Coach Travel Aston Villa & Wigan

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Coach Travel Aston Villa & Wigan

by STAR TRAVEL » 06 Aug 2006 22:17

The first Two games are as follows:

Aston Villa 23/08/2006 Depart Mad Stad 3.30pm
Depart Station Hill 3.45pm

Price £15.00

Wigan 26/08/2006 Depart Mad Stad 9.15am
Depart Station Hill 9.30am

Price £20.00

Other times & prices TBA
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IMPORTANT NOTICE !!

Youths members please note that due to legal requirements STAR are no longer able to take bookings for unaccompanied youths on the coaches.



The STAR HQ will be open to take memberships & coach bookings on Tuesday 8th August between 7.00pm-9.30pm.

Bookings will be taken as usual on matchdays in the STAR HQ

The Sales Centre will not be taking STAR coach bookings for these games.

The STAR HQ will also be open on the following dates.


Tuesday 15th August 7pm-9.30pm
Thursday 17th August 7pm-9.30pm

Wednesday 23rd August 10am-4pm

Tuesday 29th August 7pm-9.30pm
Thursday 31st August 7pm-9.30pm

Tuesday 5th September 7pm-9.30pm
Thursday 7th September 7pm-9.30pm

Tuesday 12th September 7pm-930pm
Thursday 14th September 7pm-9.30pm

A decision on further opening times will be announced in due course.

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by Cavaman » 06 Aug 2006 23:17

Can we book coach seats by email?

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by STAR TRAVEL » 06 Aug 2006 23:26

Unfortunately not. We have to take payment at the time of booking.

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Re: Coach Travel Aston Villa & Wigan

by Warfield Royal » 06 Aug 2006 23:59

STAR TRAVEL Tuesday 8th August between 7.00pm-9.30pm.

Tuesday 15th August 7pm-9.30pm
Thursday 17th August 7pm-9.30pm

Wednesday 23rd August 10am-4pm

Tuesday 29th August 7pm-9.30pm
Thursday 31st August 7pm-9.30pm

Tuesday 5th September 7pm-9.30pm
Thursday 7th September 7pm-9.30pm

Tuesday 12th September 7pm-930pm
Thursday 14th September 7pm-9.30pm


Respect to STAR, this is a significant endeavour to man STAR HQ for all these times. Is it right that the hut doesn’t have a window? I’d hate to be stuck in there and not be able to see out, especially on match days with all the fans walking past. How about a fans appeal to raise funds to buy STAR HQ a window?

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by earley_royals » 07 Aug 2006 00:02

Out of interest, what do you class as 'youth'.


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by Readingfanman » 07 Aug 2006 00:28

Rules out STAR compltley then for me this season. :roll:

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by The 17 Bus » 07 Aug 2006 08:01

Thats a big shame, as going on the official coaches will be seen as safe by most parents.

What do the new rules say STAR?

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by Farnborough Royal » 07 Aug 2006 08:06

Im 14. My dad can't make away games, so I sign up for STAR so I can go on the coach. Now I find out I won't be allowed on my own. Why didn't STAR say anything before I signed up? :evil:

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Re: Coach Travel Aston Villa & Wigan

by STAR TRAVEL » 07 Aug 2006 08:41

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STAR TRAVEL Tuesday 8th August between 7.00pm-9.30pm.

Tuesday 15th August 7pm-9.30pm
Thursday 17th August 7pm-9.30pm

Wednesday 23rd August 10am-4pm

Tuesday 29th August 7pm-9.30pm
Thursday 31st August 7pm-9.30pm

Tuesday 5th September 7pm-9.30pm
Thursday 7th September 7pm-9.30pm

Tuesday 12th September 7pm-930pm
Thursday 14th September 7pm-9.30pm


Respect to STAR, this is a significant endeavour to man STAR HQ for all these times. Is it right that the hut doesn’t have a window? I’d hate to be stuck in there and not be able to see out, especially on match days with all the fans walking past. How about a fans appeal to raise funds to buy STAR HQ a window?



We do have windows, two in fact, but they are at the back of the unit. They overlook the retail park.


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by STAR TRAVEL » 07 Aug 2006 08:58

The 17 Bus Thats a big shame, as going on the official coaches will be seen as safe by most parents.

