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Re: Richardson out

by Stranded » 08 Apr 2026 08:24

Jack Celliers wrote: 07 Apr 2026 21:34 Change the manager and we get:
Better football. The second half of Stevenage away is the worst I have seen any team play football.
Better signings. No more of Leam's friends who are past it.
Decent loanees. Would you let any of your young players come and complete their education in the current Reading set-up?
Youth players.

I'm not sure he deserves the sack, but I would jump for joy if another club came in for him.
Point one - you simply cannot guarantee that and even if the play is better, it may not be as successful in terms of results.

Point two -
Roberts, Nyambe & Ward have all been decent to excellent signings under LR
Young seems pointless and I think was a rushed deal to get a body in
Keane has been a waste of a loan but made sense at the time - I think we all saw the logic in it, it just hasn't worked out
Rinomhota has clearly had some issues off the pitch which appear to have happened after he signed meaning he may as well not have been there.

Of those, only Keane really fits your criteria but as said, I think most people thought that made sense as a short term loan.

Point three

Again, impossible to say - loans aren't always young players but can be a way to bring in an older player that the parent club don't want but we can use - I would rather us use the loan market to bring in experience that we may end up signing and utilise our Academy for younger players rather than helping develop a Brighton player that they can sell on to someone else later.

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Re: Richardson out

by Royal Rother » 08 Apr 2026 09:11

Snowflake Royal wrote: 08 Apr 2026 08:08
Jack Celliers wrote: 07 Apr 2026 21:34 Change the manager and we get:
Better football
. The second half of Stevenage away is the worst I have seen any team play football.
Better signings. No more of Leam's friends who are past it.
Decent loanees. Would you let any of your young players come and complete their education in the current Reading set-up?
Youth players.

I'm not sure he deserves the sack, but I would jump for joy if another club came in for him.
That's a hell of an assumption.
It's almost impossible for it to be worse.

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Re: Richardson out

by MR. CYNICAL » 08 Apr 2026 09:27

Snowflake Royal wrote: 07 Apr 2026 08:35 Remind me, what was the trajectory of our three best managers of the last 25 odd years?

McDermott - took over struggling side mid-season, narrowly missed POs, PO Final, Champions...

Coppell - took over successful side mid-season, missed POs, narrowly missed POs, Champions

Pardew - took over struggling side mid-season and got top half, PO Final, 2nd, PO Final division above.

It's... it's almost like our best managers aren’t instant successes and need 4 or 5 transfer windows to build something fantastic... I wonder what we could take from this....

I know, it's call for every manager to be sacked within 6 months!
Just a small point, to keep the records straight, we didn't make the play off final the season after our third tier promotion, we got to the semi's and lost to Wolves.

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Re: Richardson out

by Snowflake Royal » 08 Apr 2026 10:10

Royal Rother wrote: 08 Apr 2026 09:11
Snowflake Royal wrote: 08 Apr 2026 08:08
Jack Celliers wrote: 07 Apr 2026 21:34 Change the manager and we get:
Better football
. The second half of Stevenage away is the worst I have seen any team play football.
Better signings. No more of Leam's friends who are past it.
Decent loanees. Would you let any of your young players come and complete their education in the current Reading set-up?
Youth players.

I'm not sure he deserves the sack, but I would jump for joy if another club came in for him.
That's a hell of an assumption.
It's almost impossible for it to be worse.
It can ALWAYS be worse.

Some people really learned nothing from Dai's tenure. :roll:

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Re: Richardson out

by Snowflake Royal » 08 Apr 2026 10:10

MR. CYNICAL wrote: 08 Apr 2026 09:27
Snowflake Royal wrote: 07 Apr 2026 08:35 Remind me, what was the trajectory of our three best managers of the last 25 odd years?

McDermott - took over struggling side mid-season, narrowly missed POs, PO Final, Champions...

Coppell - took over successful side mid-season, missed POs, narrowly missed POs, Champions

Pardew - took over struggling side mid-season and got top half, PO Final, 2nd, PO Final division above.

It's... it's almost like our best managers aren’t instant successes and need 4 or 5 transfer windows to build something fantastic... I wonder what we could take from this....

I know, it's call for every manager to be sacked within 6 months!
Just a small point, to keep the records straight, we didn't make the play off final the season after our third tier promotion, we got to the semi's and lost to Wolves.
Ah yes, apologies.

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Re: Richardson out

by andrew1957 » 08 Apr 2026 11:12

I am not one to want managers sacked. I know I am in a minority, but I absolutely believe that Noel Hunt would have turned this season round if he had not been sacked. At least under Hunt the football was watchable.

I have watched RFC for decades and I just cannot remember the type of football being as unwatchable as it has been under LR. Maybe it was just as bad under Brendan Rodgers? The question is whether this is the LR style and we get more of the same gutless hoofball next season - or is he capable of changing the way we play? I know it is a results business, but at the end of the day it is also about entertainment and crowd numbers will not begin to increase substantially unless things change. The owners have a big decision to make in my opinion.

