MadStad steward watch 09/10

[Dirk Gently]

RFc stewards are oxf*rd FACT

Thanks for that witty and insightful contribution to the debate.

[Elliott]

The first thing they could explain is why the stewards do that walking to the top of the stand thing at games, i have never understood that one, perhaps someone could explain.

IMHO it just makes them look like they are trying to intimidate the fans, especially as it is done on all walkways at the same time, looks like a military idea, rather than keeping an eye for potential trouble.

The reason they do this every 15 minutes is to check no one has got bottles or cans of alcohol by their feet.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Ty for the answer Elliot, but the alcohol is in the coke cups bought with the beer at the same time.

TBH that is the worst reason i could have thought of.

[SCIAG]

It's just to do a safety check right up the stand.

It's hardly intimidatory - in fact if you just watch the game you wouldn;t even notice it !

It's also don eby the safety stewards not the tangoes so they really aren;t bothered about whether some spotty 14 year old is trying to act like an extra off Green Street.

[Royal Lady]

Well, it's the yellow jacketed safety stewards who keep running up to the back telling people to sit down and generally being mini-hitlers that I object to. Especially number 19.

[Terminal Boardom]

Can't even have a difference of opinion with another supporter without the stewards getting wound up. Second warning my arse and the bulging eyes!!! Cocks all of them.

[madreadingfan]

the stewards are oxf*rd terrible
just everytime they come up, do what we did on wenesday just sing "stand up if you hate stewards" because than they started getting some abuse from reading fans and just oxf*rd off back down the stairs again!! im sick of not being able to enjoy football at matches cos i hear a twat in my ear shouting CAN YOU SIT DOWN, it just absoloutley destroys the atmosphere!!

[Silver Fox]

Same old stewarding experience for me on Wednesday, barely noticed them at all

[STAR Liaison]

would the guy who contacted STAR about shadowing a tango please pm me as I have not had a reply to my email to him.

[Hugo Boss]

Same old stewarding experience for me on Wednesday, barely noticed them at all

LOLikewise.

[gazzer, loyal royal]

RFC should cut the allocation of ALL clubs that have caused trouble in the past, 500 for Cardiff would be fine, let them watch on the telly at their shiny new ground, untill clubs are able and actually do this the problems will continue. I feel sure that Sky, or whoever cover the game for highlights would love acut of the ticket money from Cardiff fans at the new gaff.

Does it have a name??

RFC should insist that visiting clubs work with them to deal with the problem. Film those breaching ground regulations and then insist the visiting club deal with them. Maybe if the visiting supporters realised they faced the same sanctions as the home supporters for persistently standing etc. i.e. losing their season ticket or right to buy tickets for future games, they might be more inclined to comply.

If any visiting club won't co-operate then take the financial hit and reduce their ticket allowance next time around.

And,to make the point once again, if the club really are tackling the offenders quietly in the concourses and dealing with them there, why the f*ck aren't they prepared to tell us how many visiting supporters have been dealt with in that manner? I would suggest that the only reason they won't is because to do so will show that they aren't actually doing what they tell us they do.

happened to United in 2008. Their fans refused to sit down in the fixture the year before, so their allocation was cut by 10%, which i think was 250 less tickets than the year before

[Dirk Gently]

Why should the home club take the financial hit for something the away club's supporters did the previous year?

And if so, doesn't it that just mean that you're stereotyping all supporters from that club as "problem" supporters? Why should there be fewer tickets available to them because the majority stood last time they came - how do you know that the vast majority weren't just standing because those in front of them were standing?

In any case, all such restrictions of allocation over teh years have been proven to have zero effect on reducing numbers standing.

[T.R.O.L.I.]

In any case, all such restrictions of allocation over teh years have been proven to have zero effect on reducing numbers standing.

Another reason for the implementation of "safe standing areas" at football grounds.

[Dirk Gently]

In any case, all such restrictions of allocation over the years have been proven to have zero effect on reducing numbers standing.

Another reason for the implementation of "safe standing areas" at football grounds.

It's all about choice. Let those who want to sit have an area where they can do that safely and let those who want to stand have an area where they can do that safely and all the problems migically vanish! It really is that simple.....

[Winchester Royal]

Didn't see any problems at Peterborough, where there was indeed a choice.

[Maguire]

Didn't see any problems at Peterborough, where there was indeed a choice.

You're kidding right? I couldn't breath in the crush after Church's goal. Plus I think I stood on some chewing gum.

[handbags_harris]

Didn't see any problems at Peterborough, where there was indeed a choice.

You're kidding right? I couldn't breath in the crush after Church's goal. Plus I think I stood on some chewing gum.

I nearly killed Schards and min-Schards when celebrating the first goal...

[Big Foot]

You mean there was a terrace at Peterborough and NOBODY DIED ???


Please, shut this death hazard now!

[RoyalBlue]

Why should the home club take the financial hit for something the away club's supporters did the previous year?

And if so, doesn't it that just mean that you're stereotyping all supporters from that club as "problem" supporters? Why should there be fewer tickets available to them because the majority stood last time they came - how do you know that the vast majority weren't just standing because those in front of them were standing?

Right, so the vast majority are innocent victims forced to stand by the unruly ones at the front. No problem from now on then. The Mad Stad stewards can take proper enforcement action against the minority of unruly supporters standing at the front and all the rest of the visiting supporters will sit down with absolutely no problem. Everyone, including the home supporters who are jumped on the moment they even look like they might step out of line, will be happy.

But, of course, this will never happen will it?

So here's another solution. Tell visiting clubs whose supporters have caused problems in the past that they will now have to provide stewards and enforce the no standing rules themselves. They will then have similar effective sanctions to our own stewards i.e. the ability to deny the offenders entry to future home games at their own stadium. What's more, as the tickets are sold through the visiting club, they will also be able to track back through their own records after the game to identify offenders who they might not want to tackle there and then. Failure of visiting clubs to comply will result in tickets being refused for future fixtures.

So maybe there will be a reduction in income but surely RFC wouldn't wish to be seen to put income ahead of safety and they are constantly reminding home supporters how dangerous standing is.

Likewise, it will be very difficult for the Football League to take RFC to task for taking action that is necessary to ensure ground and safety regulations are complied with.

[Sun Tzu]

So here's another solution. Tell visiting clubs whose supporters have caused problems in the past that they will now have to provide stewards and enforce the no standing rules themselves. They will then have similar effective sanctions to our own stewards i.e. the ability to deny the offenders entry to future home games at their own stadium. What's more, as the tickets are sold through the visiting club, they will also be able to track back through their own records after the game to identify offenders who they might not want to tackle there and then. Failure of visiting clubs to comply will result in tickets being refused for future fixtures.
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How would that work ?

There isn't (as far as I am aware) any requirement for ticket sales to only be made to named individuals.

I don;t think you can expect the visiting club to have any records that identify exactly who bought every ticket, much less who used every ticket or who sat in which seat.

It's an unworkable suggestion, which doesn;t address the perceived problem.