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Really ? Hardly difficult to do was it ?
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Anyway, after the very mildly amusing sidetrack, back on topic. Mid table Manchester United. #keepMoyesin etc etc.
Anyone else see this :
Complex contract means London club have already paid rivals £200,000 for the midfielder's eight games this season
Manchester United receive a payment of £25,000 for every first-team appearance Ravel Morrison makes for West Ham United.
That seems like shit business on west hams part
Complex contract means London club have already paid rivals £200,000 for the midfielder's eight games this season
Manchester United receive a payment of £25,000 for every first-team appearance Ravel Morrison makes for West Ham United.
That seems like shit business on west hams part
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Depends on other clauses really doesn't it. It was an undisclosed fee at the time. Maybe not a lot.
If he plays 400 times for WHU it would cost them £10m on the face of it. That doesn't really sound like shite business to me.
If he plays 400 times for WHU it would cost them £10m on the face of it. That doesn't really sound like shite business to me.
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Royal Rother Depends on other clauses really doesn't it. It was an undisclosed fee at the time. Maybe not a lot.
If he plays 400 times for WHU it would cost them £10m on the face of it. That doesn't really sound like shite business to me.
Agreed that's what I was thinking.
By Jason Burt10:00PM BST 12 Oct 2013
Complex contract means London club have already paid rivals £200,000 for the midfielder's eight games this season
Manchester United receive a payment of £25,000 for every first-team appearance Ravel Morrison makes for West Ham United.
The instalments are part of the complicated deal that sent the 20-year-old to Upton Park last year and add to the initial £650,000 transfer fee that West Ham
There is also understood to be a complicated release clause in Morrison’s current contract which amounts to more than £20 million. West Ham would also want that renegotiated for the attacking midfielder.
Morrison has so far made eight appearances for West Ham this season – triggering payments of £200,000 to United – having spent the previous campaign on loan to Birmingham City. He played 30 times for the Championship club.
When Sir Alex Ferguson decided to sell Morrison in January of last year, a £3 million fee was discussed with West Ham, who were then in the Championship.
But the London club eventually paid a fraction of the figure that was initially demanded upfront and instead agreed to pay United per game, which not only demonstrated their willingness to invest in Morrison but also the concerns over whether he would ever eventually knuckle down and succeed in the Premier League.
Ferguson’s friendship with Allardyce helped West Ham to secure the deal.
Such arrangements are not unusual, although extra payments are usually triggered after blocks of appearances rather than single games.
For example, though Chelsea paid Manchester City a £3.5 million compensation fee for Daniel Sturridge in January 2010, they had also paid an extra £500,000 after each block of 10 first-team appearances, up to Sturridge’s 40th game.
Ferguson, meanwhile, decided to sell Morrison to West Ham partly in the hope that a change of environment might help him to fulfil his potential.
Despite being possessing a skill level rare among England players, as demonstrated so clearly by his goal in the victory away to Tottenham Hotspur last weekend, Morrison appeared destined to waste a career despite having first come to prominence aged just 15.
He has been convicted of witness intimidation and fined by the Football Association for posting a homophobic tweet, while at United he was habitually late for training and exasperated staff.
The cycle of ill discipline restarted at West Ham but he returned to the club this summer with a transformed attitude, partly attributed to his loan spell at Birmingham but also owing to the control exerted on him by senior players such as Kevin Nolan and Mark Noble.
Morrison made an impact in pre-season at West Ham and has become a first-team regular, scoring four goals – more than he achieved last season – and earning a call-up to the England Under-21s.
He made his debut when he started the European Championship qualifier away to San Marino on Thursday, which resulted in a 4-0 victory and a video of Morrison displaying an outrageous bit of skill as he beats three opponents. It has become an internet sensation.
West Ham are working hard with Morrison’s agent, Nick Rubery, to ensure the player is developed in the right way and will, for example, limit his exposure to the media.
Is he even thT good? Can't say I've seen him play
Complex contract means London club have already paid rivals £200,000 for the midfielder's eight games this season
Manchester United receive a payment of £25,000 for every first-team appearance Ravel Morrison makes for West Ham United.
The instalments are part of the complicated deal that sent the 20-year-old to Upton Park last year and add to the initial £650,000 transfer fee that West Ham
There is also understood to be a complicated release clause in Morrison’s current contract which amounts to more than £20 million. West Ham would also want that renegotiated for the attacking midfielder.
Morrison has so far made eight appearances for West Ham this season – triggering payments of £200,000 to United – having spent the previous campaign on loan to Birmingham City. He played 30 times for the Championship club.
When Sir Alex Ferguson decided to sell Morrison in January of last year, a £3 million fee was discussed with West Ham, who were then in the Championship.
But the London club eventually paid a fraction of the figure that was initially demanded upfront and instead agreed to pay United per game, which not only demonstrated their willingness to invest in Morrison but also the concerns over whether he would ever eventually knuckle down and succeed in the Premier League.
Ferguson’s friendship with Allardyce helped West Ham to secure the deal.
Such arrangements are not unusual, although extra payments are usually triggered after blocks of appearances rather than single games.
For example, though Chelsea paid Manchester City a £3.5 million compensation fee for Daniel Sturridge in January 2010, they had also paid an extra £500,000 after each block of 10 first-team appearances, up to Sturridge’s 40th game.
