RUMOUR - Noel Hunt

[Sarah Star]

Surely, if this is at the owner's discretion, all he has to do is recall his loans and walk away leaving the club and the fans to pick up the pieces.

[Svlad Cjelli]

Surely, if this is at the owner's discretion, all he has to do is recall his loans and walk away leaving the club and the fans to pick up the pieces.

Yes, but what he'd likely do is force the club under, so he'd be unlikely to do that in practice because he'd be vilified - and more importantly not get all of his money back because a club's not likely to have the full amount of the debts available to take.

[Sarah Star]

I just think if you're going to put punishments into the rules governing what clubs can spend, then you'd do better punishing the owners than the clubs. They're the ones who make the decisions, decide on the ethos of the club, how it's run etc etc... not that turkeys are ever going to vote for Christmas if they have a say in it.

[winchester_royal]

If you hadn't noticed, 10 goals is higher than some teams top scorers. AND he was out/didn't play half of the season, and you call him average?

Yes.

[brendywendy]

1 in 3 isnt average, its good.
hes a good player.

[Svlad Cjelli]

I just think if you're going to put punishments into the rules governing what clubs can spend, then you'd do better punishing the owners than the clubs. They're the ones who make the decisions, decide on the ethos of the club, how it's run etc etc... not that turkeys are ever going to vote for Christmas if they have a say in it.

The problem with the asset strippers is that they're long gone before the damage they've done often becomes apparent. So all you have left to punish is the club.

[winchester_royal]

1 in 3 isnt average, its good.
hes a good player.

It's a matter of opinion. Personally I think that's a pretty average return, especially when he doesn't offer much else.

[Sarah Star]

I just think if you're going to put punishments into the rules governing what clubs can spend, then you'd do better punishing the owners than the clubs. They're the ones who make the decisions, decide on the ethos of the club, how it's run etc etc... not that turkeys are ever going to vote for Christmas if they have a say in it.

The problem with the asset strippers is that they're long gone before the damage they've done often becomes apparent. So all you have left to punish is the club.

Which is why the rules should protect the club and the fans before that happens and make it impossible.

[Vision]

1 in 3 isnt average, its good.
hes a good player.

It's a matter of opinion. Personally I think that's a pretty average return, especially when he doesn't offer much else.

I've said it before and it may merely be coincidental but Hunt playing alongside Doyle was the last time he scored consistently and when Hunt got injured the goals dried up. Equally until Hunt came back playing regularly alongside Long this season he'd score only once in open play in over a third of the season.

Of course there were other factors involved but I just have a feeling that Hunt brings a lot more than people seem to think.

[brendywendy]

1 in 3 isnt average, its good.
hes a good player.

It's a matter of opinion. Personally I think that's a pretty average return, especially when he doesn't offer much else.

no, the avereageness of a strikers goal scoring record is a matter of cold hard facts.

hunt is above average for this league, let alone across proffessional football. therefore he is better than average.

[winchester_royal]

1 in 3 isnt average, its good.
hes a good player.

It's a matter of opinion. Personally I think that's a pretty average return, especially when he doesn't offer much else.

no, the avereageness of a strikers goal scoring record is a matter of cold hard facts.

hunt is above average for this league, let alone across proffessional football. therefore he is better than average.

Football is never just about hard facts. That's a snowball-esque blinkered view.

[brendywendy]

not hen specifically talking about the goal scoring record of a striker as being average.

his scoring frequency at this level, and the average goal scorers freuncy are both cold hard facts, regardless

[winchester_royal]

not hen specifically talking about the goal scoring record of a striker as being average.

his scoring frequency at this level, and the average goal scorers freuncy are both cold hard facts, regardless

I wasn't talking about his scoring record, I was talking about him.

[Ian Royal]

Noel Hunt has an excellent scoring record. However he is not particularly outstanding apart from that.

Are you both happy with that Brenders, winch?

[winchester_royal]

Noel Hunt has an excellent scoring record. However he is not particularly outstanding apart from that.

Are you both happy with that Brenders, winch?

I have a slight issue with 'excellent', for me, if Hunt played every single game next year and only scored 15 I wouldn't call that excellent.

But yes, that's probably a fair statement.

[urz13]

Noel Hunt has an excellent scoring record. However he is not particularly outstanding apart from that.

Are you both happy with that Brenders, winch?

I have a slight issue with 'excellent', for me, if Hunt played every single game next year and only scored 15 I wouldn't call that excellent.

But yes, that's probably a fair statement.

But surely youd at least call it 'very good'?

[Ian Royal]

Noel Hunt has an excellent scoring record. However he is not particularly outstanding apart from that.

Are you both happy with that Brenders, winch?

I have a slight issue with 'excellent', for me, if Hunt played every single game next year and only scored 15 I wouldn't call that excellent.

But yes, that's probably a fair statement.

Isn't his Reading Career Goals at about 1 in 3? (EDIT: 1 in 2.2 for starts, 3.6 for aps) That's certainly very good. Maybe excellent is a bit strong but then he's more of a support striker than a main striker IMO. You can't really expect better than 1 in 3 IMO. Anyone who beats that significantly has a simply superb record.

Kitson's, for example is verging on phenominal, even including his disappointing loan spell. According to soccerbase it's 62 goals in 121 starts and 38 subs. or 1 goal every 2 starts / 1 goal every 2.5 appearances.

[winchester_royal]

Noel Hunt has an excellent scoring record. However he is not particularly outstanding apart from that.

Are you both happy with that Brenders, winch?

I have a slight issue with 'excellent', for me, if Hunt played every single game next year and only scored 15 I wouldn't call that excellent.

But yes, that's probably a fair statement.

But surely youd at least call it 'very good'?

I'd say it was good yes. I just don't think as an all round player he is particularly special.

By no means am I desperate to get rid of him because i do think he is useful, but if we got a decent offer I'd be happy to let him go, as I think there are better players out there for similar money.

[fester_royal]

1 in 3 isnt average, its good.
hes a good player.

It's a matter of opinion. Personally I think that's a pretty average return, especially when he doesn't offer much else.

I have to disagree. He's no prolific striker granted but his work rate is second to non, he chases countless lost balls and very rarely gives a cb any time to think often forcing errors. I agree with others saying it's no coincidence Doyle n long started scoring more when he's around. They were left to do their thing while he occupied the CB's

[Snowball]

Noel Hunt has an excellent scoring record. However he is not particularly outstanding apart from that.

You're wrong again, Ian. Hunt made Doyle better and makes Long better.
If you add goals to assists he is better than both of them per minute played

We already know: 4,897 Minutes 25 Goals = a goal every 195 minutes. VERY good striking

But Hunt has also had 14 assists in the same minutes

That's an assist or goal every 125 minutes of play.


More assists than Doyle in their season together 13+6 =19 goals/assists in 2204 minutes (one every 116 minutes)

Compared with 19+5 = 24 assists for Doyle in 3,480 minutes (one every 145 minutes)



A Goal or Assist every 125 minutes = HUNT, RFC Career
A Goal or Assist every 131 minutes = DOYLE 2005-06
A Goal or Assist every 136 minutes = LONG 2009-11 (In Shane's last two seasons he has scored 34 goals and had 14 assists (48) in 6,530 Minutes, one every 136 minutes)
A Goal or Assist every 137 minutes = DOYLE RFC Career (Championship Seasons)
A Goal or Assist every 145 minutes = DOYLE 2008-09