Euro 2020

[Brum Royal]

When England beat the Czech's 1-0, a lot of people moaned about what heavy work we made of it, and that, although we were through we didn't look that good.

Well, after the Czech result against the Dutch there is now a different complexion on England's victory over them; not only the only team to beat the Czech's but also the only team to shut out Schick (and to not concede a goal to them).........as they say in horse racing, the form has been franked.

Somewhat agree, but the red card did certainly attribute to the Dutch downfall.

Not that the Dutch looked that good anyway.

+1 to both these posts, was going to post similar myself, before catching up on the thread this morning.

[Stranded]

Yep. Didn’t actually think they were great in Euro 2016 though - even if they did win it and they lost in the last 16 (?) in 2018

Feels strange to say it given Ronaldo’s obvious qualities but I genuinely think they could end up a better side when he goes as they’re so over reliant on him, feels like the other players are scared of him

Portugal were awful in the last Euro's and were possibly the least deserved winners of a major tournament in living memory, and I include the Greece shock in that as at least they won games in the group.

Portugal won in 2016 on the back of 3 draws in the group stage, a 117th minute winner in the 2nd and a penalty shoot-out in the quarters before finally winning a game in 90mins in the semis (against a knackered Welsh side).

They then won the final with a 109th minute winner after possibly the most turgid final I've had the misfortune to watch.

So yeah, they won it, fair play and you'd be delighted if your team did but to be the only team in history to win a tournament and only win 1 game in normal time, and none in the group stage is hardly amazing. At least they won a game in the groups this time.

Wales were not knackered. We were missing Ramsey(our best player at that tournament) and Davies in the semi final due to suspension and had no squad depth at all to replace them. They beat us 2-0 fair and square.

Fine but doesn't really take away from the point that Portugal were rubbish in 2016 and very fortunate to end up winning the tournament given they only won one game in 90mins. The luckiest bit being getting out of a group without winning a game.

[Brum Royal]

When will the commentators stop saying “ooo, this is Ronaldo territory”?

He has scored from 1 of his last 52 free kicks in major tournaments.

Yep, thinking that myself. For the hype surrounding his free kicks, a large proportion seem to just hit the wall

Commentary were poor tonight. Dixon’s input is very limited

To be fair, whilst Matterface didn't use the 1 in 52 stat, he did at least mention that Ronaldo has a poor record from free kicks given how strong he is in open play for his goal scoring.

[Stranded]

When England beat the Czech's 1-0, a lot of people moaned about what heavy work we made of it, and that, although we were through we didn't look that good.

Well, after the Czech result against the Dutch there is now a different complexion on England's victory over them; not only the only team to beat the Czech's but also the only team to shut out Schick (and to not concede a goal to them).........as they say in horse racing, the form has been franked.

Somewhat agree, but the red card did certainly attribute to the Dutch downfall.

Not that the Dutch looked that good anyway.

+1 to both these posts, was going to post similar myself, before catching up on the thread this morning.

Aye, the Dutch were the better side until the goal and that 1 on 1 has to be one of the worst attempts to convert one in many a years, As soon as the red card happened though, they absolutely fell apart and fair play to the Czech's, they just picked them off from that point on.

[Brum Royal]

On miles travelled, this is quite interesting:

Euro 2020 air miles
Includes miles travelled for three group stage games and journey to last-16 venue for the teams still in the competition.

Switzerland - 7,245 miles
Wales - 5,382
Sweden - 5,362
Belgium - 4,824
Czech Republic - 4,646
Ukraine - 3,757
Portugal - 3,696
Austria - 3,495
Croatia - 1,828
Spain - 1,530
France - 1,173
Holland - 1,111
Italy - 898
Germany - 572
Denmark - 395
England - 0

[6ft Kerplunk]

When will the commentators stop saying “ooo, this is Ronaldo territory”?

He has scored from 1 of his last 52 free kicks in major tournaments.

Yep, thinking that myself. For the hype surrounding his free kicks, a large proportion seem to just hit the wall

But he gets the camera on him for 2 or 3 minutes muscle flex time and that's what its all about.

[Zip]

Portugal were awful in the last Euro's and were possibly the least deserved winners of a major tournament in living memory, and I include the Greece shock in that as at least they won games in the group.

