The Snowball stat thread

[Snowball]

Update after Brighton Game


Bold Figure is Minutes per Major Contribution (Goal or Assist)




1,332 Minutes 10 Major Contributions one every 132 Minutes 5 Goals 5 Assists ALF (RFC Games)
1,132 Minutes 07 Major Contributions one every 162 Minutes 1 Goals 6 Assists KEBE
1,179 Minutes 07 Major Contributions one every 168 Minutes 6 Goals 1 Assists CHURCH

1,000 Minutes 05 Major Contributions one every 200 Minutes 3 Goals 2 Assists HRK
1,121 Minutes 05 Major Contributions one every 224 Minutes 3 Goals 2 Assists HUNT

1,932 Minutes 06 Major Contributions one every 322 Minutes 3 Goals 3 Assists McAnuff
1,368 Minutes 04 Major Contributions one every 342 Minutes 1 Goals 3 Assists KARACAN

[oldebiscuit]

DROP THE PRE-MATCH HUDDLE NOW!

[Ian Royal]

gorkss and pearce >>>>kish and mills

Totally.

[Snowball]

Mind you, Matt Mills at Leicester was something else

[Snowball]

I will pass on your concerns to the manager, soonest.

[SCIAG]

Surely Kebe should get assists for the first and third goals?

[Snowball]

Surely Kebe should get assists for the first and third goals?

He did.

[Ian Royal]

Surely Kebe should get assists for the first and third goals?

I don't see how a player can get an assist for an own goal personally. Surely an assist is a completed pass. That wasn't.

Great cross regardless.

[taipeiroyal]

I don't really understand why everyone gets on Snowballs case so much. Yes, he is fairly direct in his responses and that upsets some people but choosing to write in a larger font? So what? Are people really that sensitive?
Keep posting the way you like Snowball, you may or may not have a big ego, I don't really care...but I do enjoy your posts!

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

so about 1 in 4 goals come from no assists, we should up our play so there are less assists as this is an area than can be improved upon.

[Snowball]

Surely Kebe should get assists for the first and third goals?

I don't see how a player can get an assist for an own goal personally. Surely an assist is a completed pass. That wasn't.

Great cross regardless.

I'm sure, as you rarely get to games, you have the time to look up the FA-Approved
Official Definition of "an Assist"


If you care to note, I call assists "Major Contributions" these days.


For example, the incredible pitch-length run by Kebe last season
officially warrants no "assist" or a "major contribution"

To date, this season I have awarded 4 major contributions which don't fit with the OS.

Last season I gave an assist to Shane Long (Pearce's goal early in the season) which the OS had missed.

You, Ian Royal, agreed with that decision.



Everybody knows which goals were involved with MCs and they can either accept my view or discount it.

What they can't do (and this pleases me greatly) is CHANGE my view.

It is my opinion that Simon Church (a long way from being my favourite player) made a real
contribution to the "Job McAnuff" second "goal". I actually believe he should be credited with the goal
but I have satisfied myself with giving him a "Major Contribution"




I have already explained my position but will do so again.

Church's challenge CLEARLY changed the flight of the ball.

(a) I believe 95% that he flicked the ball and changed its direction.

(b) There's a small chance, a SMALL chance, that it was the defender's touch.

(c) BUT, had Church not made the attempt. there is a much-increased possibility that the defender would have headed McAnuff's shot clear.

(d) The action of Church-Defender changed the flight of the ball AND unsighted the goalkeeper




Now PLEASE keep arguing. I just love to see all the wasted effort.

[Snowball]

Surely Kebe should get assists for the first and third goals?

I don't see how a player can get an assist for an own goal personally. Surely an assist is a completed pass. That wasn't.

Great cross regardless.

Strongly disagree.And not just because it's you saying it (tho' that's a happy bonus.)

Last season or the one before (the one before I think) Kebe had a dribble along the goal line and blasted
a cross-shot which was deflected in. His cross-shot CAUSED the goal even though the final touch was a defender's
(I think this was Boro, so must've been two seasons ago)

The point is, CLEARLY any normal, actually-watches-games spectator can see how important
was Kebe's contribution, and how he made the goal. Sometimes, technical own-goals are awarded
to the striker, sometimes they aren't, but I would certainly award a HC or an assist.

