Englands top 20 clubs

[Wax Jacket]

CArdiff > Reading

Top 4 is

Man U
Liverpool
Arsenal
Villa

let's be sensible

2-0 why no huddersfield?

[SpaceCruiser]

CArdiff > Reading

How so? Have they ever been in the top flight?

They might have won the FA Cup once, but that was back in the 1920's....

Actually, I take that back, I've just checked my success tables - Cardiff is a few places ahead of Reading.

But we could catch up...

[The 17 Bus]

CArdiff > Reading

Top 4 is

Man U
Liverpool
Arsenal
Villa

let's be sensible

2-0 why no huddersfield?

too far back, would need to see promise of future success for them to be included, if they storm up the leagues and get 27k crowds they can be added.

[Scylla]

2-0, on what basis do you put United above Liverpool? Not Premier League-itis I hope.

United have always been a bigger club and Liverpool know it and hate it. United have always had the global appeal and have always (odd season excused) pulled in bigger crowds that Liverpool. On the pitch Liverpool may edge United (that gap is closing all the time) but off the pitch United > Liverpool by some disatnce.

We don't hate Utd, just the supporters - and Gary Neville.