Portugal won in 2016 on the back of 3 draws in the group stage, a 117th minute winner in the 2nd and a penalty shoot-out in the quarters before finally winning a game in 90mins in the semis (against a knackered Welsh side).

They then won the final with a 109th minute winner after possibly the most turgid final I've had the misfortune to watch.

So yeah, they won it, fair play and you'd be delighted if your team did but to be the only team in history to win a tournament and only win 1 game in normal time, and none in the group stage is hardly amazing. At least they won a game in the groups this time.

Wales were not knackered. We were missing Ramsey(our best player at that tournament) and Davies in the semi final due to suspension and had no squad depth at all to replace them. They beat us 2-0 fair and square.

Fine but doesn't really take away from the point that Portugal were rubbish in 2016 and very fortunate to end up winning the tournament given they only won one game in 90mins. The luckiest bit being getting out of a group without winning a game.

They didn’t lose a game in the tournament either. They seemed defensively set up but overall were a decent team. Certainly a better side than the Greece team that won in 2004.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Wales were not knackered. We were missing Ramsey(our best player at that tournament) and Davies in the semi final due to suspension and had no squad depth at all to replace them. They beat us 2-0 fair and square.

Fine but doesn't really take away from the point that Portugal were rubbish in 2016 and very fortunate to end up winning the tournament given they only won one game in 90mins. The luckiest bit being getting out of a group without winning a game.

They didn’t lose a game in the tournament either. They seemed defensively set up but overall were a decent team. Certainly a better side than the Greece team that won in 2004.

The fact they were able to get out of the group at all with the results they had is a prime example of why the new format is flawed. They were rubbish. They qualified in third again this year and got what they deserved.

[Franchise FC]

Somewhat agree, but the red card did certainly attribute to the Dutch downfall.

Not that the Dutch looked that good anyway.

+1 to both these posts, was going to post similar myself, before catching up on the thread this morning.

Aye, the Dutch were the better side until the goal and that 1 on 1 has to be one of the worst attempts to convert one in many a years, As soon as the red card happened though, they absolutely fell apart and fair play to the Czech's, they just picked them off from that point on.

I have a feeling the one on one would've been ruled out for a foul even if he'd put the ball in - but we'll never know now

[Silver Fox]

Is this the most united HNA? has ever been?

Nah there was a time when Vic was being a massive racist and everyone turned on him, great day. There was far more vitriol in that.

Ironically* Vic was always a strong believer in the cause of fvck right off ITV

[URZZZZ]

Thing is that has been their game plan for about 10 years now and its worked, hard to get away from that style of play whilst Ronaldo is still in the side.
Problem now is that Ronaldo hasn't quite got the legs he used to. Obviously still and incredible player but he's not going to burst past a defender with a dazzling bit of skill like he used to.

Yep. Didn’t actually think they were great in Euro 2016 though - even if they did win it and they lost in the last 16 (?) in 2018

Feels strange to say it given Ronaldo’s obvious qualities but I genuinely think they could end up a better side when he goes as they’re so over reliant on him, feels like the other players are scared of him

They then won the final with a 109th minute winner after possibly the most turgid final I've had the misfortune to watch.

I’m jealous you got to miss our last playoff final!

[RG30]

Managed to get 2 Cat 1’s for England Germany tomorrow

[Zip]

Managed to get 2 Cat 1’s for England Germany tomorrow

Is it 40,000 capacity for tomorrow night?

[RG30]

Yes something like that might be 45k, definitely double from Saturday

[bcubed]

Managed to get 2 Cat 1’s for England Germany tomorrow

Out of interest what time did you try to log on to the portal?
I tried and waited an hour by which time nothing left

[NathStPaul]

Morata gets another start for Spain. Do they legitimately not have any other strikers?

[Pepe the Horseman]

Reckon this one goes to pens.

[Simmops]

Managed to get 2 Cat 1’s for England Germany tomorrow

+1

got club wembley me

[Simmops]

Morata gets another start for Spain. Do they legitimately not have any other strikers?

Yes, Moreno who is infinitely better

[Simmops]

Reckon this one goes to pens.

Going a Spain loss for this