Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

[Uke]

Here's an anti semantic octopus



https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005270568885.html

[Brogue]

I obviously don't know for sure as I have no inside knowledge, but isn't the difference that Everton accepted that they'd racked up the debt whereas City have been treating some/all funds from the Saudis as sponsorship income, therefore NOT racking up the debt.

It might be viewed as semantics but could be why there's a difference in the PL approach

I'm anti-semantic when it comes to football finances

As long as everyone pays what is Jew

[Sutekh]

I'm anti-semantic when it comes to football finances

As long as everyone pays what is Jew

This Israelly starting to push the boundary

[WestYorksRoyal]

Looks like WBA are going all in on promotion this season. Increased their loan, presumably to keep their squad together and possibly strengthen in January. Takeover rumours that could rescue them too, but definitely lots of risk being taken.

[Sutekh]

Looks like WBA are going all in on promotion this season. Increased their loan, presumably to keep their squad together and possibly strengthen in January. Takeover rumours that could rescue them too, but definitely lots of risk being taken.

Thinking this is where the FL should be able to start taking an interest. Before things come crashing down rather than after the event and making it worse for clubs.

[Stranded]

Looks like WBA are going all in on promotion this season. Increased their loan, presumably to keep their squad together and possibly strengthen in January. Takeover rumours that could rescue them too, but definitely lots of risk being taken.

Definitely feels like a shit or bust season for them, big win over Ipswich but 10 points is a big gap to pull back over an in form team - not sure what their play-off record is like.

[Winston Biscuit]

Looks like WBA are going all in on promotion this season. Increased their loan, presumably to keep their squad together and possibly strengthen in January. Takeover rumours that could rescue them too, but definitely lots of risk being taken.

they are primed to be Gourlay'd in a year or so when they are still in the Champ

[From Despair To Where?]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67509606

Article on the financial meltdown in Chinese football.

[Brum Royal]

I wonder how Joao is getting on out there?

[Stranded]

Being widely reported that when Everton submit accounts next month, it will show they have breached P&S rules again and under new rules, if charged, will have their penalty decided and handed out before the end of the season. Could see a similar punishment.

I can only assume, that unlike us, previous losses are not then averaged out once a breach has occured or if they are, even with the evening out they will still breach.

Mail reporting that the "trial" for Man City, will begin in Autumn 2024 with a decision expected by summer '25.

[Sanguine]

Being widely reported that when Everton submit accounts next month, it will show they have breached P&S rules again and under new rules, if charged, will have their penalty decided and handed out before the end of the season. Could see a similar punishment.

I can only assume, that unlike us, previous losses are not then averaged out once a breach has occured or if they are, even with the evening out they will still breach.

Mail reporting that the "trial" for Man City, will begin in Autumn 2024 with a decision expected by summer '25.

If the Everton thing is true, and in effect two charges equals 20+ points deducted - then by extension it is difficult to see City avoiding relegation if any of their more substantial charges are proven.

Can't help but feel though that City are being allowed to get things in order, certainly moreso than Everton are.

Hypothetical-squared question - but let's go two years into the future in the world where City have been shown to have financially 'doped' for years. How do you feel as a Liverpool fan having just one PL to show for arguably your best team ever?

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Being widely reported that when Everton submit accounts next month, it will show they have breached P&S rules again and under new rules, if charged, will have their penalty decided and handed out before the end of the season. Could see a similar punishment.

I can only assume, that unlike us, previous losses are not then averaged out once a breach has occured or if they are, even with the evening out they will still breach.

Mail reporting that the "trial" for Man City, will begin in Autumn 2024 with a decision expected by summer '25.

If the Everton thing is true, and in effect two charges equals 20+ points deducted - then by extension it is difficult to see City avoiding relegation if any of their more substantial charges are proven.

Can't help but feel though that City are being allowed to get things in order, certainly moreso than Everton are.

Hypothetical-squared question - but let's go two years into the future in the world where City have been shown to have financially 'doped' for years. How do you feel as a Liverpool fan having just one PL to show for arguably your best team ever?