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Re: Richardson out

by tidus_mi2 » 08 Apr 2026 11:13

andrew1957 wrote: 08 Apr 2026 11:12 I am not one to want managers sacked. I know I am in a minority, but I absolutely believe that Noel Hunt would have turned this season round if he had not been sacked. At least under Hunt the football was watchable.

I have watched RFC for decades and I just cannot remember the type of football being as unwatchable as it has been under LR. Maybe it was just as bad under Brendan Rodgers? The question is whether this is the LR style and we get more of the same gutless hoofball next season - or is he capable of changing the way we play? I know it is a results business, but at the end of the day it is also about entertainment and crowd numbers will not begin to increase substantially unless things change. The owners have a big decision to make in my opinion.
At this point I'd definitely take a lower league position for some more enjoyable football.

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Re: Richardson out

by Sutekh » 08 Apr 2026 11:19

tidus_mi2 wrote: 08 Apr 2026 11:13
andrew1957 wrote: 08 Apr 2026 11:12 I am not one to want managers sacked. I know I am in a minority, but I absolutely believe that Noel Hunt would have turned this season round if he had not been sacked. At least under Hunt the football was watchable.

I have watched RFC for decades and I just cannot remember the type of football being as unwatchable as it has been under LR. Maybe it was just as bad under Brendan Rodgers? The question is whether this is the LR style and we get more of the same gutless hoofball next season - or is he capable of changing the way we play? I know it is a results business, but at the end of the day it is also about entertainment and crowd numbers will not begin to increase substantially unless things change. The owners have a big decision to make in my opinion.
At this point I'd definitely take a lower league position for some more enjoyable football.
So, if it had come to it, you’d have taken 7th over 2nd or 20th over 6th?

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by Wycombe Royal » 08 Apr 2026 11:28

I don't believe this is the way Richardson wants us to play, but he is trying to get results with the players he has. He has had one transfer window, and therefore doesn't have the type of players in key positions he wants.

He knows we need pace, in midfield, the wings and up top - we have two quick wide players, but how often have both been fit to be in the same team. Our midfield is just not dynamic enough, it offers little going forward and loses the ball frequently putting pressure on the defence, hence why we rarely keep clean sheets.

I firmly believe our defence is one of the best in the division, but it just can't cope with the midfield offering little protection in front of it.

It is definitely a work in progress, and I remember back to Coppell's tenure, and even Pardew's, that it took 3 or 4 transfer windows to build the right team. Take a look at Lincoln, they have been building gradually for a number of seasons to get where they are now. They don't have any big stars, but they have a team that play for and compliment each other. We are a long way from having that, but constantly changing a manager will never get you there.

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Re: Richardson out

by andrew1957 » 08 Apr 2026 11:31

Sutekh wrote: 08 Apr 2026 11:19
tidus_mi2 wrote: 08 Apr 2026 11:13
andrew1957 wrote: 08 Apr 2026 11:12 I am not one to want managers sacked. I know I am in a minority, but I absolutely believe that Noel Hunt would have turned this season round if he had not been sacked. At least under Hunt the football was watchable.

I have watched RFC for decades and I just cannot remember the type of football being as unwatchable as it has been under LR. Maybe it was just as bad under Brendan Rodgers? The question is whether this is the LR style and we get more of the same gutless hoofball next season - or is he capable of changing the way we play? I know it is a results business, but at the end of the day it is also about entertainment and crowd numbers will not begin to increase substantially unless things change. The owners have a big decision to make in my opinion.
At this point I'd definitely take a lower league position for some more enjoyable football.
So, if it had come to it, you’d have taken 7th over 2nd or 20th over 6th?
I don’t think many of us believed we would make top 6 this season and we wouldn’t be anywhere close with 62 points after 42 games in most seasons. It is just that there are a lot of poor teams in L1 this season. I would have been happy for Hunt to stay and a mid table finish this season, but the owners and fans were too impatient for that. I think in some ways LR has set us backwards because whereas with Hunt I felt we were building momentum, under LR we seem stuck with just trying to grind out results and there just doesn’t seem to be any momentum. If LR stays then RFC will have to start flying next season, or the fans will turn. With the new owners and resources, I and I am sure the owners will expect top 6 as minimum next season and I am far from convinced LR is the man for the job.

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Re: Richardson out

by Linden Jones' Tash » 08 Apr 2026 11:42

I'm sorry, but I fundamentally disagree with any football fan who claims post hoc that they would accept a mid table finish for more watchable football...

For a mid table finish to occur, by definition the team loses more games...

and losing games when playing more 'watchable football' would be incredibly frustrating....

'We didn't deserved that'....

'The better team lost'...

And so on...

And given how toxic things get when we lose in 6/7 place, then mid table would be infinitely worse...

If you are a football spectator then its a fine aspiration, but no fan should want this...

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Re: Richardson out

by Winston Biscuit » 08 Apr 2026 12:19

League table from the day he took over

https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/co ... -and-away/

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Re: Richardson out

by Hound » 08 Apr 2026 12:29

The football under Hunt (this season) was worse imo. It was clueless, absolutely no better than what LR has done

I do find it a bit odd that people say the football was that awful against Lincoln. It really wasn’t. Played some nice stuff just couldn’t beat a very good block. It wasn’t amazing but it wasn’t bad.

