A truly heart rending night. I was one of the many crying on the South Bank that night. Regardless of club alliegences, any true fan who was a regular away supporter in the late 80's was effected hugely by Hillsborough. We played at Southend the night before and didn't have a game that Saturday. I'll never forget watching in floods of tears as the tragedy unfolded live on Grandstand.Jerry St Clair wrote:Spacey/TBM, were you at Elm Park for the Wigan game the following week? Possibly one of the most emotional games of football I've ever been too - the minutes silence before the start was extraordinary. I remember a few people crying on the Southbank. I suspect your attitudes would be different had you attended.
You absolute f***ing prick.TBM wrote:LOLStooper wrote:Indeed, a day I hold very dear and personal to me.Deadlock wrote: May 11th
Who can forget the hilarious chanting of Reading fans to Bradford City..."What's it like to burn to death?"
Hey - you posted the joke and even called it "hilarious" - surely that makes you the prick?Stooper wrote:You absolute f***ing prick.
Remind me to laugh when you lose a member of your family
Only if you don't understand irony.TBM wrote: Hey - you posted the joke and even called it "hilarious" - surely that makes you the prick?
Right i think im getting there!Jerry St Clair wrote:Only if you don't understand irony.TBM wrote: Hey - you posted the joke and even called it "hilarious" - surely that makes you the prick?
I take your point. And, as someone who's not averse to repeating sick jokes there's an element of hypocrisy.TBM wrote: So its ok to laugh and make jokes about a celebrity who commits suicide at Paddington train station but do the same to football supporters and you get shot down!?
I think that there is world of humanitarian difference between a 'celebrity' who killed himself and 96 people killed by accidentTBM wrote:So its ok to laugh and make jokes about a celebrity who commits suicide at Paddington train station but do the same to football supporters and you get shot down!?
You're still laughing/making jokes at the dead, no matter how they died - both still have family/friends who would be affected by the death(s)!!?floyd__streete wrote:I think that there is world of humanitarian difference between a 'celebrity' who killed himself and 96 people killed by accidentTBM wrote:So its ok to laugh and make jokes about a celebrity who commits suicide at Paddington train station but do the same to football supporters and you get shot down!?.
the authorities were to blame and there has been no accountability here, if a person isn't willing to stand up and fight for the lives of their brethern then indeed there is nothing worth fighting forDaniella wrote:What I hate about this is just the scousers continuous case to find "justice" and point the finger of blame at anyone they can, its pathetic. Why can't they just accept it was a terrible accident, football has changed and let everyone move on?
Spotter's badgeKes wrote:ANOTHER thread on the Hillsbrough disaster.
the police had been getting away with heavy handed and ineffectual policing at games for years. The clubs had been getting away with poor oganisation and substandard facilities for years. Because something like Hillsborough had not happeneded previously the authorities involved in running football had got dreadfully complacent throughout the late 1980's. To most football fans one of the biggest shocks wasn't that Hillsborough happened but that how a incident like that hadn't happened sooner. It could have happened at Anfield, Old Trafford, Highbury, Stamford Bridge, in fact, any big ground, on any weekend in the preceding 5 years such was the conditions that football fans were subjected to. In fact, Hillborough was regarded as one of the best grounds in the country at the time. It is a damning inditement that it took the death of 96 people for football to put it's house in order and for conditions and organisation to improve. Football has changed because of it.Gus the teenage cow wrote:the authorities were to blame and there has been no accountability here, if a person isn't willing to stand up and fight for the lives of their brethern then indeed there is nothing worth fighting forDaniella wrote:What I hate about this is just the scousers continuous case to find "justice" and point the finger of blame at anyone they can, its pathetic. Why can't they just accept it was a terrible accident, football has changed and let everyone move on?
So why can't liverpool fans just leave it at that? They make everyones life a misery by continually going on about it. Let the poor souls rest in peace. If one individual was personally at fault, he'd probably know this and as a result has that on his conscience, the death of 96 people. That is punishment enough, it was incompetance not murder. I find the manhunt by liverpool fans distasteful and sick to be honest, remember their protest at the sun article last year? Pathetic.From Despair To Where? wrote:the police had been getting away with heavy handed and ineffectual policing at games for years. The clubs had been getting away with poor oganisation and substandard facilities for years. Because something like Hillsborough had not happeneded previously the authorities involved in running football had got dreadfully complacent throughout the late 1980's. To most football fans one of the biggest shocks wasn't that Hillsborough happened but that how a incident like that hadn't happened sooner. It could have happened at Anfield, Old Trafford, Highbury, Stamford Bridge, in fact, any big ground, on any weekend in the preceding 5 years such was the conditions that football fans were subjected to. In fact, Hillborough was regarded as one of the best grounds in the country at the time. It is a damning inditement that it took the death of 96 people for football to put it's house in order and for conditions and organisation to improve. Football has changed because of it.Gus the teenage cow wrote:the authorities were to blame and there has been no accountability here, if a person isn't willing to stand up and fight for the lives of their brethern then indeed there is nothing worth fighting forDaniella wrote:What I hate about this is just the scousers continuous case to find "justice" and point the finger of blame at anyone they can, its pathetic. Why can't they just accept it was a terrible accident, football has changed and let everyone move on?
It wasn't an accident. All evidence points to levels of criminal negligence.Daniella wrote: So why can't liverpool fans just leave it at that? They make everyones life a misery by continually going on about it. Let the poor souls rest in peace. If one individual was personally at fault, he'd probably know this and as a result has that on his conscience, the death of 96 people. That is punishment enough, it was incompetance not murder. I find the manhunt by liverpool fans distasteful and sick to be honest, remember their protest at the sun article last year? Pathetic.
Whats the point in punishing someone? One would argue to make an example and stop others from repeating the incident. How can you punish someone for an accident? Can anyone see where another hillsbrough would happen? No, so therefore punishing anyone is pointless. Let everyone get on with their lives, mourn the dead respectfully and move on. Most of these spoilt scouse kids singing protests,etc weren;t even born ffs, they are simply going on hearsay and probably because its a trend now set in the kop.
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