MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by Snowflake Royal » 13 Apr 2023 16:32

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Maybe it's just me, but I seriously don't care if we lose the record, it will always remain a fantastic season and if Burnley beat it, it will have been beaten by an excellent side, who needed to be financially stronger that all other sides to do it. We've held the record longer than pretty much any one else.

Saturday is just a big game for us - new manager, big crowd, we need a win - retaining the points record would be a bonus but if someone said to me, Burnley will take the record but we will stay up, I'd take that every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

I'd keep the record and get relegated.

The record is for every season. Relegations soon fade from relevance.

Like promotion vs a trophy. Trophy please.


Records will always get broken, I doubt Sunderland thought their 105pts would be broken just 7 years later. The fact that we have had the record for 17 years is fantastic and something that won't fade from relevance - although it is still forgotten by a lot of people, lose track of the number of "who is the best Championship team ever?" that ignores/forgets the 05/06 team.

So no concern if it goes now and would happily trade it for 21st now, as think the uncertainty of dropping is a bigger risk that losing a record. In an ideal world, we'll get both by producing a surprise result on Saturday.

Don't really care about other clubs fans.

Once the record is gone, it's no real difference to any other past good season or promotion.

Appreciate there are different equally valid views. Just this is mine.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by Royal_jimmy » 14 Apr 2023 09:38

In reality we won't hold that record forever and even if we lose it we can remember that we achieved those 106 points without any parachute payments and a fairly well built squad that didn't cost the earth.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by Royal_jimmy » 15 Apr 2023 10:01

Saw that Burnley flew down to Farnborough from Manchester yesterday so their players legs will be saved a bit!

Let's hope we can spring a surprise!

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by blythspartan » 15 Apr 2023 10:25

Royal_jimmy In reality we won't hold that record forever and even if we lose it we can remember that we achieved those 106 points without any parachute payments and a fairly well built squad that didn't cost the earth.


I completely agree with this, although in Don Goodman’s eyes Wolves will always be the greatest ever Championship team.

What we achieved in 2005/06 was a miracle tbh and for me will never be bettered.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by BarryWhiteRFC » 15 Apr 2023 10:59

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Royal_jimmy In reality we won't hold that record forever and even if we lose it we can remember that we achieved those 106 points without any parachute payments and a fairly well built squad that didn't cost the earth.


I completely agree with this, although in Don Goodman’s eyes Wolves will always be the greatest ever Championship team.

What we achieved in 2005/06 was a miracle tbh and for me will never be bettered.


I have to agree with this, it is not far off being on a par with Leicester winning the PL or Wigan winning the FA Cup. To do it in the style we did.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by Mid Sussex Royal » 15 Apr 2023 11:00

Royal_jimmy In reality we won't hold that record forever and even if we lose it we can remember that we achieved those 106 points without any parachute payments and a fairly well built squad that didn't cost the earth.


Hard to compare as almost a different era.

If Burnley get past 106 then fair play, the league has several other sides with parachute payments and we were playing the likes of Crewe....

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by Sutekh » 15 Apr 2023 11:04

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Royal_jimmy In reality we won't hold that record forever and even if we lose it we can remember that we achieved those 106 points without any parachute payments and a fairly well built squad that didn't cost the earth.


I completely agree with this, although in Don Goodman’s eyes Wolves will always be the greatest ever Championship team.

What we achieved in 2005/06 was a miracle tbh and for me will never be bettered.


I have to agree with this, it is not far off being on a par with Leicester winning the PL or Wigan winning the FA Cup. To do it in the style we did.


Still annoys me that the club lost to Plymouth on that opening day and that the ref failed to send of that Luton defender after he professionally fouled Doyle at Kenilworth Road, together with the frustrating number of draws - could have been so many more points! Still managed to watch every minute of every game that season so what is there to complain about really!

Best games - the complete destruction of Millwall at the Mad Stad and the siege of the Alamo at St Mary's in a torrential downpour (another game where an opposing player should have been sent off, this time for a forearm smash on Doyle, still don't know how the ref didn't notice).

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by Royal_jimmy » 15 Apr 2023 11:12

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Royal_jimmy In reality we won't hold that record forever and even if we lose it we can remember that we achieved those 106 points without any parachute payments and a fairly well built squad that didn't cost the earth.


I completely agree with this, although in Don Goodman’s eyes Wolves will always be the greatest ever Championship team.

What we achieved in 2005/06 was a miracle tbh and for me will never be bettered.


Yes true but then Burnley's team are full of premier league quality players with experience at that league and that's where they'll deservedly be. Our players weren't tested at that level before when we got 106 points. We'd never been in the top flight that season.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by Royal_jimmy » 15 Apr 2023 11:14

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I completely agree with this, although in Don Goodman’s eyes Wolves will always be the greatest ever Championship team.

What we achieved in 2005/06 was a miracle tbh and for me will never be bettered.


I have to agree with this, it is not far off being on a par with Leicester winning the PL or Wigan winning the FA Cup. To do it in the style we did.


Still annoys me that the club lost to Plymouth on that opening day and that the ref failed to send of that Luton defender after he professionally fouled Doyle at Kenilworth Road, together with the frustrating number of draws - could have been so many more points! Still managed to watch every minute of every game that season so what is there to complain about really!

Best games - the complete destruction of Millwall at the Mad Stad and the siege of the Alamo at St Mary's in a torrential downpour (another game where an opposing player should have been sent off, this time for a forearm smash on Doyle, still don't know how the ref didn't notice).


