MATCHWATCH : Derby County (h)

[Millsy]

Absolutely. Why not jump with Davies ? He may not have been able to direct the header so we’ll if he was under pressure

Wow, just seen the replay. Is that a zonal thing? Dunno.

Mark a man and you stay with him, jump when he jumps etc. Zonal and you only focus on the ball, a little oblivious to whomever else around you or what they're doing. If they read the ball quicker than you happen to, you're doomed - perhaps that's what Holmes was doing. Not a defender though, not my place to comment.

Does seem just bad defending from the normally solid Holmes tbh.

what are you wittering about zonal for. Holmes is clearly man marking the goalscorer.

So we man-mark in open play? When did that come in?

[Hound]

As frustrating as it is, I still see it as a point gained rather than 2 points lost

What are you talking about?! We were 2-0 up on 85mins!

It is a rather weird comment. At the start of the game, I wouldn't accept a draw.

know what he means in that the draw was probably a better result for us than Derby. It was a more a must-not-lose than a must-win for us. Put a bit of extra between us and the bottom 3 and kept Derby at arms length.

Still disappointing after being 2-0 against a piss poor side who barely created a chance before their 2 goals

[Snowflake Royal]

Wow, just seen the replay. Is that a zonal thing? Dunno.

Mark a man and you stay with him, jump when he jumps etc. Zonal and you only focus on the ball, a little oblivious to whomever else around you or what they're doing. If they read the ball quicker than you happen to, you're doomed - perhaps that's what Holmes was doing. Not a defender though, not my place to comment.

Does seem just bad defending from the normally solid Holmes tbh.

what are you wittering about zonal for. Holmes is clearly man marking the goalscorer.

So we man-mark in open play? When did that come in?

I don't think you understand what zonal and man marking are.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

As frustrating as it is, I still see it as a point gained rather than 2 points lost

What are you talking about?! We were 2-0 up on 85mins!

It is a rather weird comment. At the start of the game, I wouldn't accept a draw.

I would have done. Put some context behind it, playing a team in form, who are literally trying to catch up to us where we have a depleted squad and haven't played for 3 weeks.

Yes, frustrating the way we drew obviously and obviously a win would have greatly helped ease our relegation fears, but not losing was imperative. I was expecting Derby to come away with all 3 points and for at least 45 minutes of that game, they were well better than we were. We didn't get to grips with the game in midfield and suffered and as a consequence we couldn't hold on.

[Coppells Lost Coat]

What are you talking about?! We were 2-0 up on 85mins!

It is a rather weird comment. At the start of the game, I wouldn't accept a draw.

I would have done. Put some context behind it, playing a team in form, who are literally trying to catch up to us where we have a depleted squad and haven't played for 3 weeks.

Yes, frustrating the way we drew obviously and obviously a win would have greatly helped ease our relegation fears, but not losing was imperative. I was expecting Derby to come away with all 3 points and for at least 45 minutes of that game, they were well better than we were. We didn't get to grips with the game in midfield and suffered and as a consequence we couldn't hold on.

I get what you saying, a points better than nothing.
At the start of that match, seeing the starting 11 with a few options on the bench, I was backing ourselves to get the win. Yes Derby were on a bit of good form. But ultimately our team looked stronger - then we went 2-0 up with out really being troubled....then we caved in.
If we play Derby again tomorrow - same teams. I would still back us to win.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

It is a rather weird comment. At the start of the game, I wouldn't accept a draw.

I would have done. Put some context behind it, playing a team in form, who are literally trying to catch up to us where we have a depleted squad and haven't played for 3 weeks.

Yes, frustrating the way we drew obviously and obviously a win would have greatly helped ease our relegation fears, but not losing was imperative. I was expecting Derby to come away with all 3 points and for at least 45 minutes of that game, they were well better than we were. We didn't get to grips with the game in midfield and suffered and as a consequence we couldn't hold on.

I get what you saying, a points better than nothing.
At the start of that match, seeing the starting 11 with a few options on the bench, I was backing ourselves to get the win. Yes Derby were on a bit of good form. But ultimately our team looked stronger - then we went 2-0 up with out really being troubled....then we caved in.
If we play Derby again tomorrow - same teams. I would still back us to win.

I wouldn't say we weren't troubled, Derby were on the front foot for the majority of the second half without creating too many clear cut chances but you always knew as the game went on they'd get some chances as they threw more men forward.

I'd have taken a point before the game started, that's just my opinion on the matter. I understand we probably had a stronger team on paper but not playing for a while and against an in form side would have taken it's toll on us, as it did.

[Mr Optimist]

As frustrating as it is, I still see it as a point gained rather than 2 points lost

What are you talking about?! We were 2-0 up on 85mins!

It is a rather weird comment. At the start of the game, I wouldn't accept a draw.

I don’t think anyone is disagreeing with this, just the crucial part was to not lose and for the gap to be reduced, it was a must win game for them, and a must not lose one for us, given our relative points totals. Derby need to reel three other sides in with relatively limited opportunities left to do so. If they manage it, fair oxf*rd to them.

