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Best Footballer Ever

by Handsome Man » 03 May 2017 13:33

Christiano Ronaldo's genius is in the news again and he has been compared with Pele and Best:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39788520

Who is the best footballer ever then? I would always have said that it was Pele, but Messi and Ronaldo must come close now.

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Re: Best Footballer Ever

by NewCorkSeth » 03 May 2017 13:37

Handsome Man Christiano Ronaldo's genius is in the news again and he has been compared with Pele and Best:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39788520

Who is the best footballer ever then? I would always have said that it was Pele, but Messi and Ronaldo must come close now.

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by Handsome Man » 03 May 2017 13:42

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Handsome Man Christiano Ronaldo's genius is in the news again and he has been compared with Pele and Best:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39788520

Who is the best footballer ever then? I would always have said that it was Pele, but Messi and Ronaldo must come close now.

Robin Friday?


I had to restrain myself from mentioning Trevor Senior

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Re: Best Footballer Ever

by BR0B0T » 03 May 2017 13:50

Handsome Man I would always have said that it was Pele, e now.


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Re: Best Footballer Ever

by Silver Fox » 03 May 2017 13:52

Pele's not referred to as the black Glenn Little for nothing you know


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Re: Best Footballer Ever

by Winston Smith » 03 May 2017 14:04

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Handsome Man I would always have said that it was Pele, e now.


over8d thread :arrow:


I am with you on this. Being the best at a time when opposition players were out of shape drunks and the game was played on muddy fields does not mean the best.

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by jd82 » 03 May 2017 14:08

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Handsome Man I would always have said that it was Pele, e now.


over8d thread :arrow:


I am with you on this. Being the best at a time when opposition players were out of shape drunks and the game was played on muddy fields does not mean the best.


but it's not like he travelled back in time to play them.. he was subject to the same conditions and was better than everyone else, in much the same was Ronaldo is now..

but yeah - he'd probably get marshalled out of the game by Gunter these days.

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by Winston Smith » 03 May 2017 14:10

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over8d thread :arrow:


I am with you on this. Being the best at a time when opposition players were out of shape drunks and the game was played on muddy fields does not mean the best.


but it's not like he travelled back in time to play them.. he was subject to the same conditions and was better than everyone else, in much the same was Ronaldo is now..


I get that in a pound for pound kind of way you can say he is the best, but if Pele was put out onto a pitch now he would be wheezing and struggling within 25 minutes due to the pace of the game, and would be subbed off again. Though afterwards he would of course tell everyone he scored 5 goals in the match.

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Re: Best Footballer Ever

by jd82 » 03 May 2017 14:11

yeah.. see the edit


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by Sutekh » 03 May 2017 14:22

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over8d thread :arrow:


I am with you on this. Being the best at a time when opposition players were out of shape drunks and the game was played on muddy fields does not mean the best.


Put Pele, Best, Puskas, Bobby Charlton, Cruyff, Dalglish, Jairzinho, Moore plus countless others in their prime into today's game and more than likely they'd be a match or eclipse the likes of Messi, Ronaldo etc. or perhaps they would not. Who knows.

I'd like to think some would at least be as good if not better given the improved fitness, medical, training techniques - plus the fact the FIFA's fiddling about has largely destroyed the art of tackling.

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Re: Best Footballer Ever

by 6ft Kerplunk » 03 May 2017 14:30

Pretty sure most people in the country would be including Maradona in the discussion if he hadn't out jumped Shilton to punched one in. If Ronaldo didn't have that spoilt child face when anything slightly goes against him he'd be a lot more likeable. I'd have Pele fourth on the list at the moment behind Those two and Messi. Not sure which order tbh, easier to decide once Ronaldo and Messi have finished playing.

Doesn't Pele count goals in friendlies and exhibitions in his total?

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Re: Best Footballer Ever

by BR0B0T » 03 May 2017 14:32

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Re: Best Footballer Ever

by Vision » 03 May 2017 14:41

Obviously cross generational comparisons are impossible really but all in all I'd go for Maradona.

Made average sides into exceptional ones during a time when defences generally ruled and kicking lumps out of the so-called star players was considered perfectly acceptable.


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Re: Best Footballer Ever

by NewCorkSeth » 03 May 2017 14:54

Zidane not getting a mention? Ronaldo (original) would have been the greatest with no injuries.

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Re: Best Footballer Ever

by 6ft Kerplunk » 03 May 2017 15:12

Zidane is in the next tier down with the likes of Cruyff for company.

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by Ark Royal » 03 May 2017 15:14

In context, Pele for me. Did things on a football field that I have not seen attempted before or since: the dummy against Uruguay in Mexico; playing one-twos off Bobby Moore's legs. :shock: Two-footed, great in the air, strong as fu ck and hard as nails as well. The perfect footballer. Zidane is as close as anyone recently to being his equal.

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Re: Best Footballer Ever

by From Despair To Where? » 03 May 2017 16:42

For me, it's a toss up between Sonny Pike and Cherno Samba.

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Re: Best Footballer Ever

by NewCorkSeth » 03 May 2017 17:59

6ft Kerplunk Zidane is in the next tier down with the likes of Cruyff for company.

Feels wrong to consider them lesser in any way

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by genome » 03 May 2017 18:34

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over8d thread :arrow:


I am with you on this. Being the best at a time when opposition players were out of shape drunks and the game was played on muddy fields does not mean the best.


Put Pele, Best, Puskas, Bobby Charlton, Cruyff, Dalglish, Jairzinho, Moore plus countless others in their prime into today's game and more than likely they'd be a match or eclipse the likes of Messi, Ronaldo etc. or perhaps they would not.


Thanks for the insight Sutekh

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Re: Best Footballer Ever

by tmesis » 03 May 2017 22:20

Sutekh I'd like to think some would at least be as good if not better given the improved fitness, medical, training techniques - plus the fact the FIFA's fiddling about has largely destroyed the art of tackling.

The "they weren't as fit" argument is daft. It's like saying Ayrton Senna wasn't as good a driver as Lewis Hamilton, because F1 cars being slower then made it easier back then.

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