Ian Harte

[windermere_royal]

Yet another goal from a Harte set piece. Kind of getting a bit redicluous how many goals weve scored from them in the last 3 seasons. His abscence from the team almost always coincides with a poorer run of results, set pieces are that important.

You can fairly criticise other aspects of his game at this stage of his career, but we have never had another player close to his ability from set pieces. To come out with comments like " no excuse for not clearing the first man" is just silly. This isnt Sunday League football. Just sticking in the mixer and hoping will achieve nothing almost all of the time. Its how many goals his set pieces yield, not how many come to nothing. The best corners are the ones that just clear the 1st man (like yesterday) and it goes without saying that a lot will fail to do so, otherwise you are giving yourself no chance. We score a huge amount of goals from his corners and free kicks and thats why he plays. End of. Without him we would have less points this season and wouldnt even be in this league to start with.

Shorey`s delivery is every bit as good as Harte`s, ask Man utd

[CayeneMatt]

Could be time for Shorey to come back in now he's fit. He's been better all season when available and I've always thought that 1 bad result will act as the perfect excuse to put him back in.

What was Harte doing with that late free kick?

So you didn't see Shorey's form in the 3 or 4 matches before he was dropped? He was terrible. He came back on for 5 minutes against Man City when Harte got hurt and gifted Barry a goal.

Harte had no right to the shirt after his crap start to the season, but for whatever reason, Shorey blew his chance whether it was illness or a fondness for a pint. Those ITK think it the latter.

So you could argue that Shorey's treated us like a bunch of pcunts for the 2nd time in his career.

[Norfolk Royal]

Yet another goal from a Harte set piece. Kind of getting a bit redicluous how many goals weve scored from them in the last 3 seasons. His abscence from the team almost always coincides with a poorer run of results, set pieces are that important.

You can fairly criticise other aspects of his game at this stage of his career, but we have never had another player close to his ability from set pieces. To come out with comments like " no excuse for not clearing the first man" is just silly. This isnt Sunday League football. Just sticking in the mixer and hoping will achieve nothing almost all of the time. Its how many goals his set pieces yield, not how many come to nothing. The best corners are the ones that just clear the 1st man (like yesterday) and it goes without saying that a lot will fail to do so, otherwise you are giving yourself no chance. We score a huge amount of goals from his corners and free kicks and thats why he plays. End of. Without him we would have less points this season and wouldnt even be in this league to start with.

Shorey`s delivery is every bit as good as Harte`s, ask Man utd

I doubt they've even heard of him, let alone living in fear of his free kick delivery.

[SCIAG]

Could be time for Shorey to come back in now he's fit. He's been better all season when available and I've always thought that 1 bad result will act as the perfect excuse to put him back in.

What was Harte doing with that late free kick?

So you didn't see Shorey's form in the 3 or 4 matches before he was dropped? He was terrible. He came back on for 5 minutes against Man City when Harte got hurt and gifted Barry a goal.

I don't think he was terrible at all, the right backs were much worse. And the Barry goal was a foul.

[72 bus]

Could be time for Shorey to come back in now he's fit. He's been better all season when available and I've always thought that 1 bad result will act as the perfect excuse to put him back in.

What was Harte doing with that late free kick?

So you didn't see Shorey's form in the 3 or 4 matches before he was dropped? He was terrible. He came back on for 5 minutes against Man City when Harte got hurt and gifted Barry a goal.

I don't think he was terrible at all, the right backs were much worse. And the Barry goal was a foul.

Shorey is finished at Reading

[Extended-Phenotype]

Some duff deliveries on Sat, but a couple of corking corners we should have netted and one great one for the goal.

Those who aren't fans will have some ammunition I guess, but I don't think it's particularly rational.

[BR2]

Surely if you take nearly all the corners and nearly all the free-kicks in the opposition half there are bound to be a number of assists.
As an earlier poster said,Shorey is as good as,if not better.

[juanpablo]

Surely if you take nearly all the corners and nearly all the free-kicks in the opposition half there are bound to be a number of assists.
As an earlier poster said,Shorey is as good as,if not better.

Shoreys not as good imo , a long way off it

[Ouroboros]

Some duff deliveries on Sat, but a couple of corking corners we should have netted and one great one for the goal.

