Gomes, Should he stay or should he go? Mk2

[Royality creeps In]

When he was appointed I thought "What the oxf*rd"

When he kept us up I thought "What the oxf*rd"

Our current plight is a "What the oxf*rd"

Get Rid before it's too late

[krapmle]

exactly

[AthleticoSpizz]

Look at our squad

Look what it could do

Yes, I’d call it a re-build

Just need a kick up the arse in front of goal

The passion is still there when we are winning

[royalp-we]

There lies the problem, we haven’t won since August. I’m not alone in thinking I can’t see where we will get our next win, either.

We aren’t scoring and the defending is poor; and getting worse. People seem to be awaiting a magical ‘click’ to happen.

Get someone else in before we get dragged in to the new year in the drop zone.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Yeah...get someone else in

Coz they’ll be on the pitch

Every player had their failings...every player has their assets...we’ve seen both

Give it time, stop getting so hysterical...it’ll come...we've all seen what we are capable of

It’ll come

[Ryucoo]

Nice bit of fence-sitting tbf

Where do you want us (as a club) to be?

Hey I picked a side: I think he should stay. My point being that we are who we are right now, and the replacement is unlikely to be anyone particularly better. Therefore it's a choice between giving any of these managers time to evolve or keep getting in New ones who have to go through the whole 'find their feet' phase again and again.

Maybe Gomes takes us down. Maybe he learns, builds a team, takes us back up again.

Maybe we get someone new in and they magically are fantastic and we return to the level we were many seasons ago.

For me, the first feels more likely. But I dunno. Just my hunch.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Fair does

I am a dinosaur, 50 years in, supporting this team, the thought of dropping a division or two is nothing that I haven’t seen before...therefore doesn’t faze me...seen it all before etc.

The long term future of the club interests me more.

Right now, another change of manager worries me more than the (standard and over reactionary) fear of relegation

[Eaststandman]

I've just read Gomes's post match remarks, and my personal conclusion is that he shall, from now and thereafter evermore be known as the "flim flam man" with perhaps a whiff of bs about him!

[AthleticoSpizz]

Well...we”ve had a good few of them in the (recent) past

Prefer the bs from the experts on here tbf.

[krapmle]

The long term future of the club interests me more.

exactly and that why we need to stop the rot now. I question whether the club can survive at a lower level.
we have moved on since elm park but there is a cost attached.

[WestYorksRoyal]

The long term future of the club interests me more.

exactly and that why we need to stop the rot now. I question whether the club can survive at a lower level.
we have moved on since elm park but there is a cost attached.

My fear about falling to a lower level is that the owners see regression despite their investment and lose interest. We're then left without their funding with some large contracts on the book in League 1.

If they stay and hang around long term, League 1 is realistically just a set back we can rebuild from. But they have no long lasting connection with the area. I don't know what their intentions are and the prospect makes me nervous.

[AthleticoSpizz]

This really would be the test of us being a football club or just another ‘business’

I (still) like to think of us as a club

[Hound]

This really would be the test of us being a football club or just another ‘business’

I (still) like to think of us as a club

I think most people see the way you do. Likewise I got frustrated with people saying Clement had to go last year, and was a little despondent when he did go without getting a fair crack imo

But I just can’t see it with Gomes. He’s had nearly a season now and we’re getting worse. I’d loved it to have worked out for him, but from what I’ve seen, he just hasn’t got it. His PPG is awful

I genuinely think we’ll go down if he hangs around , and realistically that’d be a disgrace with the squad we have made

[Zip]

This really would be the test of us being a football club or just another ‘business’

I (still) like to think of us as a club

I think most people see the way you do. Likewise I got frustrated with people saying Clement had to go last year, and was a little despondent when he did go without getting a fair crack imo

But I just can’t see it with Gomes. He’s had nearly a season now and we’re getting worse. I’d loved it to have worked out for him, but from what I’ve seen, he just hasn’t got it. His PPG is awful

I genuinely think we’ll go down if he hangs around , and realistically that’d be a disgrace with the squad we have made

He is still averaging more than 1ppg. Not great admittedly but I haven’t given up on him yet.

[Denver Royal]

The long term future of the club interests me more.

exactly and that why we need to stop the rot now. I question whether the club can survive at a lower level.
we have moved on since elm park but there is a cost attached.

My fear about falling to a lower level is that the owners see regression despite their investment and lose interest. We're then left without their funding with some large contracts on the book in League 1.

I hear ya, I really do, and I agree. But as I say, I’ve heard in here that relegation would be a good thing for the club. I even heard that we should stick with the manager no matter what, even if we dropped in to League 2. I haven’t heard either the former or the latter espoused much lately though.

[Muskrat]

I'm absolutely certain Gomes will be a good manager, but he needs to accept that the 3 men at at the back are making one big error per match too many.

I was Rodgers in, Adkins in, Stam in and I'm Gomes in.

FTR, I was McDermot out, Clarke out, and Clement out.

Hmm. IMHO Rodgers was totally out of his depth when he was here, Adkins just spouted psychobabble and Stam's "football" was the most turgid I've ever seen us play. Whereas Brian is and always will be a legend and the other two were solid appointments. Funny how opinions differ. So I suppose on that basis I'm Gomes out

[Snowflake Royal]

LMFAO fake snow. What about your insults and we are improving sh*te you posted a few weeks ago.

Too right DD.

I mean, apart from the fact I only said the Boro result was an improvement on the Charlton result in several ways which were entirely factual, and that at the time we were looking like progressing better than the last season.

As of Boro our form was: WDWLL and by all accounts we were heavily knocking on the door of an equaliser.
Since Boro our performance has gone right down the toilet and our form is: LDLL

Although that was certainly an improvement on Fulham.

But then you and I both know krap is a dribbling troll moron.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Yiadom being “brain dead” is hardly your finest moment Ian tbh tbf

[Snowflake Royal]

Yiadom being “brain dead” is hardly your finest moment Ian tbh tbf

Sober up Spizz.

[AthleticoSpizz]

But it was your words..not mine...disgusting