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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by Forbury Lion » 04 Sep 2019 09:10

karbota Facts, back in 106 our record breaking season we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English/ British squad.
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English /British squad.
How many times were we relegated under English managers?
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had a manager born of Irish parents and only became strong enough to win the title/gain promotion thanks to the investment of cash by the Russian majority share owner.

The 106 squad did not have a majority of English/British players. even if you add the Irish players into that bracket it still isn't a majority.

11 English players 32% of the squad
13 British players 38% of the squad
17 British and Irish players 50% of the squad
34 Players in total

1 United States GK Marcus Hahnemann
2 Scotland DF Graeme Murty
3 England DF Nicky Shorey
4 England MF Steve Sidwell
5 Senegal DF Ibrahima Sonko
6 Iceland MF Brynjar Gunnarsson
7 England MF Glen Little
8 England FW Leroy Lita
10 Republic of Ireland MF Stephen Hunt
11 Wales MF John Oster
12 England FW Dave Kitson
14 England DF John Halls
15 England MF James Harper
16 Iceland DF Ívar Ingimarsson
17 United States MF Bobby Convey
19 Republic of Ireland FW Kevin Doyle
21 Republic of Ireland GK Graham Stack
23 England DF Chris Makin
24 Republic of Ireland FW Shane Long
28 England GK Jamie Young
31 England FW Simon Cox
32 Australia GK Adam Federici
34 England DF Scott Golbourne

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by Hendo » 04 Sep 2019 09:23

karbota Facts, back in 106 our record breaking season we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English/ British squad.
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English /British squad.



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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by under the tin » 04 Sep 2019 09:36

Read the thread title, and Bananarama jumped straight into my head...
Talkin Italian...

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by Vision » 04 Sep 2019 10:02

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karbota Facts, back in 106 our record breaking season we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English/ British squad.
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English /British squad.
How many times were we relegated under English managers?
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had a manager born of Irish parents and only became strong enough to win the title/gain promotion thanks to the investment of cash by the Russian majority share owner.

The 106 squad did not have a majority of English/British players. even if you add the Irish players into that bracket it still isn't a majority.

11 English players 32% of the squad
13 British players 38% of the squad
17 British and Irish players 50% of the squad
34 Players in total

1 United States GK Marcus Hahnemann
2 Scotland DF Graeme Murty
3 England DF Nicky Shorey
4 England MF Steve Sidwell
5 Senegal DF Ibrahima Sonko
6 Iceland MF Brynjar Gunnarsson
7 England MF Glen Little
8 England FW Leroy Lita
10 Republic of Ireland MF Stephen Hunt
11 Wales MF John Oster
12 England FW Dave Kitson
14 England DF John Halls
15 England MF James Harper
16 Iceland DF Ívar Ingimarsson
17 United States MF Bobby Convey
19 Republic of Ireland FW Kevin Doyle
21 Republic of Ireland GK Graham Stack
23 England DF Chris Makin
24 Republic of Ireland FW Shane Long
28 England GK Jamie Young
31 England FW Simon Cox
32 Australia GK Adam Federici
34 England DF Scott Golbourne


Far be it for me to defend in any way the OP but there are not 34 players in that squad Forbes ;-)

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by karbota » 04 Sep 2019 11:49

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karbota Facts, back in 106 our record breaking season we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English/ British squad.
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English /British squad.
How many times were we relegated under English managers?
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had a manager born of Irish parents and only became strong enough to win the title/gain promotion thanks to the investment of cash by the Russian majority share owner.

The 106 squad did not have a majority of English/British players. even if you add the Irish players into that bracket it still isn't a majority.

