A bit worrying

[Big Foot]

and wasn't at the game last night

Ooh Biggy, think you're wrong there sonny.

I was sat away from my new Season Ticket just up from you and as you weren't outside at H/T I assumed you'd given up

See you Saturday

[working class hero]

LOLZ - I wasn't at the game, but Schards certainly was!!!

Unless of course he was playing away....

[Dirk Gently]

LOLZ - I wasn't at the game, but Schards certainly was!!!

Is that what he told you? Aww, bless...

[Royal Lady]

and wasn't at the game last night

Ooh Biggy, think you're wrong there sonny.

I was sat away from my new Season Ticket just up from you and as you weren't outside at H/T I assumed you'd given up

See you Saturday

I thought you said on another thread that you were in North Stand?

You won't see him on Saturday. He'll be in Glasgow. HTH. Plus he goes outside at half time to keep me company whilst I'm having a cigarette. Not that it has anything to do with you. Of course.

[Schards#2]

LOLZ - I wasn't at the game, but Schards certainly was!!!

Is that what he told you? Aww, bless...

The defence calls Heathrow Royal..........

[Dirk Gently]

LOLZ - I wasn't at the game, but Schards certainly was!!!

Is that what he told you? Aww, bless...

The defence calls Heathrow Royal..........

If that's the calibre of witness you're relying on then you're in big trouble.....

[The 17 Bus]

Big Foot is not allowed to spot you tho, as it will be his last ever spotted.

Must be great to gloat over attendances, freezing cold, expensive tickets on match day, until they extend though you cannot be proven right Schards, IF we fail to sell 30k in an expanded stadium against the top 4 I will admit that you were, until then not. A game aganst blackpool on a freezing tuesday proves nothing at all.

[Schards#2]

Big Foot is not allowed to spot you tho, as it will be his last ever spotted.

Must be great to gloat over attendances, freezing cold, expensive tickets on match day, until they extend though you cannot be proven right Schards, IF we fail to sell 30k in an expanded stadium against the top 4 I will admit that you were, until then not. A game aganst blackpool on a freezing tuesday proves nothing at all.

I think it's a reasonable assumption to make that if you can't sell out a 24,000 stadium, you can't sell a 30,000 one. I don't think you actually need to see the 6,000 empty seats at a cost of £20 million odd to demonstrate this.

[The 17 Bus]

Big Foot is not allowed to spot you tho, as it will be his last ever spotted.

Must be great to gloat over attendances, freezing cold, expensive tickets on match day, until they extend though you cannot be proven right Schards, IF we fail to sell 30k in an expanded stadium against the top 4 I will admit that you were, until then not. A game aganst blackpool on a freezing tuesday proves nothing at all.

I think it's a reasonable assumption to make that if you can't sell out a 24,000 stadium, you can't sell a 30,000 one. I don't think you actually need to see the 6,000 empty seats at a cost of £20 million odd to demonstrate this.

Except we did sell out with more demand many times at 24k, when the product was there, I agree that that may only be for the top teams, however we need to maximise income, we cannot move much further ahead with a ground this size. Perhaps the answer is to expand, but leave the seats out, North and South, this waty they can add the non attendance stuff, like bars, food etc, and add the actual seats at a later date, similar to MK Dons.

If we get the product we can sell more, using sales promotions etc.

However the club need to be progressive in this, none of the Y26 sh!te, that has been embarrassing.

[working class hero]

You also need to factor in that with extra seats unit costs can be cut to fill them - and still bring in more cash per game.

I suspect that if we go up there will again be a huge swell in demand. Perhaps we should start to extend so we can be finished for next season. Then sell on a 2 year contract for STs so that over the 2 seasons the seat cost is totally covered.

I hope that half STs this time around are not being sold on the same terms as full STs. It would be nice to see those who kept the faith at the start of this season getting an advantage over those who lacked belief!

[working class hero]

none of the Y26 sh!te, that has been embarrassing

I do realise that many of these fans act like retarded baboons........ but to call them sh!te is a bit much...

