back from the game - Wigan

[Royal Ginger]

Feds - 6.5
Gunter - 4
Morrison - 7
Gorkss - 4.5
Shorey - 7
Leigertwood - 5
Tabb - 6
Robson-Kanu 7
McAnuff - 6
Le Fondre - 6
Roberts - 7

McCleary - 5
Pogrebnyak - Not on long enough to tell

Gunter worst player on the pitch. HRK did alot of good but was constantly fouled by McCarthy. LeFondre was lively but wasteful. Feds did what he could with what he was given. Made an awesome save early 2nd.

[themadstad]

Of the 12 games we have played I would consider, Stoke, West Brom, Swansea, Fulham, QPR, Norwich and Wigan to be in our mini league. The mini league that so many talk of. From these seven games we have collected 5 points. Scoring 8 and conceding 10 goals.

On a positive we have come from 1-0 down to earn a point in two games, 2 points ganied. Though we have failed to win a single game from a leading position in three of the games, 7 points dropped.

[Royal Ginger]

Of the 12 games we have played I would consider, Stoke, West Brom, Swansea, Fulham, QPR, Norwich and Wigan to be in our mini league. The mini league that so many talk of. From these seven games we have collected 5 points. Scoring 8 and conceding 10 goals.

On a positive we have come from 1-0 down to earn a point in two games, 2 points ganied. Though we have failed to win a single game from a leading position in three of the games, 7 points dropped.

What exactly are you getting at?

[themadstad]

What exactly is anyone getting at?

That it needs to be better than that, we aren't competing well enough with our mini league teams.

[Pepe the Horseman]

We are definatly in a relegation fight.......

Nonsense

[Royal Ginger]

So you're saying win more games then rivals at the bottom of the table to stay up...well i'm sold.

[themadstad]

So you're saying win more games then rivals at the bottom of the table to stay up...well i'm sold.

The fact you had to ask in the first place and then use sarcasm would say a lot. Sold or not we've performed pretty appallingly within that mini league.

[Arnie_Pie]

The situation with Pearce could well cost us staying up. Now I know we do not see what happens in training, but why the hell Cummings is not playing as well as Pearce is getting worrying. Cummings / Morro / Pearce / Shorey. That is what we need to see and need to see soon. I would rather we saw Mariappa get a run out over Gorkks.

[Royal Ginger]

I thought you had a point to make that i was missing, but you really were just stating the bleeding obvious.

[handbags_harris]

Feds did what he could with what he was given. Made an awesome save early 2nd.

And then followed it up with a silly error that led to their equaliser. This, unfortunately, is Federici all over.

[themadstad]

I thought you had a point to make that i was missing, but you really were just stating the bleeding obvious.

Clearly not, to you, as you wouldn't have asked. Think it was quite clear in that we aren't competing.

[handbags_harris]

I wasn't there, but I don't care. Watched it all online so am more than well placed to comment. Copied and pasted from the match thread:-

Fcuking appalling defensively, we've not been great this season at the back but today, up against an unusual formation, we were ruthlessly exposed. Gunter persistently plays far too narrow which afforded Beausejour the time and space to get cross after cross in - the warning was there after two minutes - and Gorkks gets done by a bit of movement every single time. The amount of free headers we have conceded this season as a result of this, well it tells its own story. Federici can take his own fair share of the blame for their equaliser as he failed to hold onto a shot for the second or third time today, a shot that he should be taking fairly comfortably, and nearly repeated the trick a minute later, but originally it was Morrison who gave the ball away unforgiveably cheaply and then found himself out of position. Wigan should have gone ahead a minute before their second, only a poor offside call prevented them from doing so, Beausejour again the provider but then the criminal second - free cross from deep with Gunter and McAnuff nowhere to be seen (could have been HRK tbf, they did swap at one point), Gorkks done once again by a bit of movement, free header. Then the turd of a third, Beausejour getting in down the left again after we once again gave the ball away cheaply in midfield, they had numbers, and Gomes gets his hat-trick. The pathetic thing with that is that, all in all, Gomes had an awful game

Positives however - the attack once again looked good. We were always going to get a lot of joy up against Wigan's three man back line and the wingers didn't disappoint. ALF maybe should have scored first half, Al-Habsi pulled off a superb save from him at 1-1, and on top of all that we've been done again by poor refereeing decisions at critical times in the game. Two penalties denied, both stonewall in my view, both involving Tabb - first a handball from his volley, the guy's arm outstretched, and then second half Figueroa I think lunged, missed the ball, got Tabb. Roberts was immense all day again, he really has to start every game, Pogrebnyak's contribution in his cameo was to give the ball away twice. Unfortunately all this doesn't disguise the fact that we could have, and probably should have, conceded six.