11 English players 32% of the squad
13 British players 38% of the squad
17 British and Irish players 50% of the squad
34 Players in total

1 United States GK Marcus Hahnemann
2 Scotland DF Graeme Murty
3 England DF Nicky Shorey
4 England MF Steve Sidwell
5 Senegal DF Ibrahima Sonko
6 Iceland MF Brynjar Gunnarsson
7 England MF Glen Little
8 England FW Leroy Lita
10 Republic of Ireland MF Stephen Hunt
11 Wales MF John Oster
12 England FW Dave Kitson
14 England DF John Halls
15 England MF James Harper
16 Iceland DF Ívar Ingimarsson
17 United States MF Bobby Convey
19 Republic of Ireland FW Kevin Doyle
21 Republic of Ireland GK Graham Stack
23 England DF Chris Makin
24 Republic of Ireland FW Shane Long
28 England GK Jamie Young
31 England FW Simon Cox
32 Australia GK Adam Federici
34 England DF Scott Golbourne


Far be it for me to defend in any way the OP but there are not 34 players in that squad Forbes ;-)


What is the British Isles?

"The British Isles is a geographical term which includes two large islands, Great Britain and Ireland, and 5,000 small islands, most notably the Isle of Man which has its own parliament and laws".

Brian Mc Dermott was born in Slough Berkshire England The British Isles.


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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by Sutekh » 04 Sep 2019 13:40

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karbota Facts, back in 106 our record breaking season we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English/ British squad.
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English /British squad.
How many times were we relegated under English managers?
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had a manager born of Irish parents and only became strong enough to win the title/gain promotion thanks to the investment of cash by the Russian majority share owner.

The 106 squad did not have a majority of English/British players. even if you add the Irish players into that bracket it still isn't a majority.

11 English players 32% of the squad
13 British players 38% of the squad
17 British and Irish players 50% of the squad
34 Players in total

1 United States GK Marcus Hahnemann
2 Scotland DF Graeme Murty
3 England DF Nicky Shorey
4 England MF Steve Sidwell
5 Senegal DF Ibrahima Sonko
6 Iceland MF Brynjar Gunnarsson
7 England MF Glen Little
8 England FW Leroy Lita
10 Republic of Ireland MF Stephen Hunt
11 Wales MF John Oster
12 England FW Dave Kitson
14 England DF John Halls
15 England MF James Harper
16 Iceland DF Ívar Ingimarsson
17 United States MF Bobby Convey
19 Republic of Ireland FW Kevin Doyle
21 Republic of Ireland GK Graham Stack
23 England DF Chris Makin
24 Republic of Ireland FW Shane Long
28 England GK Jamie Young
31 England FW Simon Cox
32 Australia GK Adam Federici
34 England DF Scott Golbourne


Far be it for me to defend in any way the OP but there are not 34 players in that squad Forbes ;-)


So who are the missing 11? Baradji and Eric Chuckwynelu are the 2 obvious ones I know of that weren’t British/Irish but then that’s countered by Dobson and Halls

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by JamieY26 » 04 Sep 2019 14:43

karbota Facts, back in 106 our record breaking season we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English/ British squad.
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English /British squad.


Unless I am mistaken, we fielded 6 British players against Charlton with a further 4 British player on the bench.... Majority British.... not that I think it makes a blind bit of difference where a player comes from!

I think its time you accepted that the game has changed... I haven't looked, but I would imagine the club you are lusting after does exist further down the leagues.

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by karbota » 04 Sep 2019 15:13

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karbota Facts, back in 106 our record breaking season we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English/ British squad.
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English /British squad.
How many times were we relegated under English managers?
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had a manager born of Irish parents and only became strong enough to win the title/gain promotion thanks to the investment of cash by the Russian majority share owner.

The 106 squad did not have a majority of English/British players. even if you add the Irish players into that bracket it still isn't a majority.

