We're ManchesteROFL United, we do what we want

[SPARTA]

[paultheroyal]

Give it a rest ffs.

Pepe.... He can have this one because personally I am loving the demise!

[stealthpapes]

Give it a rest ffs.

Liked it most when he had to have the terms of the bet spelt out to him.

[King of Sting]

Give it a rest ffs.

Liked it most when he had to have the terms of the bet spelt out to him.

Not me m8. I understood from the start. Just didn't believe that Schards had any intention of cashing out.

[Big Foot]

Dowd got it wrong at the end there - harshly red carded Vidic and then bottled red carding Rafael when he should've been sent off instead.

[paultheroyal]

Dowd got it wrong at the end there - harshly red carded Vidic and then bottled red carding Rafael when he should've been sent off instead.

Yep bad foul by vidic but a yellow, Rafael an easy red! Vidic out for 3 games will really hurt

[Lacoste]

I'm not advocating sacking Moyes, but how long would you give him?

He has never won anything and TBH did OK with Everton but didn't really pull up any trees.

It was always said that it would be a great job for the person AFTER SAF's replacement. Who is out there that would give UTD the longevity that they want? I would go for Klopp but he will never leave Dortmund.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Vidic has gotten away with crap loads over the years, so....its a big so what?

For some, there was no winners of preferrence today

[Agent Balti]

I'm not advocating sacking Moyes, but how long would you give him?

He has never won anything and TBH did OK with Everton but didn't really pull up any trees.

It was always said that it would be a great job for the person AFTER SAF's replacement. Who is out there that would give UTD the longevity that they want? I would go for Klopp but he will never leave Dortmund.

What is probably more to the point is what are they expecting from Moyes? What finances are they giving him? And are they expecting him to do what he did at Everton (i.e. Buy, pretty much, on the cheap?)

At the moment, I can't see anyone really wanting to go to United that absolutely top drawer. Player or Manager.

[paultheroyal]

They won't make top 4 - champions league unthinkable without them in it?

[SLAMMED]

champions league unthinkable without them in it?

Why?

[King of Sting]

I'm not advocating sacking Moyes, but how long would you give him?

He has never won anything and TBH did OK with Everton but didn't really pull up any trees.

It was always said that it would be a great job for the person AFTER SAF's replacement. Who is out there that would give UTD the longevity that they want? I would go for Klopp but he will never leave Dortmund.

I think the Glazers (not Fergie) chose Moyes because he done quite well on a limited budget at Everton. They don't want to buy the real top players anymore. So they pretend to bid for the likes of Fabregas last summer. No way were Barcelona going to accept £30m. Bale for about £70m when Real Madrid were pushing close to £100m. They thought that if United turned into Arsenal (ie constantly qualifying for champions league without winning it) then there sponsorship deals etc would allow them to service the debt and make a tidy profit. That plan seems to have backfired though because 4th place is looking unlikely. They don't give a feck about United fans they just want to maximise profit. A full stadium for every home game with huge sponsorship deals without paying the real top wages (they wont really fight for Rooney to stay in the summer because of his £250,000 a week) is utopia for them.

[Sanguine]

They won't make top 4 - champions league unthinkable without them in it?

It will be weird.

I'm interested what a season (or more) out of the CL might do for their finances.

[Agent Balti]

Something twisted in me wants them in the Europa League, playing on a Thursday night on ITV4...in Siberia.

[Handsome Man]

Dowd got it wrong at the end there - harshly red carded Vidic and then bottled red carding Rafael when he should've been sent off instead.

Yep bad foul by vidic but a yellow, Rafael an easy red! Vidic out for 3 games will really hurt

Vidic lost his temper whereas Rafael was just being incompetent.

[Starfish]

They won't make top 4 - champions league unthinkable without them in it?

Bayern Munich didn't qualify for the 2007/2008 CL (if memory serves). And they recognized their weaknesses, came back, rebuilt and won the league the year after. And continued to rebuild and ..

[Starfish]

I would go for Klopp but he will never leave Dortmund.

Ooooh yes he will ...

[King of Sting]

I would go for Klopp but he will never leave Dortmund.

Ooooh yes he will ...

I agree with Starfish here. Surely a time will come when Klopp will want the chance to compete on a level playing field with the most powerful teams in Europe. Man City, Man United, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich or PSG. I think Chelsea, and Man City are sorted for the next few years manager wise and I cant see him going to Bayern even if Pep where to want another break. That leaves the two Spanish clubs, PSG and Man United. I have a feeling PSG might be the team for Klopp. I really hope he doesn't follow Moyes at United because he is a great manager.

[SPARTA]

Dowd got it wrong at the end there - harshly red carded Vidic and then bottled red carding Rafael when he should've been sent off instead.

Yep bad foul by vidic but a yellow, Rafael an easy red! Vidic out for 3 games will really hurt

Very harsh, very harsh.

[URZZZZZ]

I was so happy when fergie quit, even happier seeing them decline.
* evil laugh *