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Unhappy Chairman

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 19 Nov 2011 16:41

Would you be happy if you were JM?

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by cmonurz » 19 Nov 2011 16:47

Were I John Madejski, I'd seriously question how, with the business aptitude to sell Auto Trader at a massive profit, I couldn't see the fallacy in trying to sell a football club without investing serious money in the playing squad. Anyone with half a brain must understand that selling a Premier League club is much easier than trying to shift a Championship one, at least for the money Madejski wanted or wants for it, it is.

So yes, if I was JM I'd be unhappy. An extra £5m or so might have made the difference between shifting the club for a nice sum, or not selling it at all.

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by Libertine » 19 Nov 2011 16:49

If so he, imo, is reaping what he has sowed.

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by cmonurz » 19 Nov 2011 16:50

Libertine If so he, imo, is reaping what he has sowed.


I could have just written that really.

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by Libertine » 19 Nov 2011 16:54

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Libertine If so he, imo, is reaping what he has sowed.


I could have just written that really.


Something to be said for brevity, eh... :wink:


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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 19 Nov 2011 16:55

cmonurz Were I John Madejski, I'd seriously question how, with the business aptitude to sell Auto Trader at a massive profit,


Umm he was offered a silly amount for Autotrader, no one has offered a silly amount for RFC. His business aptitude may be why we sold a few players at a high price in the last few years. Selling high is easy if the offer is there, getting the item to sell is the harder part, and a lot of that is down to luck, as otherwise every club could do it.

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by cmonurz » 19 Nov 2011 17:01

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cmonurz Were I John Madejski, I'd seriously question how, with the business aptitude to sell Auto Trader at a massive profit,


Umm he was offered a silly amount for Autotrader, no one has offered a silly amount for RFC. His business aptitude may be why we sold a few players at a high price in the last few years. Selling high is easy if the offer is there, getting the item to sell is the harder part, and a lot of that is down to luck, as otherwise every club could do it.


His sale of Auto Trader was just an example, my point as you surely know is that Madejski is a successful businessman, yet seemingly failed or fails to grasp that this club for sell-able in the Premier League and is significantly less so now. From a business perspective, the potential ROI was far greater when we were a top flight club.

So if he's got his business hat on, I'm sure he'll be very unhappy. As a football fan and owner of the club that has kept it's nose above water and enjoyed some decent seasons since relegation, maybe he'll be happier, but I approached your question from the perspective of Madejski's stated aim to sell the club.

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by bobbybottler » 19 Nov 2011 17:17

What I'm not clear on is to whom he sold Autotrader, by which I mean that he has stated in the past that he didn't want to sell RFC to just anybody - if he had waived this requirement then I'm certain that he would have sold to Carson Yeung when he had the opportunity to do so a few years back.

As a consequence I'm not certain it's a straightforward comparison between his (presumed) success in selling AT and his apparent failure in selling Reading FC.

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by howser » 19 Nov 2011 17:17

We might have had 11 shots and most posession but we dont have any creditable Championship goalscorers, why ?? because they cost to buy and we all know that is not what Madejski will do, but yes he will be happy, we are in no way threatening to do what we done last season, we dont have the depth of squad or the ability to reach the play-offs, we have bought two 2nd division strikers and another one from non league, and you do get what you play for, its not their fault, but he will be delighted with us milling around mid table. There is no threat on the managers position, what manager with any ambition and desire to reach the top would come here, if McD left with the usual Madejski penny pinching transfer budget, I was also interested to read what fordham wrote a couple of weeks ago that we are in the lowest payers in the championship, hardly the platform to breed success on.

There is no way on gods earth that Madejski would be happy in the top league again, he was so out of his depth when we were there before.


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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by Friday's Legacy » 19 Nov 2011 17:18

we've had a couple of very serious parties interested in the club, one of which was the chinese(?) chap who bought birmingham. dodging that one was obviously a good thing, but the only reason we haven't been sold is because john madejski has out-priced us out of any sale. now we're just an average championship club with a strong infrastructure, but there are much bigger clubs than us in this league and arguably in league 1 and they wont cost what we would cost, so we wont be sold any time soon either.

any new owner coming in is very unsettling and can be very risky, but it has to happen sooner or later, john isn't a young man any more, and this club needs investment again if we are to get back to challenging at the top end of the table.