Probably a bit aggrieved, but I'd be saying just be better. Spending and breaking the rules doesn't always make you a good side (like we need telling), City have still had to manage it well to be successful.

It's not right by any means and I'm sure their punishment, should they receive one, will justify the severity of the cases.

[Sutekh]

Being widely reported that when Everton submit accounts next month, it will show they have breached P&S rules again and under new rules, if charged, will have their penalty decided and handed out before the end of the season. Could see a similar punishment.

I can only assume, that unlike us, previous losses are not then averaged out once a breach has occured or if they are, even with the evening out they will still breach.

Mail reporting that the "trial" for Man City, will begin in Autumn 2024 with a decision expected by summer '25.

If the Everton thing is true, and in effect two charges equals 20+ points deducted - then by extension it is difficult to see City avoiding relegation if any of their more substantial charges are proven.

Can't help but feel though that City are being allowed to get things in order, certainly moreso than Everton are.

Hypothetical-squared question - but let's go two years into the future in the world where City have been shown to have financially 'doped' for years. How do you feel as a Liverpool fan having just one PL to show for arguably your best team ever?

Probably a bit aggrieved, but I'd be saying just be better. Spending and breaking the rules doesn't always make you a good side (like we need telling), City have still had to manage it well to be successful.

It's not right by any means and I'm sure their punishment, should they receive one, will justify the severity of the cases.

Thinking that if City are stripped of any domestic trophies, that those trophy honours should then be awarded to the various runners up.

[Sanguine]

If the Everton thing is true, and in effect two charges equals 20+ points deducted - then by extension it is difficult to see City avoiding relegation if any of their more substantial charges are proven.

Can't help but feel though that City are being allowed to get things in order, certainly moreso than Everton are.

Hypothetical-squared question - but let's go two years into the future in the world where City have been shown to have financially 'doped' for years. How do you feel as a Liverpool fan having just one PL to show for arguably your best team ever?

Probably a bit aggrieved, but I'd be saying just be better. Spending and breaking the rules doesn't always make you a good side (like we need telling), City have still had to manage it well to be successful.

It's not right by any means and I'm sure their punishment, should they receive one, will justify the severity of the cases.

Thinking that if City are stripped of any domestic trophies, that those trophy honours should then be awarded to the various runners up.

Not a lot of precedent, but when Juventus were stripped of their Serie A title for 2004-05, no further title was awarded. Officially 'no winner' of Serie A for that season.

[Winston Biscuit]

Probably a bit aggrieved, but I'd be saying just be better. Spending and breaking the rules doesn't always make you a good side (like we need telling), City have still had to manage it well to be successful.

It's not right by any means and I'm sure their punishment, should they receive one, will justify the severity of the cases.

Thinking that if City are stripped of any domestic trophies, that those trophy honours should then be awarded to the various runners up.

Not a lot of precedent, but when Juventus were stripped of their Serie A title for 2004-05, no further title was awarded. Officially 'no winner' of Serie A for that season.

I think no one getting the 04-05 Serie A title was mainly down to how many clubs were caught up in 'Calciopoli' and how many others were suspected of wrongdoing without there being proof to punish them. Runners up were AC MIlan and they were also found guilty.

Legal action was still going on until a year or 2 ago as Inter Milan were awarded the 05-06 title, but were suspected by other clubs of doing just the same thing that they had been punished for

[Uke]

Forest Green Rovers are aware of an FA investigation, meaning their FA Cup tie against Blackpool is postponed…

Possibly a loan player not being eligible?

[Clyde1998]

Not gone well for Pontypridd United in the Welsh Premier: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67687142

They've been deducted six points and been given a suspended 135 point deduction.

The offences included non-payment of monies owed to players and failure to comply with contractual player obligations.

Further charges included a failure to register players correctly and the playing of ineligible players.

[From Despair To Where?]

Probably a blessing in disguise that they've been given a 2 window transfer embargo if they're incapable of registering players properly and have a 135pt suspended penalty triggered for any repeat offence.

[Sutekh]

Bet Man City are glad they're not Welsh.

[Franchise FC]

Bet Man City are glad they're not Welsh.

Have City been playing unregistered players ?