Those who aren't fans will have some ammunition I guess, but I don't think it's particularly rational.

To some extent he's probably a bit of a victim of his own success. We'd be less exasperated by his poorer deliveries if we weren't always expecting the kind he produced for the goal.

He does seem to produce a hell of a range from the pathetic to the perfect, and can go full games with mostly the former, but there's no question to me that on aggregate he's one of the best set-piece takers in the division.

I suppose part of it is down to a low-percentage style. It's easy to float crosses on to the penalty spot but essentially it's ineffective. If you try to whip them in with pace and dip it can look awful when you're slightly off, but is extremely hard to defend when you get it right.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Some duff deliveries on Sat, but a couple of corking corners we should have netted and one great one for the goal.

Those who aren't fans will have some ammunition I guess, but I don't think it's particularly rational.

To some extent he's probably a bit of a victim of his own success. We'd be less exasperated by his poorer deliveries if we weren't always expecting the kind he produced for the goal.

He does seem to produce a hell of a range from the pathetic to the perfect, and can go full games with mostly the former, but there's no question to me that on aggregate he's one of the best set-piece takers in the division.

I suppose part of it is down to a low-percentage style. It's easy to float crosses on to the penalty spot but essentially it's ineffective. If you try to whip them in with pace and dip it can look awful when you're slightly off, but is extremely hard to defend when you get it right.

Probably wouldn't have split so many buttcheeks if he hadn't delivered three naff set pieces in a row when we needed him most, but there were enough arse-ups on Sat to keep him company. Kebe's woeful ball to Pog when three on two would get my raspberry award.

[Ian Royal]

Harte's freekicks have been pretty terrible for most of the season. His corners vary between a bit poor and brilliant, so there's not much problem there, much the same as I think anyone else could deliver. It's just mainly those direct freekicks. It's pretty poor to repeatedly hit the wall, and at about chest height as well. If it goes high fair enough, but get it over the wall.

He's been ok defensively.

[ZacNaloen]

http://sportsnewsireland.com/soccer/soc ... 013-02-18/?



Maybe Trappatoni doesn't like Reading very much or something

[akranes]

http://sportsnewsireland.com/soccer/soccer_irish/ian-harte-thinks-giovanni-trapattoni-is-killing-irish-football-2013-02-18/?



Maybe Trappatoni doesn't like Reading very much or something

He's also the fool that refused to play Long ahead of anyone else. Bastard.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Harte's freekicks have been pretty terrible for most of the season.

Can't Check, Won't Check, but haven't a large number of our goals come from Ian Harte this season?

[Royal Ginger]

Kebe's woeful ball to Pog when three on two would get my raspberry award.

This^

[i_kingsley]

What's the question?

42

42 was not the question it was the answer to the ultimate question of life the universe and everything

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Harte's freekicks have been pretty terrible for most of the season.

Can't Check, Won't Check, but haven't a large number of our goals come from Ian Harte this season?

Yes. And last season. And the season before that.

[Z175]

Yet another goal from a Harte set piece. Kind of getting a bit redicluous how many goals weve scored from them in the last 3 seasons. His abscence from the team almost always coincides with a poorer run of results, set pieces are that important.

You can fairly criticise other aspects of his game at this stage of his career, but we have never had another player close to his ability from set pieces. To come out with comments like " no excuse for not clearing the first man" is just silly. This isnt Sunday League football. Just sticking in the mixer and hoping will achieve nothing almost all of the time. Its how many goals his set pieces yield, not how many come to nothing. The best corners are the ones that just clear the 1st man (like yesterday) and it goes without saying that a lot will fail to do so, otherwise you are giving yourself no chance. We score a huge amount of goals from his corners and free kicks and thats why he plays. End of. Without him we would have less points this season and wouldnt even be in this league to start with.

Shorey`s delivery is every bit as good as Harte`s, ask Man utd

I doubt they've even heard of him, let alone living in fear of his free kick delivery.

Google this "Reading have a great delivery of the ball - the boy Shorey whips them in, fantastic crosses" and you'll see why Smalling, Vidic and Jones all started last night. They live in fear of Nicky!

[melonhead]

shoreys delivery last night was miles better than hartes has been for weeks imo

[ZacNaloen]

Just a shame about his defending really.

Back off back off back off... Oh he squared it