doyle in his two "brilliant" seasons 2005-6 and 2008-9.


If he was "crap" as you say, then to get these figures for the season he must have been better than Messi from game 16 onwards.

Not exactly comparing like with like is it? You are comparing Kevin Doyle's first season with us against a player who signed at the same time. Just an observation...

[Snowball]

SHANE, FOR THE WHOLE SEASON WAS



104 shots in about 50 appearances


57 On Target
25 Goals
46 Off target
01 Hit Woodwork

So 55% of all his shots are on target.

Of shots on target 44% become goals. That is LETHAL

Almost 25% of his shots result in goals



Doyle's Championship figures were

58% on target (marginally better) of which 39% were goals (worse)

22.8% of all shots became goals (worse)




So Shane, this season got his 25 goals by being better than Doyle in his two "brilliant" seasons 2005-6 and 2008-9.


If he was "crap" as you say, then to get these figures for the season he must have been better than Messi from game 16 onwards.

Not exactly comparing like with like is it? You are comparing Kevin Doyle's first season with us against a player who signed at the same time. Just an observation...

Actually I'm comparing ALL Kevin Doyle's Championship minutes/goals
with ALL Shane's Championship minutes/goals.

So Doyle (b. 18 Sept 83) was 2005-6 AND 2008-9 (when he was 24 Years 11 months through to 25 Years 8 months)

I've included Shane's "bit-part" season (a whole 555 minutes) 2005-06 when he was 18-19, a baby (b 22 Jan 1987)


Shane is today 24 Years 4 months. If he was to play for RFC in 2011-12 he'd be 24 Years 7 months at the start of the season,
4 months younger than Kevin Doyle in his last RFC season.

That's why I think he's a better player/better prospect. He's got 25 + 3 goals in a season a full 17-18 months before KD

[brendywendy]

I love it how papers and websites use the quote as if Madejski was being serious when he said 20million. It was obvious he was joking, only showing how much he means to the club!

wasnt the original quote a comparison with carroll, and him saying if carrolls worth 35m then shane must be worth at least 20m etc?

[mr_number]

Don't disagree with that (and I believe RFC would behave that way with ANY player) but thats a different thing to whats been assumed - namely, that there is a release clause, where the club has to accept an offer for a player if a transfer fee figure, agreed with the player and inserted into his contract, is met by another team.

Brian's quote implies thats not the case.

Yeah, I agree. I was just trying to suggest (possibly optimistically) that because we have a pretty tight relationship with the player, they might not have written it into the contract, but just had a verbal agreement. But that probably is being v optimistic.