New policy in Y26

[readingbedding]

Y26, full of pondlife.

[RoyalBlue]

On a related note, did anyone see the advert at half-time - of the guy at the bbq acting like a deranged muppet - that was supposed to make you feel guilty for acting like a tit at a match. the guy next to me just giggled, which pretty much sums up its chances of changing behavior. Anyway, seeing as you can't really see the screen from Y26, the area most in need of "re-education" according to the club is the only area that can't get the message. Hey ho.

They've been showing that advert for quite some time. It is just like the 'educational' films the Government put out in an attempt to convince us that they are taking meaningful and effective action on social issues. Equally unconvincing and equally unlikely to have any useful effect whatsoever on the offenders. If anything, I suspect the offenders are likely to laugh at it (confirmed by what you have seen) and treat it as a tribute to their bad language!!

There are others who no doubt regard it as a real life documentary because it's exactly how they would behave at a BBQ!!

Perhaps the football authorities and RFC would be better off looking to turn some poachers into gamekeepers.

[Rex]

This is probably more of an awareness campaign than attempting to re-educate certain supporters. Attending a football match is often seen as a release valve from the pressures of life and as a result can lead to a bad combination of aggression (tension) release and boorish behaviour.

Sadly laddish behaviour can be seen as a badge of honour which can invoke a laugh from peers, ire from supporters not involved or violence as an extreme. They then return to their respectable middle management jobs and repeat the cycle the following week.

The ironic situation for the football fraternity is :
Turn a blind eye and not get involved and let the status quo remain.
Deal with local behaviour and stub it out. (FA / club / police perspective)
Help a fellow supporter who could be getting a kicking (irrespective of circumstance) and become part of the problem.

[M U R T Y]

It appears (can only presume, as no announcement from the club), that this policy is no longer in place, as the tickets for the forthcoming games are available in Y26 via the online service at least.
Common sense at last...

[Gordons Cumming]

This is probably more of an awareness campaign than attempting to re-educate certain supporters. Attending a football match is often seen as a release valve from the pressures of life and as a result can lead to a bad combination of aggression (tension) release and boorish behaviour.

Sadly laddish behaviour can be seen as a badge of honour which can invoke a laugh from peers, ire from supporters not involved or violence as an extreme. They then return to their respectable middle management jobs and repeat the cycle the following week.

The ironic situation for the football fraternity is :
Turn a blind eye and not get involved and let the status quo remain.
Deal with local behaviour and stub it out. (FA / club / police perspective)
Help a fellow supporter who could be getting a kicking (irrespective of circumstance) and become part of the problem.

I wonder why rugby supporters are so much more well behaved?
It shows that they can release themselves from the pressures of life without acting like idiots. Even with heavy amounts of alchohol.
At the Mad Stad they are responsible enough to bring their Guinesses to the seated area.

I wonder why?

[Sun Tzu]

Because for most rugby fans it's a day of drinking with a game of rugby in the background ? There is nothing like the tribal aspect of football and it's a bit like asking why theatre goers or shoppers don;t behave like football fans !

[Gordons Cumming]

Because for most rugby fans it's a day of drinking with a game of rugby in the background ? There is nothing like the tribal aspect of football and it's a bit like asking why theatre goers or shoppers don;t behave like football fans !

Tosh.

[Royal With Cheese]

Sadly that is the attitude of certain supporters who in the cold light of day probably would run and hide if faced with an opposition supporter. Mostly false bravado, beer and peer support can achieve so many things in life!.

Not just that - it's knowing that they can't actually either get to the away support or vice versa. Put them in Elm Park in '83 and they would get slapped on a regular basis against the likes of the Bristol Clubs, Swansea, Cardiff, Millwall and Pompey.

[Toon Toon Blue army]

This is probably more of an awareness campaign than attempting to re-educate certain supporters. Attending a football match is often seen as a release valve from the pressures of life and as a result can lead to a bad combination of aggression (tension) release and boorish behaviour.

Sadly laddish behaviour can be seen as a badge of honour which can invoke a laugh from peers, ire from supporters not involved or violence as an extreme. They then return to their respectable middle management jobs and repeat the cycle the following week.

The ironic situation for the football fraternity is :
Turn a blind eye and not get involved and let the status quo remain.
Deal with local behaviour and stub it out. (FA / club / police perspective)
Help a fellow supporter who could be getting a kicking (irrespective of circumstance) and become part of the problem.

I wonder why rugby supporters are so much more well behaved?
It shows that they can release themselves from the pressures of life without acting like idiots. Even with heavy amounts of alchohol.
At the Mad Stad they are responsible enough to bring their Guinesses to the seated area.

I wonder why?

This topic has been covered to death. The general conclusion is football fans are generaly from a working class background, Rugby fans are much more middle class. Do some research if you are really that interested, there are countless sociological reports on it.

