How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

[No Fixed Abode]

I must remember that whoever wins the league isn't the best team as those with a deeper knowledge of the game will know that isn't the case.

[No Fixed Abode]

I've got some stuff on team performance I might graph and chuck up here tonight if I can be arsed.

Will it show that Reading have improved from the dip they had in form but overall they haven't improved under Brian as his points per game is lower?

[Maneki Neko]

Stats don't lie. Plus you're assuming Clarke wouldn't have turned it around.

But he wanted to leave...
How was he supposed to turn it round from West London?

The club agreed to the Fulham approach, Sir Steve didn't approach them. BM walked out on his contract at the gooners, there is no loyalty in football ...

I didn't say there was.

[Maneki Neko]

I was watching the Agenda the other night and a politician said "Once you try and get personal in a debate you've lost the argument"

I'm not the only who doesn't think Reading haven't improved under McDermott.

lots of people have said lots of things over the years.
doesn't necessarily make em all true.

[Maneki Neko]

I've got some stuff on team performance I might graph and chuck up here tonight if I can be arsed.

Will it show that Reading have improved from the dip they had in form but overall they haven't improved under Brian as his points per game is lower?

what if you include all of his championship games including when he was here before?!

eh?!

whats the oxf*rd stats for that you dentally blinding muthafukka

[No Fixed Abode]

I've got some stuff on team performance I might graph and chuck up here tonight if I can be arsed.

Will it show that Reading have improved from the dip they had in form but overall they haven't improved under Brian as his points per game is lower?

what if you include all of his championship games including when he was here before?!

eh?!

whats the oxf*rd stats for that you dentally blinding muthafukka

You can't compare Brian's previous reign as manager. Totally different team playing totally different teams. A fairer comparison would be to compare this season I would have thought.....wouldn't you?

[OLLIE KEARNS]

I'm listening but all I'm getting from Brian fans is 'we're improving' when the stats don't back that up at the moment.

It's all ifs and Nicky Butts with you guys.

How does 2 losses in 12 after 6 losses in 7 not constitute an improvement?!

Clarke this season 1.5 points per game
McDermott 1.27 points per game.

How does than constitute an improvement?

Are you ignoring Steve Clarke's 1 point per game from last season because it wouldn't be fair to judge a manager who had just taken over a poorly performing side ? At least not in the short term. I think that is a sensible approach if so...

[Maneki Neko]

Will it show that Reading have improved from the dip they had in form but overall they haven't improved under Brian as his points per game is lower?

what if you include all of his championship games including when he was here before?!

eh?!

whats the oxf*rd stats for that you dentally blinding muthafukka

You can't compare Brian's previous reign as manager. Totally different team playing totally different teams. A fairer comparison would be to compare this season I would have thought.....wouldn't you?

Nibble



this fishing shit is easy!

[Vision]

I've got some stuff on team performance I might graph and chuck up here tonight if I can be arsed.

Will it show that Reading have improved from the dip they had in form but overall they haven't improved under Brian as his points per game is lower?

But he has improved on the form record when he took over.

Whether you take 6 or 8 games as a form guide then his last 6 or 8 are an improvement on Clarke's last 6 or 8 game run.

Stats don't lie Kes.

[No Fixed Abode]

I've got some stuff on team performance I might graph and chuck up here tonight if I can be arsed.

Will it show that Reading have improved from the dip they had in form but overall they haven't improved under Brian as his points per game is lower?

But he has improved on the form record when he took over.

Whether you take 6 or 8 games as a form guide then his last 6 or 8 are an improvement on Clarke's last 6 or 8 game run.

Stats don't lie Kes.

So the only way it can be proven is points per game for each manager. Thank you.

[One8Seven1*]

I'm still bemused by his tactics. How can you play one up front at home against Rotherham, especially when we have nothing to play for in the league? Stick with a formation that works, use it to gain some confidence, momentum and familiarity ready for next season, and try and end the season with a few more highs!

