RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by KC Royal » 24 Apr 2012 10:37

Could see some truth in the Bertrand rumour, didn’t we try to sign him permanently a couple of years ago? Have always hoped if we ever went up we’d try to get him. This time last year I could have seen it happening had we gone up, he made noises around the time of the Euro U21s about maybe moving on to get first team football, but now I’m not so sure about our chances. He’s played a few games recently for Chelsea and I’m sure he signed a long term contract at some point in the last 9 months or so.

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by Cobi » 24 Apr 2012 11:22

Neck ache!

Hope it happens. Zaha especially.

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by URZZ » 24 Apr 2012 11:23

Apologies. Found it on Twatter and couldn't be assed to save it and rotate etc

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by URZZ » 24 Apr 2012 11:41

He's pretty good actually. Couple of videos

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tYGIbl-Poc [See 20 seconds, bit of a rudeboiii]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ixQffaAbWg


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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by Maguire » 24 Apr 2012 12:14

Bertrand would be a great signing but seriously, Chelsea won't let him go

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by Jano » 24 Apr 2012 12:34

Surprised at the number of people saying Bertrand is a definite no. There will obviously be massive changes at Chelsea over the summer, chances are that will include a new manager and a lot of money being spent. If Ashley Cole stays, I would imagine Bertrand will be looking to move on for first team football, and he fits the bill nicely, knows the club, the players and the manager.

Zaha I'm unsure about. He was quite clearly a tricky player but that is a lot of money for someone untested in the Prem. Reminded me a bit of Taraabt and he hasn't exactly set the world alight at QPR this season, and at least to me, he seemed to be getting very frustrated against us when things weren't coming off for him in the second half. I guess it's always a gamble but for me, for this sort of money, I'd be looking for more experience.

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by Dare to Dr£am » 24 Apr 2012 12:37

Jano Surprised at the number of people saying Bertrand is a definite no. There will obviously be massive changes at Chelsea over the summer, chances are that will include a new manager and a lot of money being spent. If Ashley Cole stays, I would imagine Bertrand will be looking to move on for first team football, and he fits the bill nicely, knows the club, the players and the manager.

Zaha I'm unsure about. He was quite clearly a tricky player but that is a lot of money for someone untested in the Prem. Reminded me a bit of Taraabt and he hasn't exactly set the world alight at QPR this season, and at least to me, he seemed to be getting very frustrated against us when things weren't coming off for him in the second half. I guess it's always a gamble but for me, for this sort of money, I'd be looking for more experience.


£6m seems the going rate for an young up and coming Championship player these days. AZ said he wants us to bring young talent to the club, and if that's true he will have to pay for it.

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by URZZ » 24 Apr 2012 12:39

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Jano Surprised at the number of people saying Bertrand is a definite no. There will obviously be massive changes at Chelsea over the summer, chances are that will include a new manager and a lot of money being spent. If Ashley Cole stays, I would imagine Bertrand will be looking to move on for first team football, and he fits the bill nicely, knows the club, the players and the manager.

Zaha I'm unsure about. He was quite clearly a tricky player but that is a lot of money for someone untested in the Prem. Reminded me a bit of Taraabt and he hasn't exactly set the world alight at QPR this season, and at least to me, he seemed to be getting very frustrated against us when things weren't coming off for him in the second half. I guess it's always a gamble but for me, for this sort of money, I'd be looking for more experience.


£6m seems the going rate for an young up and coming Championship player these days. AZ said he wants us to bring young talent to the club, and if that's true he will have to pay for it.


I hear that Jano. He seems a rather selfish player like Adel too. Would that go down well in our TEAM? Since we "all work for each other" etc.


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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by Dare to Dr£am » 24 Apr 2012 12:42

Zaha isn't selfish. He's been behind most of Palace's attacks this season, scoring a few himself and providing chances as well. When you've got good feet like him you WANT him to run at people and get into the box. Dare stick your foot in and he can switch feet and down he goes. Yes please!!

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by winchester_royal » 24 Apr 2012 12:46

He's no more selfish than Kebe or McAnuff. We need our wingers to be selfish and try and go past their man, it's what our system is based on.

