Mcarthy bust up with Adkins

[Terminal Boardom]

The likelihood of giving up possession with a 50 yard punt upfield is greater than if the ball is thrown out to full backs or wingers. You don't win games if you keep giving the ball away.

[TBM]

Who's Mcarthy?

[melonhead]

Conversely, I've always thought some of Feds' kicking has been atrocious in the past. McCarthy always seemed to have better distribution to me. Which is why I queried it.

Mcarthy always goes down the middle with his kicks and theyre high and loopy- pretty much always 50-50 if we get it or not..
fed always aims for the wings. either we get the ball, the oppo header it out for our throw, or occasionaly, feds will let it drift too far and itll go straight out.

a moron would highlight the tiny minority of accasions it went straight out to argue that this tactic is a bad idea.

[Alexander Litvinenko]

But when you're playing one up front, and he's 5' 9" and up against a 6' 3" centre back, surely any hoofing it forward by either 'keeper is going to be pretty pointless?

[TBM]

But when you're playing one up front, and he's 5' 9" and up against a 6' 3" centre back, surely any hoofing it forward by either 'keeper is going to be pretty pointless?

Not if you hit the channels and its a low kick like Feds does......

[Alexander Litvinenko]

But when you're playing one up front, and he's 5' 9" and up against a 6' 3" centre back, surely any hoofing it forward by either 'keeper is going to be pretty pointless?

Not if you hit the channels and its a low kick like Feds does......

All that means is that you have a lone striker out in the channels with the ball at his feet, and a penalty box empty except for 4 massive Saints defenders.

[TBM]

Surely the target should be the wingers with ALF backing them up - with the opposite winger pushing in to get on the end of any cross that comes in.......

[Alexander Litvinenko]

Absolutely agree. But the wingers couldn't commit forward for fear of being completely overrun in midfield.

But playing one up front is pretty pointless if teh one isn't suited to that game. If the wingers aren't going to come forward for the long kick the lone striker needs to be able to win the ball and hold it up until they do. But when you have one striker they shouldn't be working the channels unless they have someone to pass to if they do win it out wide.

[RoyalBlue]

Conversely, I've always thought some of Feds' kicking has been atrocious in the past. McCarthy always seemed to have better distribution to me. Which is why I queried it.

I'm surprised that you see it that way. Prior to his injury, I can recall quite a few of McCarthy's kicks going out for throws (certainly when compared to Feds). The kicking style adopted by Feds (can't remember what coaches call it) tends to be faster, flatter and more accurate and an increasing number of keepers are now adopting it. However, I also seem to recall some 'experts' expressing concern that the style puts quite a stress on parts of the body.

[melonhead]

Absolutely agree. But the wingers couldn't commit forward for fear of being completely overrun in midfield.

But playing one up front is pretty pointless if teh one isn't suited to that game. If the wingers aren't going to come forward for the long kick .......

every kick was aimed at HRK on saturday, so surely thats exactly what happened

[sandman]

If you have a problem with him kicking it to the 5'9" lone front man ALF (which he didn't really do often because most of the time his kicks went to the wings) take it up with the manager who A. Selected Alfie up front on his own and B. Clearly said in his interview that he wanted Feds to distribute the ball quickly.

Keeper only did what he was instructed to do.

[West Stand Man]

If you have a problem with him kicking it to the 5'9" lone front man ALF (which he didn't really do often because most of the time his kicks went to the wings) take it up with the manager who A. Selected Alfie up front on his own and B. Clearly said in his interview that he wanted Feds to distribute the ball quickly.

Keeper only did what he was instructed to do.

And to be fair, most of the time he I'd get the ball wide so that our 5' 9" striker didn't have to compete with their 7' CB until the ball was on the ground.

[Ian Royal]

The likelihood of giving up possession with a 50 yard punt upfield is greater than if the ball is thrown out to full backs or wingers. You don't win games if you keep giving the ball away.

But the chances of conceeding if you do lose possession are far higher from a throw to full backs than a kick up field. And it doesn't get you as close to the goal. There's a time and a place for both.

[Sanguine]

I know there’s a bigger keeper thread for this, but for me McCarthy has huge amounts of long-term potential. I expect him to win a handful of England caps (Hart has the position sewn up though). On the basis that it’s one or the other next season, I’d take McCarthy over Feds in a heartbeat. Federici will do a fine job for us next season, but I’d argue McCarthy is potentially the best player to come out of our Academy, to lose him would be gutting.

[sandman]

McCarthy had two games under his belt and was match fit, so he should have played. Feds has form for throwing his toys out of his pram when McCarthy was ahead of him before, so it wouldn't surprise me if he reacted to McCarthy's inclusion over him and kicked up a fuss. Either way he's one personality at the club that I genuinely can't stand and wont miss, and I hope he moves on in the summer. McCarthy will be the better keeper given the games.

Conversely, I've always thought some of Feds' kicking has been atrocious in the past. McCarthy always seemed to have better distribution to me. Which is why I queried it.

McCarthy's kicking is nowhere near as good as Federici's. He doesn't get the distance, or flat trajectory that Fed can get to help out our players win it. I'd say it's the one big weakness I've seen. Although it does means he'll throw it more often because he has to.

Federici's kicking yesterday was miserable. Two went out for throw ins, and the rest were just bam get it down the field as soon as possible and hope to god we get the rub of the green. McCarthy would have offered no more and no less in that respect.

Prove it. All I've heard anyone say is that he is very professional and is often one of the first and last in training.

Still waiting Jay.