Royal Elm Park

[sandman]

Must cost RoyalBlue an absolute bomb to travel to both Reading men's and ladies team matches each weekend. Assume he stays at a family member/friends house.

[multisync1830]

I went to the exhibition the other day. I asked what I considered to be some pretty difficult questions, using experience gained as a councillor, and received no satisfactory answers.

One of the slimy property developer types i was talking to tried to divert the conversation by telling me that it was all about making more money for the football club so that they could buy players. I suspect he thought that argument might work on me because I was wearing an RFC sweatshirt. Actually, he might have been right, but I didn't believe him.

More detail would be good re the tricky stuff.

[paultheroyal]

I went to the exhibition the other day. I asked what I considered to be some pretty difficult questions, using experience gained as a councillor, and received no satisfactory answers.

One of the slimy property developer types i was talking to tried to divert the conversation by telling me that it was all about making more money for the football club so that they could buy players. I suspect he thought that argument might work on me because I was wearing an RFC sweatshirt. Actually, he might have been right, but I didn't believe him.

Please tell me that you never told him you are / were a councillor?

[Nameless]

He was a councillor in Liverpool I believe, so probably dislikes Corbyn for being a bit of a woolly liberal !
Agree that where people have proper experience it would be interesting to hear views if they feel able to share. The contributions on the station thread are always enlightening. A balance to those enthusiastic but uneducated commentators such as myself .....

[Sutekh]

I went to the exhibition the other day. I asked what I considered to be some pretty difficult questions, using experience gained as a councillor, and received no satisfactory answers.

One of the slimy property developer types i was talking to tried to divert the conversation by telling me that it was all about making more money for the football club so that they could buy players. I suspect he thought that argument might work on me because I was wearing an RFC sweatshirt. Actually, he might have been right, but I didn't believe him.

More detail would be good re the tricky stuff.

Most likely in these early days the "developer types" don't do much beyond the PR and marketing spiel they've been educated with. Was it possible to to speak to an organ grinder?

[JC]

I wonder whether the name is a potential problem of etiquette ?

Towns such as Royal Wootten Bassett are granted the 'Royal' bit by the Queen.

Can someone simply decide to call something 'Royal' without permission ?

Might be on a par with calling somewhere a 'city' when it is still officially a town !

In a word No

You cannot even use the name Windsor in a company name without royal consent.

[Nameless]

Be surprised at the last bit. Can Mr Windsor not call his plumbing business in Burnley 'Windsor Plumbers' ?

[multisync1830]

Royal bothers wrestling tag team didn't have a warrant AFAIK

[Coppelled_Streets]

I wonder whether the name is a potential problem of etiquette ?

Towns such as Royal Wootten Bassett are granted the 'Royal' bit by the Queen.

Can someone simply decide to call something 'Royal' without permission ?

Might be on a par with calling somewhere a 'city' when it is still officially a town !

In a word No

You cannot even use the name Windsor in a company name without royal consent.

Friends local business has Windsor in it.. They didn't seek permission. Never heard of that before!

[Sutekh]

I wonder whether the name is a potential problem of etiquette ?

Towns such as Royal Wootten Bassett are granted the 'Royal' bit by the Queen.

Can someone simply decide to call something 'Royal' without permission ?

Might be on a par with calling somewhere a 'city' when it is still officially a town !

In a word No

You cannot even use the name Windsor in a company name without royal consent.

Friends local business has Windsor in it.. They didn't seek permission. Never heard of that before!

That's because it's a load of b****x

[tmesis]

In a word No

You cannot even use the name Windsor in a company name without royal consent.

Friends local business has Windsor in it.. They didn't seek permission. Never heard of that before!

That's because it's a load of b****x

Apparently it's not, weird as it may seem, but it doesn't apply to businesses in Windsor. They interviewed some legal type on Radio Berkshire the other day about it, and he mentioned that.

