Summer transfer policy

[brendywendy]

if that was what youd argued youd have a point. but it wasnt, so you dont


you said that 5 million minus 2 million = weve made a profit on him.
i say that you can't say that because you arent taking into account his wages, (millions over the term of his contract) and coaching cost etc.

you sir can bleat on as much as you like. but your statement makes no sense.

By your own estimation Mills would have been on 12k a week tops, circa £600k a year. Therefore his wages over two years would have been £1.2m. If we're spending £1.8m to coach a single player for two years, then no wonder we're running a deficit.

and the fact remains that your statement of 5 million minus two million equals 3 million isnt true. 5-2(+ 1.2+misc. Coaching costs)equals probable profit x may be.but thats not what i argued against.

[zummerset]

What I don't get is ...Who wants to shag Agent Balti's missus and can we have some pics of the lovely lady?

[Avon Royal]

if that was what youd argued youd have a point. but it wasnt, so you dont


you said that 5 million minus 2 million = weve made a profit on him.
i say that you can't say that because you arent taking into account his wages, (millions over the term of his contract) and coaching cost etc.

you sir can bleat on as much as you like. but your statement makes no sense.

By your own estimation Mills would have been on 12k a week tops, circa £600k a year. Therefore his wages over two years would have been £1.2m. If we're spending £1.8m to coach a single player for two years, then no wonder we're running a deficit.

and the fact remains that your statement of 5 million minus two million equals 3 million isnt true. 5-2(+ 1.2+misc. Coaching costs)equals probable profit x may be.but thats not what i argued against.

To be fair, you're spending so much time towing the club line on various topics, it's no wonder you've forgotten what you're arguing about.

[brendywendy]

its toe the line.

ive not forgotten any thing
so stick your winky up your arse!(literally!)

[pea]

if that was what youd argued youd have a point. but it wasnt, so you dont


you said that 5 million minus 2 million = weve made a profit on him.
i say that you can't say that because you arent taking into account his wages, (millions over the term of his contract) and coaching cost etc.

you sir can bleat on as much as you like. but your statement makes no sense.

By your own estimation Mills would have been on 12k a week tops, circa £600k a year. Therefore his wages over two years would have been £1.2m. If we're spending £1.8m to coach a single player for two years, then no wonder we're running a deficit.

You're forgetting his expenses, the bastard fleeced us, mostly buying Nandos

[Ian Royal]

Erm, how have we reduced the wage budget?
OUT Gylfi, Rasiak, Mills, Ingimarsson, Mooney, Davies, Kelly
IN Leigertwood, Harte, Manset, Williams, a bunch youngsters
Increased Contracts: Long, McAnuff, HRK etc.

by getting shot of high earners,and replacing then with lower payed players?

I don't think we've really ditched that many big earners compared to the ones we've brought in and those we've promoted to replace the biggies though.

I can see a reduction maybe (especially with Mills gone, but we haven't replaced him yet and we will), but not a big one. Certainly until we flog a couple more of the likes of Long, Kebe, Federici etc.
I genuinely can't see how we've reduced our wage budget by more than a couple of £100k since the start of last season.

[loyalroyal4life]

Policy is simple...... make PROFIT as with any business.

I think RFC is a well run business, shrewd investments turn into long term financial gain

It works. Pity some of the dumbasses on here cannot work this out.

As a Reading fan what would you prefer - profit or promotion?

As a fan of course promotion but as a business owner myself profit everytime and thus when i turn my fan mind off can see what the club is doing

[Tamworth_Royal]

Erm, how have we reduced the wage budget?
OUT Gylfi, Rasiak, Mills, Ingimarsson, Mooney, Davies, Kelly
IN Leigertwood, Harte, Manset, Williams, a bunch youngsters
Increased Contracts: Long, McAnuff, HRK etc.

by getting shot of high earners,and replacing then with lower payed players?

I don't think we've really ditched that many big earners compared to the ones we've brought in and those we've promoted to replace the biggies though.

I can see a reduction maybe (especially with Mills gone, but we haven't replaced him yet and we will), but not a big one. Certainly until we flog a couple more of the likes of Long, Kebe, Federici etc.
I genuinely can't see how we've reduced our wage budget by more than a couple of £100k since the start of last season.

All of those players have had new contracts or we signed as a Championship club, what's your point dimwit ????. Madejski's point a couple of years ago we couldn't afford Premership wages and all the deadwood was sold for in some cases huge profit. So why are you going on about reducing the wages from our budget if the contracts they signed were when we were in the Championship

Fecking hell how thick are you

[Ian Royal]

Wow, you've got a stick up your arse haven't you.

Try reading the thread properly and you'll see Brendy suggesting we'd reduced the wage budget enough from last season, to reduce the running deficit by half. I don't see where the significant savings have come from this summer. Nothing to do with the Premier League hang over.

Do I get an apology for that stupid outburst?

[Tamworth_Royal]

its toe the line.

ive not forgotten any thing
so stick your winky up your arse!(literally!)

You realy are a sad twat that you've posted 35,000 posts and you are reduced to this.

You need to get off benefits and get a life

[Big Ern]

Summer Transfer Policy = SELL SELL SELL!

