Ex Royals

[paultheroyal]

BBC reporting that any bids for Olise and Eze start at £60m with the next paragraph of interest.

Neither contract contains a straightforward release clause and any deal will be complex with percentages due to the player's former club, the players themselves and Crystal Palace.

[Hound]

BBC reporting that any bids for Olise and Eze start at £60m with the next paragraph of interest.

Neither contract contains a straightforward release clause and any deal will be complex with percentages due to the player's former club, the players themselves and Crystal Palace.

Yep saw that

My guess fwiw (nothing) is that there probably is a clause of sorts in there. Just maybe not as high as we’d hope - maybe 5% or something

[Hound]

Don’t think Palace get enough credit really. They’ve picked up 3 superb champ players for not a huge amount. As said in the article, they are a completely different side when Olise and Eze play, and Wharton looks excellent

[WestYorksRoyal]

Pretty sure Bowen is on record saying we don't have an Olise sell on clause. Don't you get solidarity payments by default though, at 1% or so? If he goes for £80m, would still be a handy amount at this level. But just imagine if we had agreed 20% or so.

P.s., Wharton looks like a player. Alongside Mainoo and Alex Scott, possible solution to England's perennial 3rd CM problem.

[South Coast Royal]

Don’t think Palace get enough credit really. They’ve picked up 3 superb champ players for not a huge amount. As said in the article, they are a completely different side when Olise and Eze play, and Wharton looks excellent

A pretty good last 3 games for them.

Great to see the praise in the media for Olise who we all knew would make it but, just because he played for The Fakes, there were some on here who thought that Eze wasn't all that.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Don’t think Palace get enough credit really. They’ve picked up 3 superb champ players for not a huge amount. As said in the article, they are a completely different side when Olise and Eze play, and Wharton looks excellent

A pretty good last 3 games for them.

Great to see the praise in the media for Olise who we all knew would make it but, just because he played for The Fakes, there were some on here who thought that Eze wasn't all that.

Remember when some of us said Ejaria was better than Eze? But bias aside, Olise genuinely is.

[From Despair To Where?]

I think that opinion was based on Eze having a couple not so stellar games against us.

[WestYorksRoyal]

If we do have an Olise sell on clause, could it complicate the takeover? If Dai's representatives tell him there's a potential windfall coming this summer, he may want to amend the terms of any sale to ensure he gets his share.

[Crusader Royal]

If we do have an Olise sell on clause, could it complicate the takeover? If Dai's representatives tell him there's a potential windfall coming this summer, he may want to amend the terms of any sale to ensure he gets his share.

There is no evidence we do, direct evidence we don’t.
If we do then it won’t be a surprise to Dai, NH or the purchasers and will be part of the sales negotiation and valuation. It’s not a sudden new thing that’s cropped up.

[Snowflake Royal]

It seems very much like there'll have been no sell on fee negotiated in the sale, as per Bowen public statement (although these aren't exactly always honest/correct), but because he joined us as a teen and spent time in the Academy, we'd be due a slice of any fee for having helped develop him. With Chelsea and City getting a slice of that too.

It's unlikely to be very big even if he was to go for a very big amount, because he wasn’t here very long. I guess it might hit 7 figures, but my complete stab in the dark would be a very welcome few hundred k.

[Stranded]

If Olise moves before the end of the season of his 23rd birthday then we will be due 4 years worth of training compensation - this would be about 360k.

We would also, I believe, be due a solidarity payment. 5% of the transfer fee is withheld and allocated to clubs who trained the player up to the age of 12-22 and varies on the length of time there.

So if Olise goes for the 60m that some press are quoting - then 5% of that is 3m that would be split across the following clubs - Chelsea (4 years), Man City (1 year) Reading (4 years). So Chelsea and us would both be due around 1.33m GBP. With City getting around 300k.

Of course, we may have a sell on fee and Bowen could have been wrong/lying.

[paultheroyal]

Despite what has allegedly been said by others before - i struggle to believe there is no sell on fee. That would be literally outrageous and a terrible piece of business. I would have to move on from Antonio in terms of worst ever transfer / contract scenario!!

[Elm Park Kid]

Because Olise went on a release clause that would suggest to me that it's very unlikely he has a sell-on clause. Unless someone had the sense to inject a sell-on clause requirement into his release clause?

More likely the clause just stated that Reading Football Club were required to accept any bid for at least £8.3m. At which point no club is going to voluntarily accept a sell-on clause.

Even if we did have such a clause i'm 99% certain we would have agreed a financial deal to remove it during this season.

[From Despair To Where?]

If he's got a minimum fee clause, I can't see why there would be a sell on clause.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Perhaps the release clause required a sell on %?

[Snowflake Royal]

Despite what has allegedly been said by others before - i struggle to believe there is no sell on fee. That would be literally outrageous and a terrible piece of business. I would have to move on from Antonio in terms of worst ever transfer / contract scenario!!

Why would you struggle to believe it?

