SPECULATION - Ched Evans

[royalsteve]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18264057

Available on a free after being released by Sheffield United - worth a punt? Good scoring record.

Hopefully our contract talks will be consensual.

one thing that puzzled me is why the other player wasnt charged

as an aside, another puzzling thing was that for 2 supposedly fair sized clubs, a 52100 crowd at Wembley was pathetic

anyway i suppose we could wait 5 years

[cmonurz]

It's no-one's 'responsibility' to ensure that they don't get wasted

How is it not your own responsibility to ensure you don't get severely intoxicated?


If I go out, drink 20 pints of beer, and make a fool of myself you're saying I shouldn't be held responsible?

You would be responsible for your actions, not those of other people. But seriously, what's the point of only quoting half my sentence?

[Norfolk Royal]

It's no-one's 'responsibility' to ensure that they don't get wasted

How is it not your own responsibility to ensure you don't get severely intoxicated?


If I go out, drink 20 pints of beer, and make a fool of myself you're saying I shouldn't be held responsible?

You would be responsible for your actions, not those of other people. But seriously, what's the point of only quoting half my sentence?

Don't bother arguing with him, with views like that he won't be at liberty for long anyway.

[Toon Toon Blue army]

It's no-one's 'responsibility' to ensure that they don't get wasted

How is it not your own responsibility to ensure you don't get severely intoxicated?


If I go out, drink 20 pints of beer, and make a fool of myself you're saying I shouldn't be held responsible?

You would be responsible for your actions, not those of other people. But seriously, what's the point of only quoting half my sentence?

Was "in case there happens to be a rapist in the room" really worth quoting?

I guess you're right, you can't be responsible for other people's actions, but I think you can certainly be responsible for putting yourself in the situation. I.e. she willingly went back with someone when under the influence, and at no point did she make it clear she was unhappy Evans was watching..

Basically my argument is its not like Evans was stalking someone, bundled them down an alley and raped them. The whole situation seems very uncertain, he could have been extremely drunk himself, and thought the girl was up for it considering she was fine with having sex with the other guy and being watched according to the trail. She never said no or stop, and the evidence all seems a bit unclear, i.e. the other guy gets off because they were seen linking arms, kissing.. if she wasn't in a fit state to give consent how could she have agreed to have sex with him later, but not have agreed to have sex with Evans?

I'm not denying Evans didn't rape her or what he did was wrong, I just think 5 years is harsh considering the circumstances.

[TFF]

They should introduce a new category of offence - rape lite perhaps - for raping girls that deserve it.

Punishable by a stern ticking off and being told to behave in the future.

[cmonurz]

Absolutely, two years max if she is incapable of saying no, with time off if you think you see her o-face.

[Maguire]

The other guy got acquitted so basically she falsely accused him of rape.

Pretty shocking thing to do because you've had a few sherberts and can't handle the fact you've acted like a bit of a slag

[M-U-R-T-Y]

Well this wasn't the thread full of prison puns I was hoping for.

[The Prisoner]

In other news I have just seen a butterfly go past with a picture of a slag tattooed on it's wing.

[who are ya?]

Ched has been a rape victim himself yet Essien was never charged..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJiehceTvRs

[Royal Ginger]

Well this wasn't the thread full of prison puns I was hoping for.

+1

I was expecting more along the lines of "it's only a bad signing 'til she likes it" etc.