Wouldn’t you argue Spurs have to be more pragmatic though in order to win trophies given that they won absolutely nothing in 6 years under the “genius” PochettinoSouth Coast Royal wrote:Listening to the commentary yesterday there was only one team playing and the manager was a genius for playing a 8-2 system.
The idea that Spurs are so much better under Mourinho is possibly stretching a point-didn't they reach a European Cup Final and finish second under Poch?
The key of course is that they came 2nd whereas with a winner as a manager they might end up 1st but that defence (the back 4 of that 8-man defence) has quite a few individual weaknesses.
A long way to go this season but I see it as Liverpool and Man City fighting out the top spot again with possibly Chelsea 3rd and Spurs 4th.
A tester coming up shortly when Spurs take on The Champions-that game may tell us whether Spurs are serious contenders.
It will be interesting at the end of the season to see if Mourinho's approach has done any better than Poch's approach.URZZZZ wrote:Wouldn’t you argue Spurs have to be more pragmatic though in order to win trophies given that they won absolutely nothing in 6 years under the “genius” PochettinoSouth Coast Royal wrote:Listening to the commentary yesterday there was only one team playing and the manager was a genius for playing a 8-2 system.
The idea that Spurs are so much better under Mourinho is possibly stretching a point-didn't they reach a European Cup Final and finish second under Poch?
The key of course is that they came 2nd whereas with a winner as a manager they might end up 1st but that defence (the back 4 of that 8-man defence) has quite a few individual weaknesses.
A long way to go this season but I see it as Liverpool and Man City fighting out the top spot again with possibly Chelsea 3rd and Spurs 4th.
A tester coming up shortly when Spurs take on The Champions-that game may tell us whether Spurs are serious contenders.
Especially considering, as you say, their defence is extremely weak containing the likes of Aurier, Dier, Sanchez and Davies
This isn’t aimed at you but I do find the shifting of goalposts from some amusing. “Mourinho is a busted flush, won’t do anything at Spurs” - now changed to “they might be winning but the style of play is awful!”
Well quite. Second top scorers IIRC including scoring at Southampton, 6 at Old Trafford etc etcHendo wrote:I think Jose gets some unneeded stick with regards to his defensive approach. He certainly has had teams like that, but his first 2 years at Chelsea they scored 72 goals in each of those campaigns, which was the second (in 04/05) and joint best (05/06) goals scored record. I think some people forget that sometimes.
he is a winner, cannot fault that, I would love to have him at Reading, he gets results.From Despair To Where? wrote:Couldn't give a shit how Mourinho's teams play, I think he gets quite warranted stick for being an utter pcunt of a human being.
I may have mentioned this before.
If he wins the league this season and it goes to shit the next you really think the Spurs supporters will care? Nope.From Despair To Where? wrote:If he came to Reading, I would not set foot in the ground until he fcuked off. He's an unpleasant, lying, devisive uberpcunt.
He's still following his usual pattern. Whatever happens this season, it will all go to shit next season because it always does for him.
Sorry, may have interpreted it as you thought he was a crap manager.From Despair To Where? wrote:Show me where I've made any judgement of his managerial ability.
Its the man I dislike because he has a long track record of being a dreadful person. The man has been a source of considerable toxicity at every club he's managed.
I have been utterly constant in my opinion of him for a very long time as a quite a few others on here. Try reading and more importantly, understanding what I've actually said before commenting next time.
Fair enough, I think he’s mellowed a bit recently but whether that’s more “mind games” is up to interpretationFrom Despair To Where? wrote:Couldn't give a shit how Mourinho's teams play, I think he gets quite warranted stick for being an utter pcunt of a human being.
I may have mentioned this before.
There's a few on here who have expressed the same as me.Old Man Andrews wrote:Sorry, may have interpreted it as you thought he was a crap manager.From Despair To Where? wrote:Show me where I've made any judgement of his managerial ability.
Its the man I dislike because he has a long track record of being a dreadful person. The man has been a source of considerable toxicity at every club he's managed.
I have been utterly constant in my opinion of him for a very long time as a quite a few others on here. Try reading and more importantly, understanding what I've actually said before commenting next time.
He builds an army that will defend him at all costs and then he turns against them, thats his tactic everywhere he goes and whilst questionable, it normally gets results. I would argue he was successful at United despite not winning the league, the club are a bit of a basketcase and he did well to get that squad to 2nd place in the league.
The guy is probably the most successful manager of the modern era and isn't shy in letting people know that. I get people disliking him but I'm not sure I've seen anyone talk about him with the vitriol you do.
+1.From Despair To Where? wrote:If he came to Reading, I would not set foot in the ground until he fcuked off. He's an unpleasant, lying, devisive uberpcunt.
He's still following his usual pattern. Whatever happens this season, it will all go to shit next season because it always does for him.
I'd love to see Spurs win something, whenn that pcunt is gone and not a second beforeSanguine wrote:I've come to like Mourinho on balance. Must admit that his comment that getting that United team to 2nd place was his biggest achievement, which seemed stupid and arrogant at the time, has been proven pretty much spot on. He's a whinger and a whiner and he can set his sides up to play boring football, but his record speaks for itself.
I'd really like to see Spurs win something - they are a pretty inoffensive club with a history of exciting players in Ardiles, Waddle, Gascoigne, Hoddle, Klinsmann etc. And much like Shearer ultimately banged in a billion goals for one trophy, I'd hate to see Kane end his career with little to show for it.
No shock that Ian hates a winner. Pure jealousy.Snowflake Royal wrote:+1.From Despair To Where? wrote:If he came to Reading, I would not set foot in the ground until he fcuked off. He's an unpleasant, lying, devisive uberpcunt.
He's still following his usual pattern. Whatever happens this season, it will all go to shit next season because it always does for him.
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