Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

[Sutekh]

Supporter protests starting to break out at Swindon over their owner (Clem Morfumi), say he’s been driving the club into the ground over his 3 years at the helm. Club is has been sinking over the last few years and is now desperately looking over its shoulder at a real prospect of the non league next season. Fans want him gone asap.

[Orion1871]

Dani Olmo and Pau Víctor will not be able to be registered with Barça from January 1st and both will be free agents.

[Winston Biscuit]

Dani Olmo and Pau Víctor will not be able to be registered with Barça from January 1st and both will be free agents.

Sounds like La Liga have offered Barcelona a 72 hour extension to try and get the registrations sorted

[Clyde1998]

Dani Olmo and Pau Víctor will not be able to be registered with Barça from January 1st and both will be free agents.

Sounds like La Liga have offered Barcelona a 72 hour extension to try and get the registrations sorted

Hope they fail. Good to see La Liga actually enforce their rules and we need something similar here.

[Winston Biscuit]

Sounds like La Liga have offered Barcelona a 72 hour extension to try and get the registrations sorted

Hope they fail. Good to see La Liga actually enforce their rules and we need something similar here.

I suspect the extra 3 days is because they know a fudge is there to be done

[Sutekh]

In some ways things there seem to be as dodgy as the French League, which appears to have largely been sold to Qatar while everyone who isn’t PSG quietly falls apart

[Winston Biscuit]

In some ways things there seem to be as dodgy as the French League, which appears to have largely been sold to Qatar while everyone who isn’t PSG quietly falls apart

My favourite bit of shambolic French football was when the league gave the TV rights to the same person that owns PSG, and he then refused to pay out on the deal to clubs during the summer, meaning all PSG's rivals were short during the transfer window, then he made a payment after the window closed but paid less than was due, saying he could no longer afford it

[Stranded]

Sounds like La Liga have offered Barcelona a 72 hour extension to try and get the registrations sorted

Hope they fail. Good to see La Liga actually enforce their rules and we need something similar here.

Are they though? How many other clubs have ever been given or would be given an extension?

The only league that ever seems to have followed through with the correct punishment for a big club was Serie A when it relegated Juve.

[Snowflake Royal]

Sounds like La Liga have offered Barcelona a 72 hour extension to try and get the registrations sorted

Hope they fail. Good to see La Liga actually enforce their rules and we need something similar here.

Are they though? How many other clubs have ever been given or would be given an extension?

The only league that ever seems to have followed through with the correct punishment for a big club was Serie A when it relegated Juve.

SPL and Rangers? Though hardly a big league admittedly... but a big club (for the SPL)

[Stranded]

Hope they fail. Good to see La Liga actually enforce their rules and we need something similar here.

Are they though? How many other clubs have ever been given or would be given an extension?

The only league that ever seems to have followed through with the correct punishment for a big club was Serie A when it relegated Juve.

SPL and Rangers? Though hardly a big league admittedly... but a big club (for the SPL)

Possibly fair but I think the rules at the time should have seen Rangers expelled from the Scottish League entirely i.e into the Highland League for example - because they went bankrupt - the Rangers that play now are technically a different club.

It would be hard to make a cogent argument about them starting any lower than they did though.

[Winston Biscuit]

Apparently Olmo's contract has a clause which says if they can't register him to play then he is free to terminate his contract, and he gets paid up the full wages of the remaining 5 1/2 years. And Leipzig were so concerned they may not get the add ons from their sale that they also added a clause to their deal which said if his contract gets terminated then they receive the full payment of €62m.

[From Despair To Where?]

Sounds like La Liga have offered Barcelona a 72 hour extension to try and get the registrations sorted

Hope they fail. Good to see La Liga actually enforce their rules and we need something similar here.

Are they though? How many other clubs have ever been given or would be given an extension?

The only league that ever seems to have followed through with the correct punishment for a big club was Serie A when it relegated Juve.

I think the Bundesliga historically have also been pretty ruthless in their handling of financial mismanagement.

[Winston Biscuit]

31st Dec was the deadline for all PL clubs to file their PSR paperwork for 23/24 season

The Premier league have 14 days after that to charge any club with a 'simple breach'. If any club falls into what they class as a 'complex breach' then they have longer.