[Rex]

Demographics for football support went out of the window years ago in the upper leagues. Working class - no.

[Gordons Cumming]

This is probably more of an awareness campaign than attempting to re-educate certain supporters. Attending a football match is often seen as a release valve from the pressures of life and as a result can lead to a bad combination of aggression (tension) release and boorish behaviour.

Sadly laddish behaviour can be seen as a badge of honour which can invoke a laugh from peers, ire from supporters not involved or violence as an extreme. They then return to their respectable middle management jobs and repeat the cycle the following week.

The ironic situation for the football fraternity is :
Turn a blind eye and not get involved and let the status quo remain.
Deal with local behaviour and stub it out. (FA / club / police perspective)
Help a fellow supporter who could be getting a kicking (irrespective of circumstance) and become part of the problem.

I wonder why rugby supporters are so much more well behaved?
It shows that they can release themselves from the pressures of life without acting like idiots. Even with heavy amounts of alchohol.
At the Mad Stad they are responsible enough to bring their Guinesses to the seated area.

I wonder why?

This topic has been covered to death. The general conclusion is football fans are generaly from a working class background, Rugby fans are much more middle class. Do some research if you are really that interested, there are countless sociological reports on it.

So working class people are brainless idiots then? Generally speaking.............

Sorry, just an excuse for bad behavior I'm afraid.

[rabidbee]

Bad behaviour which doesn't happen at other working-class sports, like rugby league. (And I believe that union teams like Gloucester are very working class in following, too.)

[RoyalBlue]

I don't think class has anything to do with behaviour. There are plenty of appallingly behaved upper class yobs out there - some even go to watch rugger matches!!

It doesn't make bad behaviour acceptable but is there really any other sport that raises quite the same level of passion as football? (Shankly really wasn't that far off the mark for quite a few people). How many other sports are there where the result of the team being followed literally influences someone's attitude towards life for the day, weekend, or even week?

A rugby team loses and their supporters appear to have forgotten all about the result in a very short space of time and get on with enjoying life. A football team loses and many of its supporters are left on a downer for quite considerable periods of time. Likewise, a good win can leave the supporters on a high for quite a few days!!

[Gordons Cumming]

I don't think class has anything to do with behaviour. There are plenty of appallingly behaved upper class yobs out there - some even go to watch rugger matches!!

It doesn't make bad behaviour acceptable but is there really any other sport that raises quite the same level of passion as football? (Shankly really wasn't that far off the mark for quite a few people). How many other sports are there where the result of the team being followed literally influences someone's attitude towards life for the day, weekend, or even week?

A rugby team loses and their supporters appear to have forgotten all about the result in a very short space of time and get on with enjoying life. A football team loses and many of its supporters are left on a downer for quite considerable periods of time. Likewise, a good win can leave the supporters on a high for quite a few days!!

You know a lot of rugby supporters then?

[Stranded]

I don't think class has anything to do with behaviour. There are plenty of appallingly behaved upper class yobs out there - some even go to watch rugger matches!!

It doesn't make bad behaviour acceptable but is there really any other sport that raises quite the same level of passion as football? (Shankly really wasn't that far off the mark for quite a few people). How many other sports are there where the result of the team being followed literally influences someone's attitude towards life for the day, weekend, or even week?

A rugby team loses and their supporters appear to have forgotten all about the result in a very short space of time and get on with enjoying life. A football team loses and many of its supporters are left on a downer for quite considerable periods of time. Likewise, a good win can leave the supporters on a high for quite a few days!!

You're not far off - I'm a big follower of football and rugby (I come from a working class rugby family) and for a me a key difference is the behaviour of fans after a match has finished...

In rugby, fans are able to accept defeat as part of the game more - yes they want they're team to win but if they lose they will congratulate fans of the other side, chat about the game for a bit and move on as it's not really that important after all - football should be the same but for some reason doesn't seem able - even in places like Gloucester where rugby has the same fervent atmosphere as any football ground - this holds true.

Conversely the euthoria of a good result can leave supporters equally on a high for decent periods as with football.

[RoyalBlue]

I don't think class has anything to do with behaviour. There are plenty of appallingly behaved upper class yobs out there - some even go to watch rugger matches!!

It doesn't make bad behaviour acceptable but is there really any other sport that raises quite the same level of passion as football? (Shankly really wasn't that far off the mark for quite a few people). How many other sports are there where the result of the team being followed literally influences someone's attitude towards life for the day, weekend, or even week?

A rugby team loses and their supporters appear to have forgotten all about the result in a very short space of time and get on with enjoying life. A football team loses and many of its supporters are left on a downer for quite considerable periods of time. Likewise, a good win can leave the supporters on a high for quite a few days!!

You know a lot of rugby supporters then?

A reasonable number, yes. It would appear Stranded (who also follows rugby) concurs.

[rabidbee]

Rugby fans have grown up?