11 English players 32% of the squad
13 British players 38% of the squad
17 British and Irish players 50% of the squad
34 Players in total

1 United States GK Marcus Hahnemann
2 Scotland DF Graeme Murty
3 England DF Nicky Shorey
4 England MF Steve Sidwell
5 Senegal DF Ibrahima Sonko
6 Iceland MF Brynjar Gunnarsson
7 England MF Glen Little
8 England FW Leroy Lita
10 Republic of Ireland MF Stephen Hunt
11 Wales MF John Oster
12 England FW Dave Kitson
14 England DF John Halls
15 England MF James Harper
16 Iceland DF Ívar Ingimarsson
17 United States MF Bobby Convey
19 Republic of Ireland FW Kevin Doyle
21 Republic of Ireland GK Graham Stack
23 England DF Chris Makin
24 Republic of Ireland FW Shane Long
28 England GK Jamie Young
31 England FW Simon Cox
32 Australia GK Adam Federici
34 England DF Scott Golbourne


Far be it for me to defend in any way the OP but there are not 34 players in that squad Forbes ;-)


1 United States GK Marcus Hahnemann
2 Scotland DF Graeme Murty[note 1]
3 England DF Nicky Shorey
4 Mali MF Kalifa Cissé[note 2]
5 Senegal DF Ibrahima Sonko
6 Iceland MF Brynjar Gunnarsson
7 England MF Glen Little
8 England FW Leroy Lita
9 Republic of Ireland FW Kevin Doyle
10 Republic of Ireland MF Stephen Hunt
11 Wales MF John Oster[note 3]
12 England FW Dave Kitson
14 England DF John Halls
15 England MF James Harper
16 Iceland DF Ívar Ingimarsson
17 United States MF Bobby Convey
No. Position Player
18 Nigeria DF Sam Sodje[note 4]
19 England DF Liam Rosenior
20 Ivory Coast MF Emerse Faé[note 5]
21 Republic of Ireland GK Graham Stack[note 6]
22 Cameroon DF André Bikey
23 Ecuador DF Ulises de la Cruz
24 Republic of Ireland FW Shane Long
25 Republic of Ireland DF Alan Bennett
28 Czech Republic MF Marek Matějovský
29 England DF Michael Duberry
30 Mali MF Jimmy Kébé[note 7]
32 Australia GK Adam Federici
33 England DF Scott Golbourne
34 England MF James Henry[note 8]
35 Scotland DF Alex Pearce[note 9]

Correct the full squad was 35, 18 being British, thank you.

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by Forbury Lion » 04 Sep 2019 16:14

How many appearances did Jimmy Kebe make in our 106 season?


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by Franchise FC » 04 Sep 2019 16:37

Forbury Lion How many appearances did Jimmy Kebe make in our 106 season?

He appears when he wants

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by muirinho » 04 Sep 2019 17:34

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Forbury Lion How many times were we relegated under English managers?
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had a manager born of Irish parents and only became strong enough to win the title/gain promotion thanks to the investment of cash by the Russian majority share owner.

The 106 squad did not have a majority of English/British players. even if you add the Irish players into that bracket it still isn't a majority.

11 English players 32% of the squad
13 British players 38% of the squad
17 British and Irish players 50% of the squad
34 Players in total

1 United States GK Marcus Hahnemann
2 Scotland DF Graeme Murty
3 England DF Nicky Shorey
4 England MF Steve Sidwell
5 Senegal DF Ibrahima Sonko
6 Iceland MF Brynjar Gunnarsson
7 England MF Glen Little
8 England FW Leroy Lita
10 Republic of Ireland MF Stephen Hunt
11 Wales MF John Oster
12 England FW Dave Kitson
14 England DF John Halls
15 England MF James Harper
16 Iceland DF Ívar Ingimarsson
17 United States MF Bobby Convey
19 Republic of Ireland FW Kevin Doyle
21 Republic of Ireland GK Graham Stack
23 England DF Chris Makin
24 Republic of Ireland FW Shane Long
28 England GK Jamie Young
31 England FW Simon Cox
32 Australia GK Adam Federici
34 England DF Scott Golbourne


Far be it for me to defend in any way the OP but there are not 34 players in that squad Forbes ;-)


So who are the missing 11? Baradji and Eric Chuckwynelu are the 2 obvious ones I know of that weren’t British/Irish but then that’s countered by Dobson and Halls


Halls is already listed. Note Jamie Young above is Australian, not English.

