Transfer Deadline Day. Real intel only!

[cmonurz]

Our transfer policy is nothing but taking calculated risks

Well it's all relative, isn't it.

We're essentially all arguing different degrees of the same point.

[Royal Rother]

there is no such thing as a 'proven player' when a transfer is concerned

Spot on and, it seems, so easily forgotten.

Junior Hoilett anyone? Bosingwa? Zamora? Andy Johnson? Park Ji-Sung? Bothroyd?

As has already been said, that seems to have manifested itself in our transfer policy as to simply not take risks, ever.

You're wrong (of course) as Zac pointed out, but whatever, our policy seems to be pretty successful wouldn't you say?

[ZacNaloen]

Our risk is that the player doesn't work out, we've not really lost out financially.

QPR's risk is financial and that the player doesn't work out.

Which risk is the better risk?

[melonhead]

slightly false, as you can sometimes reduce that risk by paying more for better players who will be more likely to fit in, and play well.

like we tried to do,

[cmonurz]

You're wrong (of course) as Zac pointed out, but whatever, our policy seems to be pretty successful wouldn't you say?

Successful? Yes, but I think we are a club with a lot of wasted potential.

[cmonurz]

Our risk is that the player doesn't work out, we've not really lost out financially.

QPR's risk is financial and that the player doesn't work out.

Which risk is the better risk?

I don't know, you haven't listed the potential upsides.

[PistolPete]

Fot for purpose?! What was the purpose? Entertain the fans? Put up a good fight? Qualify for Europe? At the moment we are 17th, which we ALL would have taken pre-season. Oh, and for the record, the is no such thing as a 'proven player' when a transfer is concerned. And just for the millionth time, a high transfer deficit does not equal success. Please ask a QPR fan if you need clarification...

oh fcuking yawn.

For what purpose? To give us a better chance of staying up, what else?

The irony of you writing 'oh fcuking yawn' is incredible. The 'Reading don't spend big money' moan is as boring as it is stupid. We're in the premier league; Forrest aren't, Leicester aren't, Birmingham aren't etc etc etc etc ad nauseam. Can't you see that we're doing pretty well?!

[melonhead]

You're wrong (of course) as Zac pointed out, but whatever, our policy seems to be pretty successful wouldn't you say?

Successful? Yes, but I think we are a club with a lot of wasted potential.

?

i think as a club weve done more than most in the last ten years towards realising our potential.
is there more to be exploited? yes

but rome werent built in a day etc

[ZacNaloen]

slightly false, as you can sometimes reduce that risk by paying more for better players who will be more likely to fit in, and play well.

like we tried to do,

The amount you can afford to spend can change depending on the level you are aiming for, and the clubs income.


We definitely tried to up the quality with this window, but nobody wanted to sign up/was available except for Kelly. So we made two cheap punts on players who might do the job. Higher risk in terms of making it, but less of a financial waste if they don't.

[ZacNaloen]

Our risk is that the player doesn't work out, we've not really lost out financially.

QPR's risk is financial and that the player doesn't work out.

Which risk is the better risk?

I don't know, you haven't listed the potential upsides.

The upsides are exactly the same.

[PistolPete]

Fot for purpose?! What was the purpose? Entertain the fans? Put up a good fight? Qualify for Europe? At the moment we are 17th, which we ALL would have taken pre-season. Oh, and for the record, the is no such thing as a 'proven player' when a transfer is concerned. And just for the millionth time, a high transfer deficit does not equal success. Please ask a QPR fan if you need clarification...

oh fcuking yawn.

For what purpose? To give us a better chance of staying up, what else?

Oh, and fyi, 'a better chance of staying up' isn't a purpose. The purpose you meant (I think) was staying up. Which, if the season ended now, we would have done.

[Man Friday]

F*cking bullsh*t Reading, f*cking bullsh*t.

You didn't manage it. You f*cked up. End of.

Although rationally I can't blame Reading as we took a gamble not to buy in the summer and then we probably couldn't attract anyone I can't help but be disappointed and at the end of the day I will vote with my feet.

Bottom line. I'm Not spending my hard earned cash on reading when Anton can't even part with his unearned cash. Some of us might have some pathetically cringeworthy sort of gay rectum love for Madejski, which is understandable given what he did. Anton will not have it so easy though and has to earn his band of rectum friends. So far he's done little and is surviving on the honeymoon period and the Roberts purchase.

Tomorrow I will chill out and defend The club no doubt to keep sane. But right now I'm hacked off and my true feelings slip out.

What a spacker!