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by Jano » 24 Apr 2012 12:51

Dare to Dr£am Zaha isn't selfish. He's been behind most of Palace's attacks this season, scoring a few himself and providing chances as well. When you've got good feet like him you WANT him to run at people and get into the box. Dare stick your foot in and he can switch feet and down he goes. Yes please!!


That's all well and good but the Prem is a big step up from the Championship. Do you really want a player who gets frustrated easily out on the pitch when your up against teams who will know exactly how to wind him up, and I can't see his tricks working too well against a top quality defence like they may have done in the Championship. There were quite a few times when the pass or cross to Murray was a far better option than his weird stepovers, could be that the place for him to learn that is with us in the Prem, but I still think that's a big gamble to take.

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by Dare to Dr£am » 24 Apr 2012 13:09

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Dare to Dr£am Zaha isn't selfish. He's been behind most of Palace's attacks this season, scoring a few himself and providing chances as well. When you've got good feet like him you WANT him to run at people and get into the box. Dare stick your foot in and he can switch feet and down he goes. Yes please!!


That's all well and good but the Prem is a big step up from the Championship. Do you really want a player who gets frustrated easily out on the pitch when your up against teams who will know exactly how to wind him up, and I can't see his tricks working too well against a top quality defence like they may have done in the Championship. There were quite a few times when the pass or cross to Murray was a far better option than his weird stepovers, could be that the place for him to learn that is with us in the Prem, but I still think that's a big gamble to take.


I want a player his age, with his talent, who can be developed and nurtured by one of the best coaches out there at the moment. So yes please!


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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by LeFondreforEngland » 24 Apr 2012 13:18

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Dare to Dr£am Zaha isn't selfish. He's been behind most of Palace's attacks this season, scoring a few himself and providing chances as well. When you've got good feet like him you WANT him to run at people and get into the box. Dare stick your foot in and he can switch feet and down he goes. Yes please!!


That's all well and good but the Prem is a big step up from the Championship. Do you really want a player who gets frustrated easily out on the pitch when your up against teams who will know exactly how to wind him up, and I can't see his tricks working too well against a top quality defence like they may have done in the Championship. There were quite a few times when the pass or cross to Murray was a far better option than his weird stepovers, could be that the place for him to learn that is with us in the Prem, but I still think that's a big gamble to take.


I want a player his age, with his talent, who can be developed and nurtured by one of the best coaches out there at the moment. So yes please!


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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by Jano » 24 Apr 2012 13:23

Perhaps he didn't have the best of games against us, only thing I saw was yet another over hyped over expensive young British talent.

IMHO, far better off spending that money elsewhere.

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by JimmytheJim » 24 Apr 2012 13:41

Jano Perhaps he didn't have the best of games against us, only thing I saw was yet another over hyped over expensive young British talent.

IMHO, far better off spending that money elsewhere.


I thought that exact same thing about Ashley Young when he played against us for Watford.

Since then I have been less hasty to cast harsh judgements on youngsters.

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by Jano » 24 Apr 2012 13:45

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Jano Perhaps he didn't have the best of games against us, only thing I saw was yet another over hyped over expensive young British talent.

IMHO, far better off spending that money elsewhere.


I thought that exact same thing about Ashley Young when he played against us for Watford.

Since then I have been less hasty to cast harsh judgements on youngsters.


I'm still unconvinced about Ashley Young but that's another matter ;) I dunno, to me he just seemed like a stereotypical luxury player; Can't see that being too useful to us next season. Yes the midfield needs some creativity, but I don't think this guy is the answer.

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by Super Kevin Bremner! » 24 Apr 2012 13:51

Clyne would be a top TOP signing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwhGmkLR5a0

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by loyalroyal4life » 24 Apr 2012 13:56

winchester_royal He's no more selfish than Kebe or McAnuff. We need our wingers to be selfish and try and go past their man, it's what our system is based on.



He is also much better than kebe and mcanuff

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Re: RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

by Maguire » 24 Apr 2012 14:45

Super Kevin Bremner! Clyne would be a top TOP signing


Agreed. Skillz right back.

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