Going from Wikipedia, the following players are missing:

14 - Simieon howell - Jamaica - out on season loan
18 - Darren Campbell - Scotland (mostly out on loan)
18 - Michael dobson - england (loan in)
20 - Jonny Hayes - Ireland (reserve team)
22 - Peter Castle - England - mostly out on loan
25 - Johnny Mullins - England (reserve team)
26 - curtis Osano - Kenya (reserve team)
27 - Aaron Brown - England (only there for 5 weeks)
27 - Ryan Catney - NI - out on season loan
29 - Chukwunyelu - Nigeria
30 - Baradji - France
33 - Conor Sinnott - Ireland

Including these (and swapping Jamie Young to australian) I get

England - 14/35 - 40%
UK - 18/35 - 51.4%

So - yes, if you include all the players that were registered with the club, even if they weren't all there at the same time, or never played for the first team, you can scrape it over the 50% for UK players. Not England players though.

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by Mid Sussex Royal » 04 Sep 2019 19:26

karbota Facts, back in 106 our record breaking season we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English/ British squad.
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English /British squad.


Facts - as did every other championship club back then. The game has moved on.

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by Zip » 04 Sep 2019 19:31

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karbota Facts, back in 106 our record breaking season we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English/ British squad.
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English /British squad.


Facts - as did every other championship club back then. The game has moved on.


Yes but back then it was so much better because we didn’t have many of those horrible foreigners. I want my club to take back control.


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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by EverHopeful » 04 Sep 2019 20:06

karbota Phil Parkinson is now a free agent, mad dog Allen is now a free agent. Its time to forget the shiny shoes and greasy hair mercenaries, time to put a bit of passion back into our club, also time to put the club back into English ownership. please Sir John, please buy back our heritage our identity, our beloved Club.


why is anyone bothering to reply to this post - irrelavent stupid post

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by Forbury Lion » 05 Sep 2019 08:48

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karbota Phil Parkinson is now a free agent, mad dog Allen is now a free agent. Its time to forget the shiny shoes and greasy hair mercenaries, time to put a bit of passion back into our club, also time to put the club back into English ownership. please Sir John, please buy back our heritage our identity, our beloved Club.


why is anyone bothering to reply to this post - irrelavent stupid post
You tell us - you just replied to it.

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by 2 world wars, 1 world cup » 05 Sep 2019 09:13

i britain 2 b about british too

no more muslamic ray guns

no more forren people

good english people like mr majeski, or however u spell dat polish word

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by Forbury Lion » 05 Sep 2019 11:51

Continuing on the theme of stupid racist logic...... You have to stop the Irish coming over here and having kids, like Brian Dermot's parents then you have more opportunists for the English players and managers like Brian Dermot :roll:

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by Old Man Andrews » 05 Sep 2019 13:00

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karbota Phil Parkinson is now a free agent, mad dog Allen is now a free agent. Its time to forget the shiny shoes and greasy hair mercenaries, time to put a bit of passion back into our club, also time to put the club back into English ownership. please Sir John, please buy back our heritage our identity, our beloved Club.


why is anyone bothering to reply to this post - irrelavent stupid post

You just replied to it.........

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by John Smith » 05 Sep 2019 13:34

Robert de Niro's waiting...talking Italian

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Re: Phil Parkinson is waiting.

by RoyalBlue » 05 Sep 2019 14:19

karbota Facts, back in 106 our record breaking season we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English/ British squad.
The last time we were promoted in 2011-2012 we had an English manager, English Chairman and a majority English /British squad.


Who let Dim Tellor on here? Clearly we won't survive in the Championship with a Portuguese Manager and all his Portuguese coaches who know nothing about Championship Football, not to mention (well only every so often) the Chinese owners!

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