I especially didn't mention Eja for this reason. This lad will split Reading opinion.John Madejski's Wallet wrote:Hehe I literally saw the opposite.PieEater wrote:I thought Eja was poor, always running side ways and backwards, Kelly was equally poor but at least gets at people at wins tackles which I can't recall Eja doing.![]()
We were all mentioning the number of time Eja won the ball in the middle and that Kelly was useless
Harsh to pick on one poster in particular, but in the interest of avoiding fake news, I feel obliged to point out that according to the TLS football app, Kelly made 12 forward passes*, more than any other midfielder (Swift and Ejaria next on 9 each), as part of his 49 overall passes (Swift second highest midfielder on 47). He completed 43 of them, for a completion rate of 88% (Swift completed 40 - 85%).2 world wars, 1 world cup wrote: Kelly was generally very poor and I was one of the few calling for him to come inI think I counted 3 forward passes by him and everything else was sidewards if he wasn't losing the ball.
The Lino missed one of the most clear cut corners you will ever see when their defender slid the ball out of play.John Madejski's Wallet wrote:Martinez looks class at shotstopping and claiming crosses, but fukk me I don't buy into this 'can play football' stuff. He's just as appalling at playing our defenders into trouble as every one of our recent keepers who have tried in this passing style. And then when he does hoof it, they are rubbish scuffs.2 world wars, 1 world cup wrote:And last but not least for me: Martinez. Possibly the best keeper I've seen play for Reading. For me even better than USA.
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But he makes me feel really relaxed when he's there. Really happy to have him.
I thought they were all show asa team with little by way of end product. Trying to play a similar way to us. Ok on the ball but pretty toothless in the final third. Most of their chances came after we’d sloppily given away possession in dangerous parts of the pitchZip wrote:A number of Blackburn fans saying we were the worst team they have played against this season. On the first half performance that’s fair enough but I thought we played well in the second period.
Bit harsh considering we outplayed them at their place and they only got away with a draw because of McShane.Zip wrote:A number of Blackburn fans saying we were the worst team they have played against this season. On the first half performance that’s fair enough but I thought we played well in the second period.
Screw the Blackburn fans. 2-1.Zip wrote:A number of Blackburn fans saying we were the worst team they have played against this season. On the first half performance that’s fair enough but I thought we played well in the second period.
I admire the fact that you lift your football statistics from the Times Literary Supplement. I didn't even know they had a football app. Respect.Brain Traysers wrote:Harsh to pick on one poster in particular, but in the interest of avoiding fake news, I feel obliged to point out that according to the TLS football app, Kelly made 12 forward passes*, more than any other midfielder (Swift and Ejaria next on 9 each), as part of his 49 overall passes (Swift second highest midfielder on 47). He completed 43 of them, for a completion rate of 88% (Swift completed 40 - 85%).2 world wars, 1 world cup wrote: Kelly was generally very poor and I was one of the few calling for him to come inI think I counted 3 forward passes by him and everything else was sidewards if he wasn't losing the ball.
He also won the ball in the defensive third 6 times (Yiadom won it there 7 times, but no other midfielder won it more than 3), and 3 more times in the middle third (Swift 4, and Ejaria 5). He therefore won the ball 9 times in total, level with Yiadom (9), and ahead of Ejaria (8), Blackett (7), Moore (6), Swift (5), Richards (3) and Aluko/Miazga (2 each).
He only lost possession 8 times (Swift 15, Ejaria 11, Richards 8, Aluko 7)
*-there is a valid counterpoint on sideways vs forward pass, and I don't have the definition. And you all are perfectly obliged to feel he played badly in spite of the above stats.
This was how I saw it too. Think Kelly has to play when Eza isn't available, just offers us a base to build upon.genome wrote:Ejaria was sloppy, gave it away far too much and was too casual. Couple of lovely passes too but I thought Kelly was a bit more solid.secks wrote: Ejara was miles better than Kelly, especially in the the second half. Mark off for Meite who should've put away one if not both his chances.
Never going to happen. All 3 can do better than us financially and in terms of standard of football. Oliveira is out of contract and could get a move to a big club in Europe, Miazga would go to a Premier League team on loan next time around imo and Martinez will in theory be Arsenal's number 2 keeper.From Despair To Where? wrote:If we stay up, we have got to sign Oliviera and get Miazga on a season loan. Wouldn't mind getting Martinez as well.
John Madejski's Wallet wrote:Christ that was an atrocious first half. Worst since the very worst of second season Stamball.
Fair play to Gomez for changing things at HT even though we were 1up.
Kelly, Aluko and Swift is woeful and was always going to be. But even knowing that I was shocked at the poor decisions. Blackett kept making blind balls back into the middle, Aluko making blind turns, Kelly always just playing it to the feet of the nearest man regardless of whether the pass was on. Just painful
Meite is really not very good, but made all the difference today. He brought effort, strength and drive and it lifted the fans and the team
The magic 3M's look great as our defensive backbone, even if the keeper is fukking atrocious at playing defenders into trouble
I really just do not get how anyone can see any of Martinez's performances since he joined us that way. Try running back through game footage and producing evidence to support those claims. I'm pretty sure I can guess what our defenders would say as well. Rubbish scuffs when he hoofs it?John Madejski's Wallet wrote:Martinez looks class at shotstopping and claiming crosses, but fukk me I don't buy into this 'can play football' stuff. He's just as appalling at playing our defenders into trouble as every one of our recent keepers who have tried in this passing style. And then when he does hoof it, they are rubbish scuffs.2 world wars, 1 world cup wrote:And last but not least for me: Martinez. Possibly the best keeper I've seen play for Reading. For me even better than USA.
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But he makes me feel really relaxed when he's there. Really happy to have him.
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