What do the new rules say STAR?


It is all to do with child protection. Anyone that comes in to contact with children in a working environment, school teachers etc have to have a CRB (criminal records bureau)check.
That in itself is not a problem, its the length of time it takes to process the check. anything up to three months.
That would make it impossible for us to function. We have excellent stewards, but a really big game where there was a need for extra coaches at short notice also means extra stewards.

STAR CAMPAIGNS could probably be more specific.

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by STAR TRAVEL » 07 Aug 2006 09:11

earley_royals Out of interest, what do you class as 'youth'.


In the eyes of the law anyone under eighteen is NOT an adult.

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by The_Cat » 07 Aug 2006 09:23

What was the point of me joining STAR when I can now not use the coaches. :roll:

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by Royal Lady » 07 Aug 2006 09:38

fair comment The Cat. I don't believe this legislation has only come into force this week.


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by The 17 Bus » 07 Aug 2006 09:47

I would assujme that under 18's are allowed to go with friends parents?

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by STAR TRAVEL » 07 Aug 2006 09:51

The 17 Bus I would assujme that under 18's are allowed to go with friends parents?


As long as you are with responsible adults , there will not be a problem, the key word here is unaccompanied.

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by STAR TRAVEL » 07 Aug 2006 09:53

Royal Lady fair comment The Cat. I don't believe this legislation has only come into force this week.




CRB's no, but the implications for STAR as far as taking unaccompanied youths has only recently been brought to our attention.

It is a sign of the times we live in I am afraid.

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by The 17 Bus » 07 Aug 2006 10:13

Hmmm, many folk will have had CRB checks already, it is time that those that have had them were given proof.

I assume RL has been checked, so in theory she could accompany under 18's on the coaches?

It seems silly that people have to have a check for each different event that they might have to be in charge of children..

I wonder what the implication is at the grounds, surely the responsible adult still has to have responsibility during the match for said youngsters?

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by Royal Lady » 07 Aug 2006 10:23

I've had the checks yes. I can understand the sad need for this nowadays, but you could argue that if the "responsible" adult isn't the parent of the under 18, then they should have CRB checks too - where will it end. :roll:

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by STAR TRAVEL » 07 Aug 2006 10:33

Royal Lady I've had the checks yes. I can understand the sad need for this nowadays, but you could argue that if the "responsible" adult isn't the parent of the under 18, then they should have CRB checks too - where will it end. :roll:


It is a very frustrating situation all round.


Another scenario for you. If a youth(male or female) should be arrested at a game, the steward may well find themselves in the situation of having to stay behind and be the "responsible adult" Or if the youth were taken ill, staying behind until such time as a parent could get there.

These are some of the responsibilities that stewards may have to deal with.

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by STAR Liaison » 07 Aug 2006 12:02

The 17 Bus Hmmm, many folk will have had CRB checks already, it is time that those that have had them were given proof.

I assume RL has been checked, so in theory she could accompany under 18's on the coaches?

It seems silly that people have to have a check for each different event that they might have to be in charge of children..

I wonder what the implication is at the grounds, surely the responsible adult still has to have responsibility during the match for said youngsters?


There are people in STAR who have been CRB checked but as STAR TRAVEL has said we would have to get ALL possible stewards checked as when there is immense demand (like the play-off in Cardiff) we would not have time to get volunteers checked in time.

In addition a CRB check for one purpose cannot be used for another so each one would have to be run through the check again even if they have been already passed. We don't make the rules, and we have members with some experience but even then we are all on a learning curve with these new laws.

In fact RFC brought it to our attention when they were informed at a football meeting that some people believe it applies to football grounds, so for your last point there are some who believe that unaccompanied youths under 18 should not be allowed into any game!

It may well be that given time the pendulum will swing back but as far as we understand the law we will not be able to allow anyone under 18 to travel unaccomanied unless the steward of the coach is CRB checked and takes responsibility for minors in the near future. We are not prepared to ask volunteers to take that responsibility.

If there is someone out there who can give us chapter and verse about it and show that we are wrong we are only too happy to listen as we have not got the relevant expertise on the Board and so our interpretation may not be correct. However, saying it is crazy and so can't be true is not enough, and another club I am involved with has changed its rules so that under 18s have to be accompanied by a parent or guardian!

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