[John Smith]

I wouldn't say we weren't troubled, Derby were on the front foot for the majority of the second half without creating too many clear cut chances but you always knew as the game went on they'd get some chances as they threw more men forward.

I'd have taken a point before the game started, that's just my opinion on the matter. I understand we probably had a stronger team on paper but not playing for a while and against an in form side would have taken it's toll on us, as it did.

I think you've been made to look very silly and should probably never post on here again.

[Hound]

I wouldn't say we weren't troubled, Derby were on the front foot for the majority of the second half without creating too many clear cut chances but you always knew as the game went on they'd get some chances as they threw more men forward.

I'd have taken a point before the game started, that's just my opinion on the matter. I understand we probably had a stronger team on paper but not playing for a while and against an in form side would have taken it's toll on us, as it did.

I think you've been made to look very silly and should probably never post on here again.

hmm, if looking a bit silly was the criteria for not posting on here again, you'd be long gone fella.

[Snowflake Royal]

I wouldn't say we weren't troubled, Derby were on the front foot for the majority of the second half without creating too many clear cut chances but you always knew as the game went on they'd get some chances as they threw more men forward.

I'd have taken a point before the game started, that's just my opinion on the matter. I understand we probably had a stronger team on paper but not playing for a while and against an in form side would have taken it's toll on us, as it did.

I think you've been made to look very silly and should probably never post on here again.

He's ten times better than you

[URZZZZ]

I wouldn't say we weren't troubled, Derby were on the front foot for the majority of the second half without creating too many clear cut chances but you always knew as the game went on they'd get some chances as they threw more men forward.

I'd have taken a point before the game started, that's just my opinion on the matter. I understand we probably had a stronger team on paper but not playing for a while and against an in form side would have taken it's toll on us, as it did.

I think you've been made to look very silly and should probably never post on here again.

He's ten times better than you

Think you’re being a bit harsh here…on YR99

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I think you've been made to look very silly and should probably never post on here again.

He's ten times better than you

Think you’re being a bit harsh here…on YR99

[Snowflake Royal]

He's ten times better than you

Think you’re being a bit harsh here…on YR99

Sorry YR

[Mr Angry]

Derby aren't a "piss poor" side; far from it.

They have a lot of solidity at the back (our 2nd goal notwithstanding) and controlled the midfield for pretty well the whole game.

Without their points deduction, they would be in no danger of relgation, and even with it, they have the players to get them very close to surviving.

In those circumstances, a point is not a bad result (even though at 2-0 up with 5 mins to go, you would expect to get all 3 points).

There were positives to take from the game; focus on them and move on.

[Orion1871]

Derby aren't a "piss poor" side; far from it.

They have a lot of solidity at the back (our 2nd goal notwithstanding) and controlled the midfield for pretty well the whole game.

Without their points deduction, they would be in no danger of relgation, and even with it, they have the players to get them very close to surviving.

In those circumstances, a point is not a bad result (even though at 2-0 up with 5 mins to go, you would expect to get all 3 points).

There were positives to take from the game; focus on them and move on.

The problem with that is that the negatives keep happening game after game and aren't being learned from.

[Hound]

Derby aren't a "piss poor" side; far from it.

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lets be honest, they were rubbish. Barely threatened until Southwood threw one in. One of the worse sides to come here this year

[Zip]

Derby aren't a "piss poor" side; far from it.

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lets be honest, they were rubbish. Barely threatened until Southwood threw one in. One of the worse sides to come here this year

I thought they were a solid side. Well organised, resilient, physically fit but lacking flair. They kept going and fully deserved the point.

[NathStPaul]

Derby aren't a "piss poor" side; far from it.

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lets be honest, they were rubbish. Barely threatened until Southwood threw one in. One of the worse sides to come here this year

I thought they were a solid side. Well organised, resilient, physically fit but lacking flair. They kept going and fully deserved the point.

They were certainly better than us for about 55 minutes of the game. If they are rubbish then what are we?

[Hound]

lets be honest, they were rubbish. Barely threatened until Southwood threw one in. One of the worse sides to come here this year

I thought they were a solid side. Well organised, resilient, physically fit but lacking flair. They kept going and fully deserved the point.

They were certainly better than us for about 55 minutes of the game. If they are rubbish then what are we?

neither of those things don't actually mean they weren't rubbish though

tbh, wasn't being totally serious. They were ok. Very average but well organised. Didn't really threaten though and thought they'd all but given up before the error. Slightly better than Hull and Barnsley. Poor rather than piss poor maybe.

[windermereROYAL]

TBH at half time I said to my mate Derby didn`t have much about them and their chances of keeping up their present form over a long period were minimal, but good old Reading made them look very good in the 2nd half, but they didn`t hurt us until Southwood`s clanger, I stand by my HT statement, they are a very limited side who will go down.