Surely what matters is to reflect the player's contribution as accurately as possible
rather than slavishly adhere to a very dodgy unwritten rule?


It isn't as if these things are done on a whim and kept secret. It's publicly
stated and made clear reasons-wise and can be accepted or discounted.

[Snowball]

I don't really understand why everyone gets on Snowballs case so much. Yes, he is fairly direct in his responses and that upsets some people but choosing to write in a larger font? So what? Are people really that sensitive?
Keep posting the way you like Snowball, you may or may not have a big ego, I don't really care...but I do enjoy your posts!

Cheers, TR,


Be 1% different you're a "genius"

Be 2% different they hate you.

Be 3% different they will try to kill you.

[cmonurz]

I don't really understand why everyone gets on Snowballs case so much. Yes, he is fairly direct in his responses and that upsets some people but choosing to write in a larger font? So what? Are people really that sensitive?
Keep posting the way you like Snowball, you may or may not have a big ego, I don't really care...but I do enjoy your posts!

Well see above his rather patronising post to IR defining an assist, and you may have some idea why some get on his case!

[rhroyal]

Surely Kebe should get assists for the first and third goals?

I don't see how a player can get an assist for an own goal personally. Surely an assist is a completed pass. That wasn't.

Great cross regardless.

Great cross that puts defender under immense pressure to reach the ball before the striker, and hence score an OG, is most definitely an assist.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Surely Kebe should get assists for the first and third goals?

I don't see how a player can get an assist for an own goal personally. Surely an assist is a completed pass. That wasn't.

Great cross regardless.

I'm sure, as you rarely get to games, you have the time to look up the FA-Approved
Official Definition of "an Assist"


If you care to note, I call assists "Major Contributions" these days.


For example, the incredible pitch-length run by Kebe last season
officially warrants no "assist" or a "major contribution"

To date, this season I have awarded 4 major contributions which don't fit with the OS.

Last season I gave an assist to Shane Long (Pearce's goal early in the season) which the OS had missed.

You, Ian Royal, agreed with that decision.



Everybody knows which goals were involved with MCs and they can either accept my view or discount it.

What they can't do (and this pleases me greatly) is CHANGE my view.

It is my opinion that Simon Church (a long way from being my favourite player) made a real
contribution to the "Job McAnuff" second "goal". I actually believe he should be credited with the goal
but I have satisfied myself with giving him a "Major Contribution"




I have already explained my position but will do so again.

Church's challenge CLEARLY changed the flight of the ball.

(a) I believe 95% that he flicked the ball and changed its direction.

(b) There's a small chance, a SMALL chance, that it was the defender's touch.

(c) BUT, had Church not made the attempt. there is a much-increased possibility that the defender would have headed McAnuff's shot clear.

(d) The action of Church-Defender changed the flight of the ball AND unsighted the goalkeeper




Now PLEASE keep arguing. I just love to see all the wasted effort.

IMHO had Church been far post then the defender would have approached McA and McA would have beat him and slipped the ball past a lonely keeper

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Oh and the slight change in direction probably meant the ball keep high enough to beat the keeper, if you look the ball was going to drop then it stayed high thanks to the touch.

[Snowball]

I don't really understand why everyone gets on Snowballs case so much. Yes, he is fairly direct in his responses and that upsets some people but choosing to write in a larger font? So what? Are people really that sensitive?
Keep posting the way you like Snowball, you may or may not have a big ego, I don't really care...but I do enjoy your posts!

Well see above his rather patronising post to IR defining an assist, and you may have some idea why some get on his case!

It's impossible to be patronising ENOUGH to Ian Royal

[Snowball]

Oh and the slight change in direction probably meant the ball keep high enough to beat the keeper, if you look the ball was going to drop then it stayed high thanks to the touch.

Agreed. The touch, by whomever, probably "MADE" the goal. Church, whether touching it or forcing the defender's touch, plays an important part.

The keeper has dived and is way under the eventual flight of the ball

[Snowball]

Surely Kebe should get assists for the first and third goals?

I don't see how a player can get an assist for an own goal personally. Surely an assist is a completed pass. That wasn't.

Great cross regardless.

Great cross that puts defender under immense pressure to reach the ball before the striker, and hence score an OG, is most definitely an assist.

EXACTLY