So yes, there would be problems calling it Royal Elm Park, as it apparently would signify royal status. That's not to say that it couldn't be called that, but they'd need to get it approved beforehand.

[Sutekh]

Apparently it's not, weird as it may seem, but it doesn't apply to businesses in Windsor. They interviewed some legal type on Radio Berkshire the other day about it, and he mentioned that.

So yes, there would be problems calling it Royal Elm Park, as it apparently would signify royal status. That's not to say that it couldn't be called that, but they'd need to get it approved beforehand.

Odd! So did we get approval to be called The Royals? Did Royal Jelly get the Queen's vote of support as well? Or is it strictly restricted to place names?

[wingnut]

My former gym used to call itself The Royal County of Berkshire Raquets Club to get round the rules on use of "Royal".

[Greatwesternline]

I'm very unconvinced by what people are saying.

Royal Elm Park isn't going to be the name of a town so i hardly thing it's the same argument as Royal Wooton Basset or whereever, Lyme Regis etc.

It's just a property development. If you can't use royal in your company name, or for that matter any other sort of thing how did we get the nickname The Royals, or Royalty Points. What people are basically saying is that Royal is a registered trade mark. If it is fine, but someone should bother finding out before spouting a load of nonsense.

[genome]

Ian Royal, CountryRoyal, paultheroyal, the Queen's coming for you.

[Green]

someone should bother finding out before spouting a load of nonsense.

You must be new around here.

Wouldn't get this from your brother.

[bobby1413]

someone should bother finding out before spouting a load of nonsense.

You must be new around here.

Wouldn't get this from your brother.

[WoodleyRoyal]

ffs it's not hard people

ROYAL ARMS, NAMES
AND IMAGES
The following summarises the legal position
governing the use, for commercial
purposes, of the Royal Arms, Royal
Devices, Emblems and Titles and of
photographs, portraits, engravings, effigies
and busts of The Queen and Members of
the Royal Family.
Guidance on advertising in which reference
is made to a Member of the Royal Family,
and on the use of images of Members of the
Royal Family on articles for sale, is also
provided.
1. Royal Arms and Royal Devices, Emblems and Titles
The use of the Royal Arms and of Royal Devices,
Emblems and Titles, or of Arms, Devices, etc., which are
so similar as to be calculated to deceive, in connection
with any trade or business, or to suggest that the person
is employed by or supplies goods to a Member of the
Royal Family, is prohibited by the Trade Marks Act
1994, unless the permission of the Member of the Royal
Family concerned has been obtained.
The Lord Chamberlain’s Office will be pleased to
provide guidance when it is unclear as to whether the use
of “Arms” etc., may give the impression that there is a
Royal connection.
2. Trade Marks
Under Section 4(1) of the Trade Marks Act 1994, a trade
mark which consists of or contains the Royal Arms, or a
constituent part, such as the Crown, or Devices likely to
be mistaken for them, or a representation of a Member of
the Royal Family, or anything likely to give the
impression that the Trade Mark owner has, or has had,
Royal patronage, will not be registered, unless consent
has been given by the Member of the Royal Family
concerned.
The Lord Chamberlain’s Office will again be pleased to
provide guidance if required.
3. Royal Names
The use in Company names of words such as King,
Queen, Prince, Princess and Royal is prohibited by the
Company and Business Names Regulations.
Using Royal names on products, rather than as part of a
Company’s name, is illegal if the use of the name
suggests the goods have some connection with or are
supplied to a Member of the Royal Family.
4. Advertising
The Advertising Standards Authority issues specific
guidelines which cover the use of Royal Images in
advertising, but generally, except when advertising a
book, newspaper article or magazine article about a
Member of the Royal Family, Royal Images may not be
used for advertising purposes in any medium.
A firm’s advertisement may not include photographs of
Members of the Royal Family visiting their works or
exhibition stands, or being publicly involved with their
goods or services. Such matters may then be referred to
the Advertising Standards Authority or the Director
General of Fair Trading under the control of Misleading
Advertisements Regulations 1988.
Legal Tender and Postage Stamps
Legal tender which shows The Queen’s head side of a
coin or bank note may be used in advertising material,
providing it is a faithful reproduction and is shown
without alteration. This also applies to postage stamps,
which must be shown in entirety, including perforations.
Clarification can be sought from the Lord Chamberlain’s
Office.
5. Images of Members of the Royal Family
The Lord Chamberlain’s Office will not generally seek
to oppose the use of images of Members of the Royal
Family on certain articles which are for sale, providing
they are of a permanent kind, free from advertisement,
in good taste, carry no implication that the firm
concerned has received Royal Custom or approval, and
are not in contravention of any trademark or copyright.
However, as a general rule, the Lord Chamberlain’s
Office does not consider that Royal Images should be
used on the following:-
Medals, medallions and coins
(which are not issued by The Queen or are
legal tender)