[Schards#2]

You also need to factor in that with extra seats unit costs can be cut to fill them - and still bring in more cash per game.

I suspect that if we go up there will again be a huge swell in demand. Perhaps we should start to extend so we can be finished for next season. Then sell on a 2 year contract for STs so that over the 2 seasons the seat cost is totally covered.

I hope that half STs this time around are not being sold on the same terms as full STs. It would be nice to see those who kept the faith at the start of this season getting an advantage over those who lacked belief!

I doubt this actually. I think demand peaked with the first ever Championship triumph and first ever Premiership season. As well as the economic downturn, I suspect there will be a sense of "been there done that" with the less diehard and they will be more selective with their games.

[Sun Tzu]

We need to bear in mind that Schards made his 'no expansion' statement based on his knowledge that we would be relegated and there would be a global recession.

Clearly in an economic downturn and playing the likes of Blackpool and Coventry in midweek / televised Championship games filling a 24k stadium is not likely.

In terms of the longer term future of the club though there still isn't really an argument against needing a bigger ground.

[Big Foot]

Ooh Biggy, think you're wrong there sonny.

I was sat away from my new Season Ticket just up from you and as you weren't outside at H/T I assumed you'd given up

See you Saturday

I thought you said on another thread that you were in North Stand?

You won't see him on Saturday. He'll be in Glasgow. HTH. Plus he goes outside at half time to keep me company whilst I'm having a cigarette. Not that it has anything to do with you. Of course.

I come and go as I please, North Stand, Y25, Y26, Y23, Y22

If it's nothing to do with me, don't mention it to me unless you're just seeking attention.

[Royal Lady]

I was just putting you straight BF. Wouldn't want to let the true facts get in the way of your stupid little posts would we.

[Schards#2]

We need to bear in mind that Schards made his 'no expansion' statement based on his knowledge that we would be relegated and there would be a global recession.

Clearly in an economic downturn and playing the likes of Blackpool and Coventry in midweek / televised Championship games filling a 24k stadium is not likely.

In terms of the longer term future of the club though there still isn't really an argument against needing a bigger ground.

Please tell me this in tongue in cheek.

No doubt when we finally have a home game on a Saturday that isn't televised, it'll duly sell out. Only time will tell.

[mini _dariusz]

Big Foot is not allowed to spot you tho, as it will be his last ever spotted.

Must be great to gloat over attendances, freezing cold, expensive tickets on match day, until they extend though you cannot be proven right Schards, IF we fail to sell 30k in an expanded stadium against the top 4 I will admit that you were, until then not. A game aganst blackpool on a freezing tuesday proves nothing at all.

I think it's a reasonable assumption to make that if you can't sell out a 24,000 stadium, you can't sell a 30,000 one. I don't think you actually need to see the 6,000 empty seats at a cost of £20 million odd to demonstrate this.

Elm Park was not exactly sold out every week, yes attendance rose when the MS came along......

I guess that means you're wrong Schardsy baby.

[mini _dariusz]

Yet another thread i come across where RL and Schards are getting in a hissy fit.

[Sun Tzu]

We need to bear in mind that Schards made his 'no expansion' statement based on his knowledge that we would be relegated and there would be a global recession.

Clearly in an economic downturn and playing the likes of Blackpool and Coventry in midweek / televised Championship games filling a 24k stadium is not likely.

In terms of the longer term future of the club though there still isn't really an argument against needing a bigger ground.

Please tell me this in tongue in cheek.

No doubt when we finally have a home game on a Saturday that isn't televised, it'll duly sell out. Only time will tell.

Schards in 'I have no sensible arguement therefore I'll just make up rubbish' shocker !!

How does the attendance for a Championship game on any day have any bearing on the long term income generation needs of a football club ?

I think it's a real achievement to have one thread on which you try and escape admitting your mistakes by claiming that you will only be proved right or wrong at some point in the future and another one on which it is the events of today that show you are right about along term issue !

[Quagmire]

LOLZ

Why don't you dig up the "Hard to see progress" thread. Oh....wait........

LOLZ indeed.