Rule Changes

[Flyingkiwi]

I'm currently watching an Under 19's International on the Telly (PRC Vs DPRK. China scored in about the 10th minutes and maintained that lead up until the last minute of time added on for stoppages (5 minutes). BUT they did so with the help of a display of the most blatant time-wasting I have ever had the misfortune to see. In the 25 minutes between the 65th and the 90th, the Chinese team had no less than 7 player stretcherd off for injuries (And that is just the point at which I started counting). Sure; 5 minutes got added at the end (The DPRK scoring with the last kick, so justice being done) but they would have wasted FAR more than that. All Chinese teams do this and it's just crap. It makes them even worse to watch. It's just cheating and I'd like to suggest a rule-change. I think that any player that has to leave the field should have to stay off for a set period of time (Say 5 minutes). This would stop teams feigning injury to player to waste time as they would be at a numerical disadvantage (It would also ensure that players with authentic injuries got proper treatment). Should a player go off more than once, the "recuperation" time period should be extended (8 or 10 minutes for the second occurence, longer for any subsequent trips to the side-lines).

Another thing that pisses me off is players "sheparding" the ball out of play, making no effort to play it and "obstructing" oponents from getting to it. If they aren't making any real effort to use the ball, it shouldn't be illegal for opponents to push them away.

RANT OVER. (Ha Ha! 1 -1 )

[TBM]

Yeah - punish players/teams for injuries?!

[cmonurz]

Worst idea since putting banana with chicken.

[Flyingkiwi]

There were no injuries.

[TBM]

There were no injuries.

So basically the ref has to ask an independent doctor/physio his opinion before keeping said player off the pitch for 5 mins?!

[Wax Jacket]

Worst idea since putting banana with chicken.

do it with some rice, scotch bonnets and a ton of butter ad you're onto a winner

[Flyingkiwi]

There were no injuries.

So basically the ref has to ask an independent doctor/physio his opinion before keeping said player off the pitch for 5 mins?!

No. If there is an authentic injury the player will have to stay off for treatment anyway (Or be replaced).

[TBM]

So who decides what is and isn't an authentic injury?

[PieEater]

I think the point is that the new rule about having to go off the pitch if the trainer came on was meant to stop people feigning injuries. It turns out to be a great way to waste time particularly by calling for a stretcher and allows you to rejoin the play pretty quickly. If you weren't allowed to rejoin so soon it might have the original intent. Say by the medic having to perform a series of checks that takes at least 2 mins.

[TBM]

Wouldn't it just be easier for the ref to actually stop the watch - then it doesn't matter if people fake it

[Ian Royal]

I think the point is that the new rule about having to go off the pitch if the trainer came on was meant to stop people feigning injuries. It turns out to be a great way to waste time particularly by calling for a stretcher and allows you to rejoin the play pretty quickly. If you weren't allowed to rejoin so soon it might have the original intent. Say by the medic having to perform a series of checks that takes at least 2 mins.

It'd be much more effective if the ref allowed no treatment for anything other than very obviously serious injuries where moving the player could be dangerous. And forced them to either immediately leave the pitch under their own power or get stretchered off. None of this assess the injury and give it some treatment, then walk off pretending to limp and come straight back on bollocks.

I get very pissed off with players going down injured near the edge of the pitch and waiting for play to halt. It's never serious. If they want treatment, they should oxf*rd roll three yards so they can get it.

Once players stop taking the piss again, maybe you can revoke the law.

[Franchise FC]

Fourth official becomes the official timekeeper and stops the clock for both injuries and timewasting (but only when the ball is out of play).

So simple ........ but the problem is that games would finish more than two hours after they started

[cmonurz]

Fourth official becomes the official timekeeper and stops the clock for both injuries and timewasting (but only when the ball is out of play).

So simple ........ but the problem is that games would finish more than two hours after they started

Works for rugby.

[Franchise FC]

Fourth official becomes the official timekeeper and stops the clock for both injuries and timewasting (but only when the ball is out of play).