Still, Wigan 3-2 Reading, Blackpool 2-2 Watford, Ipswich 1-1 Peterborough, Wolves 1-2 Forest, Stevenage 1-1 Tranmere, Bristol Rovers 3-3 Bradford and Oxford 2-1 Northampton in the Goals! Goals! Goals!, my only regret is not shoving my usual £5 on it, budgetary constraints meant a mere £2.50 stake turns into a £66.71 win. FOWLER!!

[RoyalBlue]

Feds did what he could with what he was given. Made an awesome save early 2nd.

Not according to the goalkeeping 'experts' on here he didn't. On the other hand Tabb stressed that when you allow your opponents to have 18 shots, you can only expect a keeper to do so much to keep you in the game.

Feds did what he could with what he was given. Made an awesome save early 2nd.

And then followed it up with a silly error that led to their equaliser. This, unfortunately, is Federici all over.

No mention of the appalling defensive display by those in front of him then? Two of them definitely made far more silly errors than Feds.

As for whether it was an error by Feds, I shall reserve judgement until I can see it on something better than a poor quality stream.

[Royal Ginger]

I was giving you more credit than you deserved. I didn't think anyone needed to say "we're not doing well enough" and thought that you were perhaps saying something more intelligent that i had missed, but nope, i was wrong. Just drivel.

[ManchesterRoyals]

The situation with Pearce could well cost us staying up. Now I know we do not see what happens in training, but why the hell Cummings is not playing as well as Pearce is getting worrying. Cummings / Morro / Pearce / Shorey. That is what we need to see and need to see soon. I would rather we saw Mariappa get a run out over Gorkks.

This

[Ian Royal]

Federici - 6 at fault for the first goal, although far from on his own with that.
Gunter - 5 gave Beausejour acres all game, but did prevent an almost certain goal first half.
Shorey - 7 set up a goal, played well, but a little to blame for one of the goals.
Morrison - 7MOTM (actually I'd go with Di Santo) good goal, played well, but set up their first goal
Gorkss - 3 abysmal, tackled more of our players than theirs.
Tabb - 6 ok, worked hard coulda had a pen
Ledge - 4 terrible, gave it away loads partly at fault for at least one of their goals
McAnuff - 5 poor did little to help Gunter with the maurading Beausejour
HRk - 6 won the freekick we scored from, took the shot we equalised from. But not a lot else.
Roberts - 6 worked hard, poor first touch but once he's got the ball he uses it well
ALF - 6 had chances including one very well saved one.

Pog - 4 all he did was lose it
McCleary - 5 earlyKebesyndrome, nice runs, no product

McDermott - 4 persists in playing a truely awful Gorkss, has no midfield options on the bench and repeatedly allows us to throw away points.

[LoyalRoyalFan]

Feds did what he could with what he was given. Made an awesome save early 2nd.

Not according to the goalkeeping 'experts' on here he didn't. On the other hand Tabb stressed that when you allow your opponents to have 18 shots, you can only expect a keeper to do so much to keep you in the game.

Feds did what he could with what he was given. Made an awesome save early 2nd.

And then followed it up with a silly error that led to their equaliser. This, unfortunately, is Federici all over.

No mention of the appalling defensive display by those in front of him then? Two of them definitely made far more silly errors than Feds.

As for whether it was an error by Feds, I shall reserve judgement until I can see it on something better than a poor quality stream.

Yeah, the defence can do all the work and then watch as Federici makes yet ANOTHER mistake.

[handbags_harris]

Feds did what he could with what he was given. Made an awesome save early 2nd.

Not according to the goalkeeping 'experts' on here he didn't. On the other hand Tabb stressed that when you allow your opponents to have 18 shots, you can only expect a keeper to do so much to keep you in the game.

Feds did what he could with what he was given. Made an awesome save early 2nd.

And then followed it up with a silly error that led to their equaliser. This, unfortunately, is Federici all over.

No mention of the appalling defensive display by those in front of him then? Two of them definitely made far more silly errors than Feds.

As for whether it was an error by Feds, I shall reserve judgement until I can see it on something better than a poor quality stream.

You may want to read my very next post, it may enlighten you a bit as to my thoughts about the back five.

This particular comment was made in direct response to a comment about Federici, and only Federici. So I responded with a like-minded comment about Federici, and only Federici.

[themadstad]

I was giving you more credit than you deserved. I didn't think anyone needed to say "we're not doing well enough" and thought that you were perhaps saying something more intelligent that i had missed, but nope, i was wrong. Just drivel.

Drivel lol, as much as the title of this thread is obvious. Deary me get a grip of yourself.

[Ian Royal]

alright ladies that's enough