Your man on the radio said no matter which breach it is, we are likely to know by the middle of next week any club that has fallen foul of this ruling, and said the clubs to be on the lookout for are Leicester & Chelsea, but said Chelsea's would be all about how much accounting trickery they had done (selling things to themselves etc) to make up their massive losses

[Sutekh]

31st Dec was the deadline for all PL clubs to file their PSR paperwork for 23/24 season

The Premier league have 14 days after that to charge any club with a 'simple breach'. If any club falls into what they class as a 'complex breach' then they have longer.

Your man on the radio said no matter which breach it is, we are likely to know by the middle of next week any club that has fallen foul of this ruling, and said the clubs to be on the lookout for are Leicester & Chelsea, but said Chelsea's would be all about how much accounting trickery they had done (selling things to themselves etc) to make up their massive losses

Obvious the “selling stuff to ‘yourself’” loophole would be abused by the less than scrupulous, should have been slammed shut at the start.

[Winston Biscuit]

31st Dec was the deadline for all PL clubs to file their PSR paperwork for 23/24 season

The Premier league have 14 days after that to charge any club with a 'simple breach'. If any club falls into what they class as a 'complex breach' then they have longer.

Your man on the radio said no matter which breach it is, we are likely to know by the middle of next week any club that has fallen foul of this ruling, and said the clubs to be on the lookout for are Leicester & Chelsea, but said Chelsea's would be all about how much accounting trickery they had done (selling things to themselves etc) to make up their massive losses

Obvious the “selling stuff to ‘yourself’” loophole would be abused by the less than scrupulous, should have been slammed shut at the start.

I only learned yesterday that last summer they sold their own women's team to themselves

[Winston Biscuit]

Sounds like Barcelona may well now be able to register Olmo & Victor.

After being clearly told no by La Liga & RFEF (the Spanish FA), they filed an appeal with the government and the CSD (Spanish Administrative Sports Court) appears to have overruled those that run Spanish football and said the pair can be registered

If this is confirmed, then where does it leave the authority of those that run football in Spain? Barcelona will be operating outside of the salary cap rule that everyone else is having to work to.

[Sutekh]

31st Dec was the deadline for all PL clubs to file their PSR paperwork for 23/24 season

The Premier league have 14 days after that to charge any club with a 'simple breach'. If any club falls into what they class as a 'complex breach' then they have longer.

Your man on the radio said no matter which breach it is, we are likely to know by the middle of next week any club that has fallen foul of this ruling, and said the clubs to be on the lookout for are Leicester & Chelsea, but said Chelsea's would be all about how much accounting trickery they had done (selling things to themselves etc) to make up their massive losses

Obvious the “selling stuff to ‘yourself’” loophole would be abused by the less than scrupulous, should have been slammed shut at the start.

I only learned yesterday that last summer they sold their own women's team to themselves

[Silver Fox]

[Stranded]

Sounds like Barcelona may well now be able to register Olmo & Victor.

After being clearly told no by La Liga & RFEF (the Spanish FA), they filed an appeal with the government and the CSD (Spanish Administrative Sports Court) appears to have overruled those that run Spanish football and said the pair can be registered

If this is confirmed, then where does it leave the authority of those that run football in Spain? Barcelona will be operating outside of the salary cap rule that everyone else is having to work to.

Well it just opens the door for anyone to do what the hell they like now, if a court has thrown out the rule then no-one need stick to it.

Of course, the fact that it is Barca breaking the rules is the reason they may get away with it - if this had been say Espanyol, it would be a different story.

[Winston Biscuit]

Sounds like Barcelona may well now be able to register Olmo & Victor.

After being clearly told no by La Liga & RFEF (the Spanish FA), they filed an appeal with the government and the CSD (Spanish Administrative Sports Court) appears to have overruled those that run Spanish football and said the pair can be registered

If this is confirmed, then where does it leave the authority of those that run football in Spain? Barcelona will be operating outside of the salary cap rule that everyone else is having to work to.

Well it just opens the door for anyone to do what the hell they like now, if a court has thrown out the rule then no-one need stick to it.

Of course, the fact that it is Barca breaking the rules is the reason they may get away with it - if this had been say Espanyol, it would be a different story.

same old Barca, allowed to do what they want basically.

I don't think anything has been confirmed by the CSD yet, its just journalists all saying they have been unofficially told it will get approved by them today. Will be interesting to see why its happened though. There is always a chance the salary cap/registration ule was written badly and this overruling happens due to some kind of employment law or summat. If thats the case then its understandable, but if its just a case of wanting Barcelona to be able to have them play, then f*ck it, anyone can do anything now as the rulemakers are no longer in charge