Selles not out

[Pepe the Horseman]

When did we last appoint a manager who didn't make us think "wtf?".

I'd say McDermott round 2 and Clarke were sensible. Clement had also done OK at Derby. But generally every appointment has come out of nowhere and made no sense.

Hopefully new owners do better.

Na, Clement was also a terrible shout. Hadn't managed a full season with either Derby or Swansea before getting sacked.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Bowen did well, but it was very much a "wtf?" appointment.

Disagree entirely.

It may have made sense eventually, but pretty sure the general consensus was wtf, why has he appointed himself?

Wasn't it a strange reaction on his debut as well initially? Think it was a weird one for sure. He wasn't the worst we've had though, just not that great either and a bit limited.

[Snowflake Royal]

Disagree entirely.

It may have made sense eventually, but pretty sure the general consensus was wtf, why has he appointed himself?

Wasn't it a strange reaction on his debut as well initially? Think it was a weird one for sure. He wasn't the worst we've had though, just not that great either and a bit limited.

There was a vocal minority frothing at the mouth because he'd 'stabbed Gomes in the back and appointed himself'. I don't think that's the same thing.

[Snowflake Royal]

Has he gone yet?

[WestYorksRoyal]

It may have made sense eventually, but pretty sure the general consensus was wtf, why has he appointed himself?

Wasn't it a strange reaction on his debut as well initially? Think it was a weird one for sure. He wasn't the worst we've had though, just not that great either and a bit limited.

There was a vocal minority frothing at the mouth because he'd 'stabbed Gomes in the back and appointed himself'. I don't think that's the same thing.

We were his first managerial role; most of his career was assistant to Mark Hughes. Add in the perception that he appointed himself and people were definitely miffed. But fair play, he did pretty well.

As an aside, how would people feel if he sent an SOS to his old mate Mark who is currently available? It would be a yes from me. Would need new owners to fund it, obviously.

[Snowflake Royal]

Wasn't it a strange reaction on his debut as well initially? Think it was a weird one for sure. He wasn't the worst we've had though, just not that great either and a bit limited.

There was a vocal minority frothing at the mouth because he'd 'stabbed Gomes in the back and appointed himself'. I don't think that's the same thing.

We were his first managerial role; most of his career was assistant to Mark Hughes. Add in the perception that he appointed himself and people were definitely miffed. But fair play, he did pretty well.

As an aside, how would people feel if he sent an SOS to his old mate Mark who is currently available? It would be a yes from me. Would need new owners to fund it, obviously.

On your aside, I wouldn’t say no, but I don’t think it’s the right move. I think Internal until we can appoint properly, and that isn’t Hughes in either case.

[Mr Angry]

I would imagine that the only reasons Selles hasn't been fired yet are:

1. Bowen and Dai have more pressing issues to attend to and.....
2. We can't afford to pay any compensation that may be due to a Manager we recruited only 4 or 5 months ago (and presumably, his staff).

Otherwise, he should be gone; he is clearly toxic and I would bring in Noel Hunt again - even as an interim manager until the ownership issues are settled.

[Lower West]

See also, Madejski and Sugar (Autotrader and Amstrad) who some feel were not the great businessmen they were made out to be but fortunate and successful opportunists which is a different thing altogether.

Read Sugar's autobiography. Your perception might change. Totally self made. A naturally born trader.

[Hound]

Wasn't it a strange reaction on his debut as well initially? Think it was a weird one for sure. He wasn't the worst we've had though, just not that great either and a bit limited.

There was a vocal minority frothing at the mouth because he'd 'stabbed Gomes in the back and appointed himself'. I don't think that's the same thing.

We were his first managerial role; most of his career was assistant to Mark Hughes. Add in the perception that he appointed himself and people were definitely miffed. But fair play, he did pretty well.

As an aside, how would people feel if he sent an SOS to his old mate Mark who is currently available? It would be a yes from me. Would need new owners to fund it, obviously.

Did have this same thought, depends on how motivated Hughes is to get back in

Basically offer it him the way ince was. Caretaker and if it’s goes well then he has a shot at taking over. Or at least putting himself back in the shop window

Not sure if I’d be keen. Obvs better than Selles but most managers would be. Actually think a low rent Warnock type like Cotteril may be the best bet atm

[Pepe the Horseman]

On 4 October 2023, Hughes was sacked as manager with Bradford sitting 18th in League Two. It was felt by the Bradford City players that Hughes was trying to shoehorn Premier League tactics into the League Two side, and this ultimately contributed to the lack of success in his second season.

No thanks.

[Hound]

Of limited interest but looking at Bradford on bbc noticed Danny Cowley was offered and accepted the job after Hughes before changing his mind for family reasons

[YorkshireRoyal99]

There was a vocal minority frothing at the mouth because he'd 'stabbed Gomes in the back and appointed himself'. I don't think that's the same thing.

We were his first managerial role; most of his career was assistant to Mark Hughes. Add in the perception that he appointed himself and people were definitely miffed. But fair play, he did pretty well.