Followed by various press release regarding the cutting of cloth, deficit and happy with what we've got.

[Agent Balti]

What I don't get is ...Who wants to shag Agent Balti's missus and can we have some pics of the lovely lady?

I do and no.

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

...my concern is that the team virtually picks itself showing the lack of any real quality and depth in the squad ...this doesnt make for a competitive edge within the squad...be hugely surprised if BMc can repeat last seasons achievement.....

The chairmans ignorance of football will be that the squads virtually the same as last season so why cant it be equally successful ...maybe a season of mid table mediocrity will be the medicine thats required to make the chairman realise ......but agree with Big Ern.,,,,and Im sure they are dusting off the "cutting the cloth" statement as we speak .....

....should have a guess of how long from now, the now famous phrase will be be first uttered by the mighty one
...wouldnt be surprised for its first outing be by next Friday

Deep pockets and billionaire will also be muted in the coming weeks as well for sure

[Wimb]

I tend to judge our transfer policy on how the season pans out. Last years transfer policy took us to Wembley and a Cup Quarter-Final. For all we know, spending 10 million odd on players could have left us in the bottom half, It certainly didn't help Middlesbrough did it?

The WTMG!!!!! brigade will continue to bleat on until we're spending millions, but I'm happy to trust a management team and club management that has left us finishing no lower than 9th in the second tier in just under a decade.

[Hoop Blah]

What's all this I keep reading about 'Boro being big spenders but finishing so lowly?

Look at their transfers over the last couple of years and they've made a net profit, they aren't big spenders at all really.

[brendywendy]

its toe the line.

ive not forgotten any thing
so stick your winky up your arse!(literally!)

You realy are a sad twat that you've posted 35,000 posts and you are reduced to this.

You need to get off benefits and get a life

lol. You abuse me,and i, out of the goodness of my heart help you out by correcting a commonly held misconception,and by light heartedly batting back your winking emoticon,and this is the thanks i get.i wash my hands of you.

[Wimb]

What's all this I keep reading about 'Boro being big spenders but finishing so lowly?

Look at their transfers over the last couple of years and they've made a net profit, they aren't big spenders at all really.

To be fair Hoop (and not picking on you) this is one point that so many fail to grasp. Just because you don't spend on a transfer fee does not mean you're not spending lots. Look at the players Boro bought in and the wages they were likely to be on. Lita, Boyd, Miller, McDonald, McManus would all have been on significant money plus decent signing on fees. Not to mention the fact that they were still obligated to pay wages from some of their Premier League era players.

[Hoop Blah]

What's all this I keep reading about 'Boro being big spenders but finishing so lowly?

Look at their transfers over the last couple of years and they've made a net profit, they aren't big spenders at all really.

To be fair Hoop (and not picking on you) this is one point that so many fail to grasp. Just because you don't spend on a transfer fee does not mean you're not spending lots. Look at the players Boro bought in and the wages they were likely to be on. Lita, Boyd, Miller, McDonald, McManus would all have been on significant money plus decent signing on fees. Not to mention the fact that they were still obligated to pay wages from some of their Premier League era players.

Nah, I get it well enough and whilst I expect their wage bill is without doubt one of the highest in the league but it's also financed by their profits in the transfer market, so although they're still paying big money to the players the net spend of the club isn't what I'd call big spending.

It's a bit like someone saying RFC are big spenders because we paid £1-2m on Mills and however much on McAnuff and Rasiak when they were replacing players who left for bigger fees and were on bigger wages before them. I don't see that as spending big.

[sandman]

It works for now but there is a very real danger that it will stop working because others make signings that are better than the players we're left with and the rough diamonds we sign and bring through the academy. It happened after the first PL when that team reached it's pinnacle, we failed to build properly on a solid base and were left behind by the teams who finished below us.

This team has reached it's pinnacle with the Play Off final it remains to be seen what fate will befall this team.

Supposedly the League chairman have voted to introduce new financial rules for 2012/13 that should see things at least level out a bit over the course of time. If things are applied properly then Reading should be one of the least affected by the changes.

The football league are talking about adopting Michel Platini's severely flawed financial fair play rules. The club spends only what they earn which establishes the likes of West Ham, Leeds and other bigger clubs over Reading. Apply it to the Premier League a couple of years ago, as Oliver Kay said in the Times, the rules mean you won't see another Portsmouth but your unlikely to see a club like Fulham getting to the Europa cup final.

A list of the lowest season ticket prices show 13 clubs with a potential higher income from season ticket sales than Reading. If you then add the highest ST Prices from Four Four Two Magazines survey last season then everyone except Blackpool and Barnsley charge more for a season ticket than Reading.

This isn't even taking into account the money clubs with more fans than us will have coming through the door through shirt sales etc. Uefa have admitted themselves that this plan won't level the playing field and with us having to sell a player each year to even approach breaking even it doesn't look great.

[Hoop Blah]

Why should it level the playing field?

The idea is to stop clubs from getting in financial trouble that ends up costing other people their livelihoods. If clubs want to increase what they spend they have to earn more. Don't see the issue with that.