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by melonhead » 19 Nov 2011 17:37

cmonurz Were I John Madejski, I'd seriously question how, with the business aptitude to sell Auto Trader at a massive profit, I couldn't see the fallacy in trying to sell a football club without investing serious money in the playing squad. Anyone with half a brain must understand that selling a Premier League club is much easier than trying to shift a Championship one, at least for the money Madejski wanted or wants for it, it is.

So yes, if I was JM I'd be unhappy. An extra £5m or so might have made the difference between shifting the club for a nice sum, or not selling it at all.



5 million he hasnt got, cant afford, or wont invest, so its a pointless argument

and either way its nothing he can be unhappy about, since the only ine of those things he could possibly help would be his own decision

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by melonhead » 19 Nov 2011 17:39

Ideal Why this negativity?
According to the BBC we had 11 shots on goal, they had 6. If anything that statistic says we were robbed.
We had 56% possession.



11 shots on target, 18 corners, 56% possesion, 3 penaltys not given, a goal rule out for offside, and conceded a fluke
tells the whole story really

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by RoyalBlue » 19 Nov 2011 17:39

Harpers So Solid Crew Would you be happy if you were JM?


Personally I hope he's as miserable as hell - he's now reaping what he has sown and looks more likely to take the club back to League One rather than the Premier League.

Ideal Why this negativity?
According to the BBC we had 11 shots on goal, they had 6. If anything that statistic says we were robbed.
We had 56% possession.


All of the above matters f8ck all when you take into account the most important statistic of all. They scored 2 goals we scored one.

Oh, one other thing, perhaps the marketing department should be pushing a second half season ticket, rather than a half season ticket. Our continued failure to score in the first half of games is a f8cking disgrace.
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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by melonhead » 19 Nov 2011 17:40

if he had waived this requirement then I'm certain that he would have sold to Carson Yeung when he had the opportunity to do so a few years back


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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by Ian Royal » 19 Nov 2011 17:40

I'd be unhappy we just lost a game we dominated, largely thanks to a stupid piece of play from one player apparently. I'd be unhappy we're not taking our chances when we're making them.

I wouldn't be unhappy at the way the club is being run in general.

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by RoyalBlue » 19 Nov 2011 17:50

Friday's Legacy we've had a couple of very serious parties interested in the club, one of which was the chinese(?) chap who bought birmingham. dodging that one was obviously a good thing, but the only reason we haven't been sold is because john madejski has out-priced us out of any sale. now we're just an average championship club with a strong infrastructure, but there are much bigger clubs than us in this league and arguably in league 1 and they wont cost what we would cost, so we wont be sold any time soon either.

any new owner coming in is very unsettling and can be very risky, but it has to happen sooner or later, john isn't a young man any more, and this club needs investment again if we are to get back to challenging at the top end of the table.


The reason the club is not being sold is that the Chairman lacks the serious will to sell it. The expression 'where there is a will, there is a way' is absolutely true. If he wanted to sell the club he could, he would just have to drop his asking price and maybe concede on a few terms - stadium naming rights?

Interesting that when Dispatches were discussing the clubs that were targets for 'investors' RFC was not one of those named.

I would suggest he still loves being in the limelight and his best chance of this is through his involvement with the club. For those who are tempted to suggest that is an unfair comment, look at what happened at our last televised home game - who decided that he, rather than one of the soldiers, should walk the ball out to the centre circle?

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by howser » 19 Nov 2011 17:56

You are spot on there Royal he is a highlight grabber, not too surprising that his tv appearances concerning the football club have dropped of as much as the teams perfromances have.

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by FiNeRaIn » 19 Nov 2011 18:20

You don't get robbed when you never had it in the first place retards.

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by melonhead » 19 Nov 2011 18:30

FiNeRaIn You don't get robbed when you never had it in the first place retards.


tell us more , oh king of the retards



i never said we were robbed tbf

i said we were unlucky

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Re: Unhappy Chairman

by FiNeRaIn » 19 Nov 2011 18:39

I don't buy into this luck nonsense, its in your power to overcome that. Don't get a penalty? create something another way. There is a consistent pattern this season...we rarely win, thats not luck.

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