Obvs some games have been but others have been decent enough - Wigan and Plymouth at home for example

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Re: Richardson out

by Snowflake Royal » 08 Apr 2026 12:29

andrew1957 wrote: 08 Apr 2026 11:12 I am not one to want managers sacked. I know I am in a minority, but I absolutely believe that Noel Hunt would have turned this season round if he had not been sacked. At least under Hunt the football was watchable.

I have watched RFC for decades and I just cannot remember the type of football being as unwatchable as it has been under LR. Maybe it was just as bad under Brendan Rodgers? The question is whether this is the LR style and we get more of the same gutless hoofball next season - or is he capable of changing the way we play? I know it is a results business, but at the end of the day it is also about entertainment and crowd numbers will not begin to increase substantially unless things change. The owners have a big decision to make in my opinion.
Not really what anyone said at the time.

Football fans, less attention span and memory than goldfish

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Re: Richardson out

by Snowflake Royal » 08 Apr 2026 12:34

Wycombe Royal wrote: 08 Apr 2026 11:28 I don't believe this is the way Richardson wants us to play, but he is trying to get results with the players he has. He has had one transfer window, and therefore doesn't have the type of players in key positions he wants.

He knows we need pace, in midfield, the wings and up top - we have two quick wide players, but how often have both been fit to be in the same team. Our midfield is just not dynamic enough, it offers little going forward and loses the ball frequently putting pressure on the defence, hence why we rarely keep clean sheets.

I firmly believe our defence is one of the best in the division, but it just can't cope with the midfield offering little protection in front of it.

It is definitely a work in progress, and I remember back to Coppell's tenure, and even Pardew's, that it took 3 or 4 transfer windows to build the right team. Take a look at Lincoln, they have been building gradually for a number of seasons to get where they are now. They don't have any big stars, but they have a team that play for and compliment each other. We are a long way from having that, but constantly changing a manager will never get you there.
Welcome back Wycombe. Certainly can't agree with your view of our defence... to me it's the clear weak link in the team, albeit a lot stronger with Williams and Ward.

I do think the general point about a good defence appearing bad because of a weak midfield is often a very good one though

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Re: Richardson out

by Snowflake Royal » 08 Apr 2026 12:35

Linden Jones' Tash wrote: 08 Apr 2026 11:42 I'm sorry, but I fundamentally disagree with any football fan who claims post hoc that they would accept a mid table finish for more watchable football...

For a mid table finish to occur, by definition the team loses more games...

and losing games when playing more 'watchable football' would be incredibly frustrating....

'We didn't deserved that'....

'The better team lost'...

And so on...

And given how toxic things get when we lose in 6/7 place, then mid table would be infinitely worse...

If you are a football spectator then its a fine aspiration, but no fan should want this...
100%

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Re: Richardson out

by Royal Rother » 08 Apr 2026 13:10

I will happily admit that I am more a spectator than a real supporter of any team these days.

The level of comparitive success achieved by (historically "my" 3 teams) Reading, Arsenal and England in recent times has given me very little enjoyment.

Obviously the quality was likely to be pretty high, but watching Real Madrid v Bayern Munich last night was far more enjoyable than 95% of the frustrating dross served up by the 3 above. Tuning in to watch those 3 almost always leaves me feeling WTAF did I bother.

No point taking me to task on it, it's just how it is for me these days.

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Re: Richardson out

by South Coast Royal » 08 Apr 2026 14:14

Winston Biscuit wrote: 08 Apr 2026 12:19 League table from the day he took over

https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/co ... -and-away/
Mildly interesting.
Not much change from the current table other than Stockport having dropped off a bit.

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Re: Richardson out

by Sutekh » 08 Apr 2026 15:38

Winston Biscuit wrote: 08 Apr 2026 12:19 League table from the day he took over

https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/co ... -and-away/
You can criticise him on the style of play but he’s largely working to get the best out of what he inherited. If the season had started on 1st January (so LR would have been in a month or so, assessed things and then started adding the new pieces he wants) then Reading would currently be 4th, 3 points off of the top 2 and ahead of Cardiff, yet many are calling for him to go :roll: just what do you want a manager to do? You can’t build a Lamborghini or a Roller from a box containing the parts of a Volkswagon Beetle.

We’ve had all the “sack the manager now” routines for the last few years and it has improved precisely nothing and I don’t think the club is going to be able to attract the likes of a Luis Enrique, Julian Nagelsman, Sebastian Hoeness or even a Chris Wilder so let Leam get through the summer and see what’s happening in the Autumn before starting any inquisitions.

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Re: Richardson out

by morganb » 08 Apr 2026 16:00

What's would everyone prefer?

  • Unattractive football, contending for the play-offs
  • Attractive football, flirting with relegation
  • Mildly attractive football, mid-table finish
Note:
  • Attractive football, contending for the play-offs
is not an option, but nor is

  • Unattractive football, flirting with relegation

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