[andrew1957]

Sounds like we put in some big offers but player's clubs would not sell.

At least the "will" was there and you cannot blame McD or Hammond for other clubs not wanting to do business. I am sure eveyone agrees that we could have done with an attacking midfield option but there is no point buying players for the sake of it. At least we went for quality targets (Siggy and Ince).

[Royal Rother]

F*cking bullsh*t Reading, f*cking bullsh*t.

You didn't manage it. You f*cked up. End of.

Although rationally I can't blame Reading as we took a gamble not to buy in the summer and then we probably couldn't attract anyone I can't help but be disappointed and at the end of the day I will vote with my feet.

Bottom line. I'm Not spending my hard earned cash on reading when Anton can't even part with his unearned cash. Some of us might have some pathetically cringeworthy sort of gay rectum love for Madejski, which is understandable given what he did. Anton will not have it so easy though and has to earn his band of rectum friends. So far he's done little and is surviving on the honeymoon period and the Roberts purchase.

Tomorrow I will chill out and defend The club no doubt to keep sane. But right now I'm hacked off and my true feelings slip out.

What a spacker!

Yep. The rantings of an unhinged mind. Poor chap.

[Ian Royal]

Posted my full thoughts in a longer post half way through this thread, but if we keep finding things don't 'come to fruition' it stands to reason we need to look at our approach, as well as the market.

You've got that so wrong.

Our approach is right. We land players at value prices, and don't get ripped off. The way the club is / has been run means we don't get desperate and therefore don't get dragged into paying daft prices for players. It is those deals that don't come to fruition. We'll miss out on some good ones, but it's a policy that has stood the club in pretty good stead over the years I'd say.

As opposed to looking at the market - why the hell should we do what every other club does? It is the way this club is run that means we DON'T get desperate and dragged into all this nonsense. Other clubs could learn so much from Reading. That is why we are so often referred to by other clubs, and indeed FANS of other clubs as being a model that others should aspire to.

And yet many of our own fans don't see it.

You couldn't make it up.

No, no I haven't got it wrong. This is like the endless spending debates on the coalition thread. You think we should spend next to nothing, because it's prudent, I think we should spend a little bit more.

I don't agree that it is a good thing that, hypothetically, for the sake of an extra £1m each, we might have secured Zaha, Ince and that African winger we were looking at whose name I can't remember. That wouldn't mean we had been ripped off, it would mean we had adjusted our approach, only slightly, to reflect the market.

It's pretty one-eyed to imply some of our fans are idiots because they support a slightly looser policy on transfers.

You're criticising the approach of a very successful team, without knowing any of the reason's the deals didn't come off and are assuming that it's just because we wouldn't stump up an extra little bit of cash. That's a massive assumption born of ignorance.

[cmonurz]

If we didn't voice opinions without the full facts, this discussion board would cease to exist. No-one knows everything that goes on behind the scenes, so we all form our opinions based on snippets of information we do have. It's not exactly unreasonable to assume that when transfers 'just don't work out', that the fee may be a stumbling block, given our well publicised approach and, relative to everyone else in the division, our low record transfer fee.

And anyway, that accusation from you...? Really?

[Ian Royal]

If we didn't voice opinions without the full facts, this discussion board would cease to exist. No-one knows everything that goes on behind the scenes, so we all form our opinions based on snippets of information we do have. It's not exactly unreasonable to assume that when transfers 'just don't work out', that the fee may be a stumbling block, given our well publicised approach and, relative to everyone else in the division, our low record transfer fee.

And anyway, that accusation from you...? Really?

You're making assumptions based on prejudice and no information. It's like trying to explain why we've lost a game when the only thing you know is the final score. Not the order of the goals. Not the timing of the goals. Not the teams. Not the formation. Not any of the major incidents.

[cmonurz]

No I'm not, Ian. Kindly don't ruin a good football day by telling me where I get my opinions from. Ta.

[Ian Royal]

No I'm not, Ian. Kindly don't ruin a good football day by telling me where I get my opinions from. Ta.

Can't have been a very good day if a bit of criticism ruins it. You should man up a bit, especially when it's criticisim about being critical - dishing it out at the club, but don't like it back?

[cmonurz]

No I'm not, Ian. Kindly don't ruin a good football day by telling me where I get my opinions from. Ta.

Can't have been a very good day if a bit of criticism ruins it. You should man up a bit, especially when it's criticisim about being critical - dishing it out at the club, but don't like it back?

Calling someone ignorant isn't an argument Ian, it's just telling me I'm not allowed an opinion because you don't think I should have one. Neither of us know the full picture.