Ferguson, meanwhile, decided to sell Morrison to West Ham partly in the hope that a change of environment might help him to fulfil his potential.
Despite being possessing a skill level rare among England players, as demonstrated so clearly by his goal in the victory away to Tottenham Hotspur last weekend, Morrison appeared destined to waste a career despite having first come to prominence aged just 15.
He has been convicted of witness intimidation and fined by the Football Association for posting a homophobic tweet, while at United he was habitually late for training and exasperated staff.
The cycle of ill discipline restarted at West Ham but he returned to the club this summer with a transformed attitude, partly attributed to his loan spell at Birmingham but also owing to the control exerted on him by senior players such as Kevin Nolan and Mark Noble.
Morrison made an impact in pre-season at West Ham and has become a first-team regular, scoring four goals – more than he achieved last season – and earning a call-up to the England Under-21s.
He made his debut when he started the European Championship qualifier away to San Marino on Thursday, which resulted in a 4-0 victory and a video of Morrison displaying an outrageous bit of skill as he beats three opponents. It has become an internet sensation.
West Ham are working hard with Morrison’s agent, Nick Rubery, to ensure the player is developed in the right way and will, for example, limit his exposure to the media.
Is he even thT good? Can't say I've seen him play
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United not finishing in the top four is looking all the more likely, and what's more, the financial implications of missing out on Champions League football could be massive.
The beautiful game!
The beautiful game!
One8Seven1 United not finishing in the top four is looking all the more likely, and what's more, the financial implications of missing out on Champions League football could be massive.
The beautiful game!
They'll just add extra games to the league season until United get enough points for Europe....
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NamelessOne8Seven1 United not finishing in the top four is looking all the more likely, and what's more, the financial implications of missing out on Champions League football could be massive.
The beautiful game!
They'll just add extra games to the league season until United get enough points for Europe....
Nah. Fergie has left other wise they probably would have. Moyes just doesn't have the same influence. They are on a level playing field now and judging by the reaction on their main fans forum (red café) they don't like it much
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King of StingNamelessOne8Seven1 United not finishing in the top four is looking all the more likely, and what's more, the financial implications of missing out on Champions League football could be massive.
The beautiful game!
They'll just add extra games to the league season until United get enough points for Europe....
Nah. Fergie has left other wise they probably would have. Moyes just doesn't have the same influence. They are on a level playing field now and judging by the reaction on their main fans forum (red café) they don't like it much
I can't see them finishing top four this season. How much is their annual interest on the debts the Glazers lumbered them with? That CL money is pretty darn critical I'd say. Worldwide sales for merchandise will probably see a big drop as well without any CL exposure.
Lovely stuff!
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Evra wants out citing "Personal Reasons". Probably pissed off that Moyes spent the summer trying to get in Baines and then Cointreo. Don't blame him.
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Still think they have a pretty good chance to get in the top 4, they have one of the strongest teams in the division and more than half a year to get it right.
will be interesting to see if Ferguson's autobiography, out later this week, really does reveal anything that could impact negatively on anyone at the club.
will be interesting to see if Ferguson's autobiography, out later this week, really does reveal anything that could impact negatively on anyone at the club.
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King of Sting Evra wants out citing "Personal Reasons". Probably pissed off that Moyes spent the summer trying to get in Baines and then Cointreo. Don't blame him.
He does strike me as 'uppity'
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stealthpapesKing of Sting Evra wants out citing "Personal Reasons". Probably pissed off that Moyes spent the summer trying to get in Baines and then Cointreo. Don't blame him.
He does strike me as 'uppity'
Thinks a lot of himself.
Ferguson's autobiography raises some interesting* points
Wayne Rooney lost his "old thrust" in his final season in charge because he was not fit enough
He left David Moyes to decide Rooney's future after the striker expressed his desire to leave
The hardest part of Roy Keane's body is his tongue and he has the most "savage tongue you can imagine"
England will not win a World Cup until they can produce players as technically gifted as Brazil
He turned down the job of managing England twice
Cristiano Ronaldo was the "most gifted player" he managed and calls him a "wizard"
He told Ronaldo that he would rather "shoot" him than sell him to Real Madrid in 2008
The reason he fell out with Rafa Benitez was because the Spaniard made his attacks personal
He still does not know which Arsenal player threw pizza at him in the Old Trafford tunnel
Liverpool's decision to wear T-shirts in support of Luis Suarez following claims of racism was "ridiculous"
Ex-Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini was wrong to play Carlos Tevez again after the player had gone on strike
Wayne Rooney lost his "old thrust" in his final season in charge because he was not fit enough
He left David Moyes to decide Rooney's future after the striker expressed his desire to leave
The hardest part of Roy Keane's body is his tongue and he has the most "savage tongue you can imagine"
England will not win a World Cup until they can produce players as technically gifted as Brazil
He turned down the job of managing England twice
Cristiano Ronaldo was the "most gifted player" he managed and calls him a "wizard"
He told Ronaldo that he would rather "shoot" him than sell him to Real Madrid in 2008
The reason he fell out with Rafa Benitez was because the Spaniard made his attacks personal
He still does not know which Arsenal player threw pizza at him in the Old Trafford tunnel
Liverpool's decision to wear T-shirts in support of Luis Suarez following claims of racism was "ridiculous"
Ex-Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini was wrong to play Carlos Tevez again after the player had gone on strike
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