[Maneki Neko]

Will it show that Reading have improved from the dip they had in form but overall they haven't improved under Brian as his points per game is lower?

But he has improved on the form record when he took over.

Whether you take 6 or 8 games as a form guide then his last 6 or 8 are an improvement on Clarke's last 6 or 8 game run.

Stats don't lie Kes.

So the only way it can be proven is points per game for each manager. Thank you.

why am I not allowed to use his stats from before, "because its a different team etc" but you are allowed to directly compare stats comparing brian and steve, despite being different teams, with brian having lost clarkes two leading goalscorers?


WHY, I ask you

[Maneki Neko]

I'm still bemused by his tactics. How can you play one up front at home against Rotherham, especially when we have nothing to play for in the league? Stick with a formation that works, use it to gain some confidence, momentum and familiarity ready for next season, and try and end the season with a few more highs!

WNG!

[Ian Royal]

I'm still bemused by his tactics. How can you play one up front at home against Rotherham, especially when we have nothing to play for in the league? Stick with a formation that works, use it to gain some confidence, momentum and familiarity ready for next season, and try and end the season with a few more highs!

I think it's supposed to be 4-3-3 in attack.

Not there yet, but progress occurring.

[Maneki Neko]

he's just trying to find a way

[No Fixed Abode]

I'm still bemused by his tactics. How can you play one up front at home against Rotherham, especially when we have nothing to play for in the league? Stick with a formation that works, use it to gain some confidence, momentum and familiarity ready for next season, and try and end the season with a few more highs!

I think it's supposed to be 4-3-3 in attack.

Not there yet, but progress occurring.

Progress in going backwards it seems.

[Winston Smith]

I must remember that whoever wins the league isn't the best team as those with a deeper knowledge of the game will know that isn't the case.

you made a concious decision to be a football supporter from the outside meaning you have no other choice but to rely on Jeff Stelling, Opta stats etc for your total football knowledge. There are many people on here who take time out of their life to go to football games, observe the match going on and then have much more information with which to formulate opinions with.

It's a bit like getting into a debate on the best films when you made a choice to not to the cinema or watch TV. you are relient on 2nd hand information when others immerse themselves in it and are able to come to their own informed view.

[Longhorn1970]

I'm not conceding anything, there is just no point in engaging an obvious troll who can only be bothered to repeat the same point with his fingers in his ears when someone offers a valid counter-argument.

But if you want to feel like you've "won", indulge yourself. It's playground level stuff m8.

Give it up ! The club were willing to let Sir Steve go because they thought they could make a few quid in the deal as Fulham would have to pay up his contract or at least offer comp, the figures banded around were £500k to £1.25m. The press coverage was clearly intended to stir things up and it backfired as SC wanted to stay. The mood changed (not helped by a dip in form) and the result against a poor QPR didn't help (ignoring al Habsi howler). The non footballing owners panic and the club end up paying up SC's contract, that happens in football, it's not the first time and won't be the last.
I personally was surprised we took a backward step given who was available at the time but the owners are clearly trimming the wage bill and some higher profile names probably priced themselves out, we move on ..

If he wanted to stay, why did he go and speak to them?

Same reason BM walked away from his gooners contract at a guess ?

[Longhorn1970]

Will it show that Reading have improved from the dip they had in form but overall they haven't improved under Brian as his points per game is lower?

But he has improved on the form record when he took over.

Whether you take 6 or 8 games as a form guide then his last 6 or 8 are an improvement on Clarke's last 6 or 8 game run.

Stats don't lie Kes.

So the only way it can be proven is points per game for each manager. Thank you.

Lol - don't worry about things you can't change ...

[RoyalJames101]

I'm still bemused by his tactics. How can you play one up front at home against Rotherham, especially when we have nothing to play for in the league? Stick with a formation that works, use it to gain some confidence, momentum and familiarity ready for next season, and try and end the season with a few more highs!

Played the same formation as Saturday. Won both games.