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Re: CheLOLsea

by Cobi » 05 Apr 2012 11:13

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Who'd have thought we'd be one of the best four teams in Europe eh! 8)


You're not. :|


http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uef ... k2012.html

Actually, they're one of the top three.


So you are relying on stats from as far back as 2007 to the present to determine where Chelsea are in the current standings?

What a load of rubbish. They aren't even the 8th best side in Europe at the moment. It's about the now, not yesteryear!

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by Terminal Boardom » 05 Apr 2012 11:39

Is the team that wins the FA Cup better than the team that wins the Premier League title? Of course not. A series of one-off games is nothing compared to the demands of a 38 game season. The only way that Chelsea, or anyone else can claim to be the 4th best team in Europe would be if there was a true Champions League involving 38 games per team in a season.

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by cmonurz » 05 Apr 2012 12:14

Chelsea are ranked third in the UEFA club coefficient that ranks performances in European competition. This isn't the same as saying they are the 3rd best team in Europe.

They have a record of 6 semi finals in 9 years, but only 1 final so far, those semis give them a lot of points in the calculation of the coefficient.

Of course many might argue that winning the whole thing once >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaching a few semi finals.

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by Big Foot » 05 Apr 2012 12:29

cmonurz Chelsea are ranked third in the UEFA club coefficient that ranks performances in European competition. This isn't the same as saying they are the 3rd best team in Europe.

They have a record of 6 semi finals in 9 years, but only 1 final so far, those semis give them a lot of points in the calculation of the coefficient.

Of course many might argue that winning the whole thing once >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaching a few semi finals.

Indeed, Chelsea now hold the record for most number of SF appearances without having won the CL

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by RobRoyal » 05 Apr 2012 14:05

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/05/chelsea-john-terry-cracks-ribs

"Chelsea fear Terry has cracked ribs - Captain to undergo scan after revealing he is struggling to breathe during games"

Sad how they can't accept that he's just old and out of breath.


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by Extended-Phenotype » 05 Apr 2012 14:12

He should stop his continuous muttering of racist words under his breath.

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Re: CheLOLsea

by Silver Fox » 05 Apr 2012 14:19

He's obviously watched one too many Bernard Manning DVDs

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Re: CheLOLsea

by Extended-Phenotype » 05 Apr 2012 14:27

Maybe he hurt himself climbing out of his special custom bean-bag stuffed full of the malleable corpses of black children.

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by No Fixed Abode » 05 Apr 2012 15:13

cmonurz Of course many might argue that winning the whole thing once >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaching a few semi finals.


Not sure KKKenny would agree with that. :lol:


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by No Fixed Abode » 05 Apr 2012 15:15

^^So Uniteds 19 league titles, or Liverpools 5 European Cups don't count, as it's all about the now, so we can discount those? :|

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by RobRoyal » 05 Apr 2012 15:19

No Fixed Abode ^^So Uniteds 19 league titles, or Liverpools 5 European Cups don't count, as it's all about the now, so we can discount those? :|


Well, you claimed Chelsea were one of the best four teams in Europe. So how good they are right now is really the issue. If someone had said that Liverpool are one of the best teams in Europe, then no, the fact that they were ace thirty-odd years ago wouldn't really redeem that claim.

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Re: CheLOLsea

by cmonurz » 05 Apr 2012 15:37

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cmonurz Of course many might argue that winning the whole thing once >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaching a few semi finals.


Not sure KKKenny would agree with that. :lol:


Well, true. Dalglish would say "I've won 3 European Cups and Chelsea have won none, LOLZ."

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Re: CheLOLsea

by No Fixed Abode » 05 Apr 2012 15:48

He would have said that years ago. Not now.

Now he would have said "We've won the Carling Cup, the Champions League doesn't matter". :lol:


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Re: CheLOLsea

by Extended-Phenotype » 05 Apr 2012 15:50

No, he'd say "Champions League? That's for N***ers."

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Re: CheLOLsea

by Friday's Legacy » 05 Apr 2012 16:42

No Fixed Abode ^^So Uniteds 19 league titles, or Liverpools 5 European Cups don't count, as it's all about the now, so we can discount those? :|


You cannot seriously believe the current Chelsea team is in the top four best sides in Europe right now? Stats over a period of time do not offer an accurate picture of how well you are currently performing.

Chelsea have been very average this season. The fact you're scrapping away for 4th place says it all really, does it not?

Making reference to United's league titles and Liverpool's European Cups is as pointless. What are you trying to say? Trophies won doesn't reflect how good a side is this season, unless of course a trophy was won this season. Past success is exactly that.

Man up and take it as it is. Chelsea are a poor reflection of their recent self, and are not as good as several of Europe's top clubs currently.

cmonurz Chelsea are ranked third in the UEFA club coefficient that ranks performances in European competition. This isn't the same as saying they are the 3rd best team in Europe.


Exactly.

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cmonurz Chelsea are ranked third in the UEFA club coefficient that ranks performances in European competition. This isn't the same as saying they are the 3rd best team in Europe.


The Champions League's biggest bottlers. They have no chance against Barca over 2 legs, so that stat will just keep giving.

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Re: CheLOLsea

by M-U-R-T-Y » 05 Apr 2012 17:00

Extended-Phenotype Maybe he hurt himself climbing out of his special custom bean-bag stuffed full of the malleable corpses of black children.


I can't help but think that sometimes you try a little too hard.

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Re: CheLOLsea

by Mr Angry » 05 Apr 2012 19:23

Fair shout to Fat Fwank; 6 penalties in the CL, all 6 converted.

Shame he couldn't have taken all the penalties in Moscow really............

:lol:

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Re: CheLOLsea

by Ian Royal » 05 Apr 2012 21:18

No Fixed Abode ^^So Uniteds 19 league titles, or Liverpools 5 European Cups don't count, as it's all about the now, so we can discount those? :|

For current ranking of teams quality? Hell yes.

The question wasn't who is the historically biggest or most successful team in Europe. If it was Chelsea wouldn't make the top 20 let alone top 3.

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Re: CheLOLsea

by No Fixed Abode » 06 Apr 2012 11:06

Wonder what prize money and television money we've got from this. Must be a fair whack..... 8)

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by Zammo » 06 Apr 2012 11:16

No Fixed Abode Wonder what prize money and television money we've got from this. Must be a fair whack..... 8)


Won't touch the debt, m8.

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