So simple ........ but the problem is that games would finish more than two hours after they started

Works for rugby.

Don't get me started on the rules from rugby.

Why football doesn't have the following is beyond me :

1. Players failing to retreat or disputing a decision - the ball should move ten yards directly towards the opponents goal. If that takes the ball inside the penalty area it becomes a penalty. Anyone still complaining or not retreating it becomes a penalty goal. No yellow or red cards so keeping players on the pitch and direct punishment for the offending team.
2. Timewasting should be punished by giving the ball to the opposition - from a throw in or free kick, simply give the throw/free kick the other way - from a goal kick, give a corner - from a corner give a goal kick
3. Retaliation after a challenge, reverse the decision


As for the referee standing over the ball to ask the attacking team if they want him to get the wall back 10 yards ............. get away so that if they want to take it quickly they bloody well can.

[SpaceCruiser]

1. Players failing to retreat or disputing a decision - the ball should move ten yards directly towards the opponents goal. If that takes the ball inside the penalty area it becomes a penalty. Anyone still complaining or not retreating it becomes a penalty goal. No yellow or red cards so keeping players on the pitch and direct punishment for the offending team.

We had this rule a number of years back but it got binned for some reason (maybe it was confusing the players or some other equally naff reason).

[Franchise FC]

1. Players failing to retreat or disputing a decision - the ball should move ten yards directly towards the opponents goal. If that takes the ball inside the penalty area it becomes a penalty. Anyone still complaining or not retreating it becomes a penalty goal. No yellow or red cards so keeping players on the pitch and direct punishment for the offending team.

We had this rule a number of years back but it got binned for some reason (maybe it was confusing the players or some other equally naff reason).

No we didn't - the rule then was that the offender got cautioned, which immediately slowed the whole game up, which was exactly what the offender wanted.

[SpaceCruiser]

1. Players failing to retreat or disputing a decision - the ball should move ten yards directly towards the opponents goal. If that takes the ball inside the penalty area it becomes a penalty. Anyone still complaining or not retreating it becomes a penalty goal. No yellow or red cards so keeping players on the pitch and direct punishment for the offending team.

We had this rule a number of years back but it got binned for some reason (maybe it was confusing the players or some other equally naff reason).

No we didn't - the rule then was that the offender got cautioned, which immediately slowed the whole game up, which was exactly what the offender wanted.

Yes, we did have the ball moving forward 10 yards rule!

[Franchise FC]

Franchise FC wrote :
1. Players failing to retreat or disputing a decision - the ball should move ten yards directly towards the opponents goal. If that takes the ball inside the penalty area it becomes a penalty. Anyone still complaining or not retreating it becomes a penalty goal. No yellow or red cards so keeping players on the pitch and direct punishment for the offending team.

We had this rule a number of years back but it got binned for some reason (maybe it was confusing the players or some other equally naff reason).

No we didn't - the rule then was that the offender got cautioned, which immediately slowed the whole game up, which was exactly what the offender wanted.

Yes, we did have the ball moving forward 10 yards rule!

Would you mind reading the full text as I've written it. The emphasis on NOT GIVING A YELLOW OR RED CARD, and if the ball is moved ionto the penalty area giving a penalty.
You seem to have picked only one small part of what I'm suggesting - shouldn't be suprised should I.

[paultheroyal]

It's LAW CHANGES, hope that helps!

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

It'd be much more effective if the ref allowed no treatment for anything other than very obviously serious injuries where moving the player could be dangerous.

It'd also be better if the game only stopped for serious looking injuries. You'd be amazed how quickly a lot of players would get up if the play didn't stop.

Refs should also be made to add on all the time lost through those injuries as well.

The rugby style idea of physios coming on for players without the game stopping should also be looked at.


I'd also bring in a two-match ban for anyone who gets a player send off through cheating.

While I'm at it, I'd also say "contact" can only be a foul if the ref feels the contact itself was enough to make the player fall.