We did draw a lot of games near the end of the season. Like Leeds, Watford and Sheffield United away


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by Snowflake Royal » 15 Apr 2023 11:17

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Royal_jimmy In reality we won't hold that record forever and even if we lose it we can remember that we achieved those 106 points without any parachute payments and a fairly well built squad that didn't cost the earth.


Hard to compare as almost a different era.

If Burnley get past 106 then fair play, the league has several other sides with parachute payments and we were playing the likes of Crewe....

And Leeds.

Most teams in the Championship are there on merit, no matter the season.

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by Elm Park Kid » 15 Apr 2023 11:23

Royal_jimmy In reality we won't hold that record forever and even if we lose it we can remember that we achieved those 106 points without any parachute payments and a fairly well built squad that didn't cost the earth.


If I remember right, we did actually lose quite a bit of money that season. There was a deliberate strategy from the start that we were going to go for it and big John stumped up a big chunk of cash. But, obviously it's at a much, much lower scale than the ability of relegated PL clubs to buy their way back up.

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by Sutekh » 15 Apr 2023 11:43

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Royal_jimmy In reality we won't hold that record forever and even if we lose it we can remember that we achieved those 106 points without any parachute payments and a fairly well built squad that didn't cost the earth.


Hard to compare as almost a different era.

If Burnley get past 106 then fair play, the league has several other sides with parachute payments and we were playing the likes of Crewe....

And Leeds.

Most teams in the Championship are there on merit, no matter the season.


And Crewe that season were a very awkward opponent, dodgy 1-0 win at home and a right old 4-3 ding-dong win at Gresty Road. This season Burnley have had Wigan and Reading as comparison!

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by Snowflake Royal » 15 Apr 2023 12:42

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Hard to compare as almost a different era.

If Burnley get past 106 then fair play, the league has several other sides with parachute payments and we were playing the likes of Crewe....

And Leeds.

Most teams in the Championship are there on merit, no matter the season.


And Crewe that season were a very awkward opponent, dodgy 1-0 win at home and a right old 4-3 ding-dong win at Gresty Road. This season Burnley have had Wigan and Reading as comparison!

Yep, Crewe were churning out quality players around that time.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by Jackson Corner » 15 Apr 2023 12:48

As well as parachute payments they have the highest wage bill in the division by some margin. Having said that since 106 Newcastle with Bartez at the Helm. And Wolves who somehow got up with Champions league players in the side. And staying within the wage cap!

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by Snowflake Royal » 15 Apr 2023 12:49

Jackson Corner As well as parachute payments they have the highest wage bill in the division by some margin. Having said that since 106 Newcastle with Bartez at the Helm. And Wolves who somehow got up with Champions league players in the side. And staying within the wage cap!

There isn’t a wage cap.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by JR » 15 Apr 2023 13:28

South Coast Royal I am also in the "prefer to stay up>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>106 record" camp.

Who holds the record for Div 1 and Div 2?
Exactly, nobody cares and whilst it was great to get promoted that season with record points the much bigger thing was getting promoted.


Our record is not a championship record - it is the record for English League football for all time - I think some underestimate how ridiculous an achievement that was.

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by tmesis » 15 Apr 2023 13:31

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Royal_jimmy In reality we won't hold that record forever and even if we lose it we can remember that we achieved those 106 points without any parachute payments and a fairly well built squad that didn't cost the earth.


Hard to compare as almost a different era.

If Burnley get past 106 then fair play, the league has several other sides with parachute payments and we were playing the likes of Crewe....

I think this year's championship is lower quality than back then. I'd say this is probably the worst I've know it since we got promoted in 2002.

The players might be paid more now, but that certainly doesn't make them better.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by Snowflake Royal » 15 Apr 2023 14:23

Hunt's first line up:

....................Lumley
..Yiadom, Holmes, Sarr, NGW
....Hendrick, Casadei, Fornah
......Azeez, Joao, Ehibhatiomhan

Boyce-Clarke, Abrefa, Dann, Mbengue, Loum, Camara, Carroll

There's a lot right here. Great to see Camara back on the bench. Plenty of youth. Decent pace upfront, and looks like a set up saying we aren't going to just sit passively. I'd prefer Mbengue to Sarr, but there's not a great deal to otherwise argue with.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by JR » 15 Apr 2023 14:26

Snowflake Royal Hunt's first line up:

....................Lumley
..Yiadom, Holmes, Sarr, NGW
....Hendrick, Casadei, Fornah
......Azeez, Joao, Ehibhatiomhan

Boyce-Clarke, Abrefa, Dann, Mbengue, Loum, Camara, Carroll

There's a lot right here. Great to see Camara back on the bench. Plenty of youth. Decent pace upfront, and looks like a set up saying we aren't going to just sit passively. I'd prefer Mbengue to Sarr, but there's not a great deal to otherwise argue with.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

by Ascotexgunner » 15 Apr 2023 14:29

Snowflake Royal Hunt's first line up:

....................Lumley
..Yiadom, Holmes, Sarr, NGW
....Hendrick, Casadei, Fornah
......Azeez, Joao, Ehibhatiomhan

Boyce-Clarke, Abrefa, Dann, Mbengue, Loum, Camara, Carroll

There's a lot right here. Great to see Camara back on the bench. Plenty of youth. Decent pace upfront, and looks like a set up saying we aren't going to just sit passively. I'd prefer Mbengue to Sarr, but there's not a great deal to otherwise argue with.


I'm pleased with this as well. Give the youth a chance....something the last clown of a manager never did unless forced to. Pace up front as well.

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