FIFA

[Brosef Stalin]

What sort of legal body is FIFA? What laws are they actually breaking? Just about to have a read up on it

[Ian Royal]

What sort of legal body is FIFA? What laws are they actually breaking? Just about to have a read up on it

I'm pretty sure fraud and bribery are illegal regardless of what sort of entity you are in most places they operate, so I'm not sure it matters.

[Victor Meldrew]

RR,
You must be getting senile.
I said nothing about Blatter not being corrupt-I was following Zammo's point that this man (mainly because we have failed to get any more World Cups) is seen here as the devil incarnate which is regrettably a typically British trait, i.e. any German or Frenchman is untrustworthy and hates the English.
This is part of a much wider issue of where we stand in the world-foreigners are not always wrong about everything and Brits always right.

If you were to be wider read I would ask you what all the other countries feel about FIFA and about Blatter in particular but as you are not so widely read I'll refrain and wait to see if these people are found to be corrupt (people on here want to hang them already with a lynch mob mentality).
Incidentally those that criticise FIFA and suggest that we break away (which was mooted after the failure to get the world cup for 2018 and 2022) can't really believe that our own FA is any better?

Governing bodies and governments around the world all have elements of corruption-I'm just not certain that FIFA is any worse than the rest.

Christ - give me that minute back please.

I don't think Christ will give you that minute back but is that profanity the best you can come up with?

[Ian Royal]

I think more likely the most you qualify for.

[Victor Meldrew]

RR,
You must be getting senile.
I said nothing about Blatter not being corrupt-I was following Zammo's point that this man (mainly because we have failed to get any more World Cups) is seen here as the devil incarnate which is regrettably a typically British trait, i.e. any German or Frenchman is untrustworthy and hates the English.
This is part of a much wider issue of where we stand in the world-foreigners are not always wrong about everything and Brits always right.

If you were to be wider read I would ask you what all the other countries feel about FIFA and about Blatter in particular but as you are not so widely read I'll refrain and wait to see if these people are found to be corrupt (people on here want to hang them already with a lynch mob mentality).
Incidentally those that criticise FIFA and suggest that we break away (which was mooted after the failure to get the world cup for 2018 and 2022) can't really believe that our own FA is any better?

Governing bodies and governments around the world all have elements of corruption-I'm just not certain that FIFA is any worse than the rest.

Is your contention regarding where we stand with 'world-foreigners' associated just with football?

No, as you have seen (and people like RR are too blinkered to read or see) is that mine were much wider points:-
(a)That so many countries have corrupt governments
(b)So many bodies have corrupt employees (Barclays, Libor fixing etc.)
(c) British people always feel that they know best and have this island mentality that foreigners are not to be trusted.
Ergo Blatter is a baddy , can never do anything right and all his cohorts must be corrupt.

My point about the FA (Kitsondinho) is that it is not a good example of how to run a football association and it also has it's share of freeloaders.

[Victor Meldrew]

I think more likely the most you qualify for.

Nothing to do with you Ian, get back to what you normally use your right hand for and let the grown-ups get on with talking.

[Kitsondinho]

RR,
You must be getting senile.
I said nothing about Blatter not being corrupt-I was following Zammo's point that this man (mainly because we have failed to get any more World Cups) is seen here as the devil incarnate which is regrettably a typically British trait, i.e. any German or Frenchman is untrustworthy and hates the English.
This is part of a much wider issue of where we stand in the world-foreigners are not always wrong about everything and Brits always right.

If you were to be wider read I would ask you what all the other countries feel about FIFA and about Blatter in particular but as you are not so widely read I'll refrain and wait to see if these people are found to be corrupt (people on here want to hang them already with a lynch mob mentality).
Incidentally those that criticise FIFA and suggest that we break away (which was mooted after the failure to get the world cup for 2018 and 2022) can't really believe that our own FA is any better?

Governing bodies and governments around the world all have elements of corruption-I'm just not certain that FIFA is any worse than the rest.

Is your contention regarding where we stand with 'world-foreigners' associated just with football?

No, as you have seen (and people like RR are too blinkered to read or see) is that mine were much wider points:-
(a)That so many countries have corrupt governments
(b)So many bodies have corrupt employees (Barclays, Libor fixing etc.)
(c) British people always feel that they know best and have this island mentality that foreigners are not to be trusted.
Ergo Blatter is a baddy , can never do anything right and all his cohorts must be corrupt.

My point about the FA (Kitsondinho) is that it is not a good example of how to run a football association and it also has it's share of freeloaders.

And my point remains, are you saying the FA is as bad as FIFA? If not, what has how the FA is run got to do with anything? We are talking about FIFA being corrupt. The particular nationality of those at the top of FIFA is irrelevant. This has nothing to do with a little England witch hunt. Blatter is hated by many fans around the world. He is not so hated by officials around the world....but I can't think why.....

[Uke]

Or Jack Warner, ex Vice President of FIFA?

Who'd have thought a copper would ever take bribes?