The contract was signed with an £8m release clause (over our transfer record for an unproven teen!) when he was about 17 and had no professional experience and a number of clubs were looking at taking him on.

We're not talking a contract negotiated once he was a regular first team player, or a transfer negotiated as a star let. We're talking a transfer based on triggering a clause in a three year old contract for a, then, unproven teen

[WestYorksRoyal]

Despite what has allegedly been said by others before - i struggle to believe there is no sell on fee. That would be literally outrageous and a terrible piece of business. I would have to move on from Antonio in terms of worst ever transfer / contract scenario!!

Why would you struggle to believe it?

The contract was signed with an £8m release clause (over our transfer record for an unproven teen!) when he was about 17 and had no professional experience and a number of clubs were looking at taking him on.

We're not talking a contract negotiated once he was a regular first team player, or a transfer negotiated as a star let. We're talking a transfer based on triggering a clause in a three year old contract for a, then, unproven teen

And Antonio isn't a great precedent. He was behind McAnuff, Kebe and HRK, it would have stunted his development to remain 4th pick. It's just a shame that Sheffield Wednesday weren't competing higher up the table and he had to make his intermediate move to Forest. Had he been competing near the top with Wednesday, perhaps West Ham would have paid them £8m and we'd have got a better sell on amount.

[From Despair To Where?]

Despite what has allegedly been said by others before - i struggle to believe there is no sell on fee. That would be literally outrageous and a terrible piece of business. I would have to move on from Antonio in terms of worst ever transfer / contract scenario!!

Why would you struggle to believe it?

The contract was signed with an £8m release clause (over our transfer record for an unproven teen!) when he was about 17 and had no professional experience and a number of clubs were looking at taking him on.

We're not talking a contract negotiated once he was a regular first team player, or a transfer negotiated as a star let. We're talking a transfer based on triggering a clause in a three year old contract for a, then, unproven teen

And Antonio isn't a great precedent. He was behind McAnuff, Kebe and HRK, it would have stunted his development to remain 4th pick. It's just a shame that Sheffield Wednesday weren't competing higher up the table and he had to make his intermediate move to Forest. Had he been competing near the top with Wednesday, perhaps West Ham would have paid them £8m and we'd have got a better sell on amount.

Also worth noting that when Antonio left, we'd just got promoted to the Premiership and signed McLeary, so that's club captain, club legend, Nottingham Forest's top scorer the season before and a player who was a first team regular and went on to play in the semi final of the Euros ahead of him.

Not sure Antonio had any right to expect 1st team football at that stage of his career, which is the oft stated reason for him leaving.

[Snowflake Royal]

Why would you struggle to believe it?

The contract was signed with an £8m release clause (over our transfer record for an unproven teen!) when he was about 17 and had no professional experience and a number of clubs were looking at taking him on.

We're not talking a contract negotiated once he was a regular first team player, or a transfer negotiated as a star let. We're talking a transfer based on triggering a clause in a three year old contract for a, then, unproven teen

And Antonio isn't a great precedent. He was behind McAnuff, Kebe and HRK, it would have stunted his development to remain 4th pick. It's just a shame that Sheffield Wednesday weren't competing higher up the table and he had to make his intermediate move to Forest. Had he been competing near the top with Wednesday, perhaps West Ham would have paid them £8m and we'd have got a better sell on amount.

Also worth noting that when Antonio left, we'd just got promoted to the Premiership and signed McLeary, so that's club captain, club legend, Nottingham Forest's top scorer the season before and a player who was a first team regular and went on to play in the semi final of the Euros ahead of him.

Not sure Antonio had any right to expect 1st team football at that stage of his career, which is the oft stated reason for him leaving.

Paul has a bit of a well documented blindspot on Antonio.

Where pretty much most other Reading fans see it as a perfectly reasonable transfer based on timing and circumstances that has unfortunately led to us missing out on seeing a player reach a much higher standard of performance with us than they managed while here.

[Sutekh]

And Antonio isn't a great precedent. He was behind McAnuff, Kebe and HRK, it would have stunted his development to remain 4th pick. It's just a shame that Sheffield Wednesday weren't competing higher up the table and he had to make his intermediate move to Forest. Had he been competing near the top with Wednesday, perhaps West Ham would have paid them £8m and we'd have got a better sell on amount.

Also worth noting that when Antonio left, we'd just got promoted to the Premiership and signed McLeary, so that's club captain, club legend, Nottingham Forest's top scorer the season before and a player who was a first team regular and went on to play in the semi final of the Euros ahead of him.

Not sure Antonio had any right to expect 1st team football at that stage of his career, which is the oft stated reason for him leaving.

Paul has a bit of a well documented blindspot on Antonio.

Where pretty much most other Reading fans see it as a perfectly reasonable transfer based on timing and circumstances that has unfortunately led to us missing out on seeing a player reach a much higher standard of performance with us than they managed while here.

Have to say though it was a fantastic scouting result for the club to have spotted Antonio thrilling the fans of Tooting each week. Really could do with them identifying the next stars stuck in non league over the next couple of seasons.