As an aside, how would people feel if he sent an SOS to his old mate Mark who is currently available? It would be a yes from me. Would need new owners to fund it, obviously.

Did have this same thought, depends on how motivated Hughes is to get back in

Basically offer it him the way ince was. Caretaker and if it’s goes well then he has a shot at taking over. Or at least putting himself back in the shop window

Not sure if I’d be keen. Obvs better than Selles but most managers would be. Actually think a low rent Warnock type like Cotteril may be the best bet atm

Mentioned it on another thread but Matt Taylor, recently sacked by Rotherham, might not a bad shout. Good track record and longevity at Exeter, got them out of L2 (which is where we look increasingly likely to be at the moment) and consolidated well in L1. Also did well at Rotherham up until recently with his back very much against the wall financially.

Obviously would need new owners before anything else first, although think he might do better with a club with a higher ceiling than Rotherham (all that assuming the next owners can push us back up to Championship level).

[WestYorksRoyal]

I'd love to see us go for Richie Wellens. Could the new owners sell a short term step backwards for a project with more potential? Plus, my Orient supporting friend would be absolutely fuming.

[Eaststandman]

Matt Taylor's Exeter were easy to watch and they ran on modest finances. Taylor utilised the younger players at his disposal and Exeter were sad to see him go, but he earned the chance and kept the Millers up without signings, a decent, hardworking chap, for sure!

[Hound]

We were his first managerial role; most of his career was assistant to Mark Hughes. Add in the perception that he appointed himself and people were definitely miffed. But fair play, he did pretty well.

As an aside, how would people feel if he sent an SOS to his old mate Mark who is currently available? It would be a yes from me. Would need new owners to fund it, obviously.

Did have this same thought, depends on how motivated Hughes is to get back in

Basically offer it him the way ince was. Caretaker and if it’s goes well then he has a shot at taking over. Or at least putting himself back in the shop window

Not sure if I’d be keen. Obvs better than Selles but most managers would be. Actually think a low rent Warnock type like Cotteril may be the best bet atm

Mentioned it on another thread but Matt Taylor, recently sacked by Rotherham, might not a bad shout. Good track record and longevity at Exeter, got them out of L2 (which is where we look increasingly likely to be at the moment) and consolidated well in L1. Also did well at Rotherham up until recently with his back very much against the wall financially.

Obviously would need new owners before anything else first, although think he might do better with a club with a higher ceiling than Rotherham (all that assuming the next owners can push us back up to Championship level).

Yeah fair shout. Rotherham are always dire in the champ no matter who is in charge. Thought the sacking a bit harsh

[tidus_mi2]

I'm somehow only just getting to the point where I'm debating if going to matches is worth it, if they sack Selles, they'd secure my services for another month of shit results at least.

[Pepe the Horseman]

I'd love to see us go for Richie Wellens. Could the new owners sell a short term step backwards for a project with more potential? Plus, my Orient supporting friend would be absolutely fuming.

Expect our embargo means we can't pay compensation for managers, as well as players. Plus he'd be mental to leave Orient for Reading right now.

[WestYorksRoyal]

I'd love to see us go for Richie Wellens. Could the new owners sell a short term step backwards for a project with more potential? Plus, my Orient supporting friend would be absolutely fuming.

Expect our embargo means we can't pay compensation for managers, as well as players. Plus he'd be mental to leave Orient for Reading right now.

Don't know about the embargo and staff. But if we got in good owners and sold a project, we could absolutely convince players and staff to drop down and get involved. Just look at all the players who were willing to join Wrexham in the NL. No offence to Orient, but what is their ceiling? Sneak into playoffs, get promoted and be Championship fodder like Scunthorpe, Burton Albion and Wycombe? Whereas you could feasibly do an Eddie Howe at Bournemouth style L2 to PL with us.

All hinges on the outcome the takeover.

[Snowflake Royal]

I'd love to see us go for Richie Wellens. Could the new owners sell a short term step backwards for a project with more potential? Plus, my Orient supporting friend would be absolutely fuming.

Expect our embargo means we can't pay compensation for managers, as well as players. Plus he'd be mental to leave Orient for Reading right now.

Don't know about the embargo and staff. But if we got in good owners and sold a project, we could absolutely convince players and staff to drop down and get involved. Just look at all the players who were willing to join Wrexham in the NL. No offence to Orient, but what is their ceiling? Sneak into playoffs, get promoted and be Championship fodder like Scunthorpe, Burton Albion and Wycombe? Whereas you could feasibly do an Eddie Howe at Bournemouth style L2 to PL with us.

All hinges on the outcome the takeover.

Wrexham have got away with massively overspending though. Different rules at different levels.

[morganb]

I'd love to see us go for Richie Wellens. Could the new owners sell a short term step backwards for a project with more potential? Plus, my Orient supporting friend would be absolutely fuming.

Richie Wellens sometimes attends our Unders matches to watch his son Charlie who's in the Academy. Would probably be easier to pitch a project to him than some of the managers out there.