[Royal Rother]

I think more likely the most you qualify for.

Nothing to do with you Ian, get back to what you normally use your right hand for and let the grown-ups get on with talking.

There's only one person being the w4nker on here tonight and let me tell you, it ain't Ian.

[Ian Royal]

It's just a little bit senile to start making an argument about 'Little Englander' prejudice against foreigners, on the subject of a spectacularly corrupt man who happens to be foreign.

There's potentially a valid point to be made there (not that I think you could describe me, RR, or - I think - Kitsondinho as 'Little Englanders'), but it's to be made when a person is being vilified as corrupt, with very little firm grounds, based on little more than foreignness. Not to be waved around condescendingly when the subject of the ire is fishier than a shoal of mackerel.

[Kitsondinho]

As an EU loving, 2 language speaking (besides our own) lefty, (and I spent last week trying to convince a visiting German friend that test cricket really is amazing) I do find the suggestion I only dislike Blatter because he is foreign amusing. Anyway back to the actual matter in hand......Coca-Cola, Visa and Addidas have all put out strongly worded statements that things need to change at FIFA. Interestingly though, they haven't gone as far as threatening to pull out or suggested what exactly needs to change. I suspect they are hedging their bets for now. Addidas especially is pretty tied to FIFA and may just be sweating a little.

[Dai Brainbocs]

[Keegan mode on] I would just love it if there was some way of forcing them to play the tournament in Qatar on the original schedule, with the major clubs refusing to let their big stars take part because of the health risks and sponsors pulling out. It's a shame it's not Qatar next time and Russia the one after that.

[Uke]

Hopefully not Russia next time too!

We'll probably be boycotting it anyway, if the Queen's speech is anything to go by

[Sutekh]

Presumably the Ukraine certainly will.....

[Ouroboros]

Governing bodies and governments around the world all have elements of corruption-I'm just not certain that FIFA is any worse than the rest.

I guess it's your word against that of the IRS then.

[ZacNaloen]

Hopefully not Russia next time too!

We'll probably be boycotting it anyway, if the Queen's speech is anything to go by

With the way things are progressing we'll be at war with them by then anyway.

[Sanguine]

Guardian says Nike cited in the indictment as an 'unnamed global sports brand sponsoring the Brazil national football team', accused of paying $40m to a FIFA 'affiliate', outside of their contract terms.

[Sutekh]

BBC advising FIFA's sponsors are also voicing concerns...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32910235

Football's governing body Fifa is due to open its annual congress despite warnings from sponsors that they may review ties over the arrest of senior officials on corruption charges.

Fifa's key sponsors have faced increasing calls to put pressure on Fifa as corruption allegations have mounted.

Credit card giant Visa said: "We expect Fifa to take swift and immediate steps to address these issues. Should FIFA fail to do so, we have informed them that we will reassess our sponsorship"

Coca-Cola said: "This lengthy controversy has tarnished the mission and ideals of the Fifa World Cup"

Adidas said it was "fully committed to creating a culture that promotes the highest standards of ethics and compliance, and we expect the same from our partners"

McDonald's, a second-tier sponsor, said the latest developments were "extremely concerning" and it was closely monitoring the situation

Hyundai Motor told the BBC it was "extremely concerned about the legal proceedings being taken against certain FIFA executives and will continue to monitor the situation closely"

Fifa's main sponsors are afforded exposure in stadiums and have the right to use Fifa trademarks in advertising.

More also at http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32909649

[Kitsondinho]

I suspect Russia 2018 will go ahead as planned, due to the timescale involvec etc.....Not so sure about Qatar though. With the amount of time between now and then, it is far more likely they could lose it......which is absurd really. To think they might not host it due to corruption rather than the amount of human rights abuses taking place in Qatar right now.

[Kitsondinho]

BBC advising FIFA's sponsors are also voicing concerns...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32910235

Football's governing body Fifa is due to open its annual congress despite warnings from sponsors that they may review ties over the arrest of senior officials on corruption charges.

Fifa's key sponsors have faced increasing calls to put pressure on Fifa as corruption allegations have mounted.

Credit card giant Visa said: "We expect Fifa to take swift and immediate steps to address these issues. Should FIFA fail to do so, we have informed them that we will reassess our sponsorship"

Coca-Cola said: "This lengthy controversy has tarnished the mission and ideals of the Fifa World Cup"

Adidas said it was "fully committed to creating a culture that promotes the highest standards of ethics and compliance, and we expect the same from our partners"

McDonald's, a second-tier sponsor, said the latest developments were "extremely concerning" and it was closely monitoring the situation

Hyundai Motor told the BBC it was "extremely concerned about the legal proceedings being taken against certain FIFA executives and will continue to monitor the situation closely"

Fifa's main sponsors are afforded exposure in stadiums and have the right to use Fifa trademarks in advertising.

More also at http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32909649

Adidas have the closest of links with FIFA and some of the stuff about it in Andrew Jennings' book is alarming!!