Adhesive seals
Articles of dress
Household linen and furnishing fabrics
Packaging, containers, boxes, covers or labels
If it is intended to show the image of The Queen or a
Member of the Royal Family with that of a person who
is not a Member of the Royal Family, then it is suggested
that specific advice should be sought from the Lord
Chamberlain’s Office.
Images of Members of the Royal Family under the age of
18 should not be used for commercial purposes.
6. Copyright
Any question of copyright involved in the reproduction
of a Royal Image must be settled by the prospective user
directly with the copyright holder.
Nothing in these rules gives any right to the use of any
particular Image.
7. National Occasions
It is only proposed to vary these rules on occasional
events of national importance.
Lord Chamberlain’s Office
Buckingham Palace

[WoodleyRoyal]

The use of the word ‘Royal’ in a company or business name is prohibited, as is the use of the following associated words: King, Queen, Prince, Princess, Duke, Duchess, His/Her Majesty, and Windsor. The inclusion of such words could mislead the public by falsely suggesting an association with the Royal family, which would unfairly boost the image and status of a business.
Should you wish to include any of the aforementioned words in a company or business name, you must seek permission from the Cabinet Office in London, the Scottish Government in Edinburgh, or the Welsh Assembly Government in Cardiff, depending in which UK jurisdiction your business is registered. You will have to include relevant information to support your case, e.g. the history or your business and/or future plans; a relevant association with the Government or Royal family; the relation of the sensitive word to a street name or surname; your business is an established public house (or similar) that has been using a particular business name for a considerable period of time.
Similarly, using Royal names, residences and emblems on company products and promotional materials is prohibited because it suggests the company supplies goods to, or is endorsed by, the Royal family. These rules will only vary in exceptional circumstances, and permission must be granted by the Lord Chamberlain’s Office.

[sandman]

The use of the word ‘Royal’ in a company or business name is prohibited, as is the use of the following associated words: King, Queen, Prince, Princess, Duke, Duchess, His/Her Majesty, and Windsor. The inclusion of such words could mislead the public by falsely suggesting an association with the Royal family, which would unfairly boost the image and status of a business.
Should you wish to include any of the aforementioned words in a company or business name, you must seek permission from the Cabinet Office in London, the Scottish Government in Edinburgh, or the Welsh Assembly Government in Cardiff, depending in which UK jurisdiction your business is registered. You will have to include relevant information to support your case, e.g. the history or your business and/or future plans; a relevant association with the Government or Royal family; the relation of the sensitive word to a street name or surname; your business is an established public house (or similar) that has been using a particular business name for a considerable period of time.
Similarly, using Royal names, residences and emblems on company products and promotional materials is prohibited because it suggests the company supplies goods to, or is endorsed by, the Royal family. These rules will only vary in exceptional circumstances, and permission must be granted by the Lord Chamberlain’s Office.

Really? Being associated with those racist, Nazi loving, adulterers would supposedly "boost" the image of a business.