Archie's penalty wrote:Brilliant save just before Rooney's winner.
Citeh's defence are sh*t not Given.
Must have changed your mind by now.1871 Royal wrote:Gerrard > LampardNo Fixed Abode wrote:LOL @ TORRES AND GERRARD IN THERE! CAN'T TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.Starfish wrote:We take marks out of 10 awarded to Premier League players from a selection of six national newspapers - The Sun, Daily Star, Daily Mirror, Daily Mail, The Times and The Guardian - then create an average. The top player in each position is rewarded with a spot in our team of the year for 2009.
The team
Goalkeeper: Shay Given (Manchester City) - 6.87
Right back: Glen Johnson (Liverpool) - 6.70 Centre back: Brede Hangeland (Fulham) - 6.60 Centre back: John Terry (Chelsea) - 6.70 Left back: Ashley Cole (Chelsea) - 6.51 Right midfield: Aaron Lennon (Tottenham) - 6.83 Centre midfield: Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) - 7.03 Centre midfield: Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal) - 6.98 Left midfield: Andrei Arshavin (Arsenal) - 7.05 Centre forward: Wayne Rooney (Manchester United) - 7.15 Centre forward: Fernando Torres (Liverpool) - 7.05
HTH
Disagree with this, you don't measure keepers by penalty saves so thats kind of irrelevant. He could possibly command his box a bit better and you don't see him racing out much I'll give you that.Gus the teenage cow wrote:Given is a great shot-stopper but quite poor as a sweeper goalkeeper and is permanently stuck to his line, also is very poor at stopping pens despite what happened at the weekend, also doesn't command his area very well (maybe coz he is on the small side)
Having said all that the most important thing a goalkeeper is required to do is to stop shots and IMO he is probably the best in the world at this so having given the poll a lot of consideration I have decided to abstain based on the fact that the question doesn't provide enough parameters for me to give a thoughtful, considered and wholly accurate response, apologies
Which for someone who is 6'5 is pretty poor going.AF2 wrote:2 soft goals against everton last night, slightly redeemed by a pen save but 16 set piece goals conceded this season suggests cech seriously lacks command of his area
well obviously not!No Fixed Abode wrote:Season/Games played/Clean sheets/Clean sheet %
2009-10 21 16 76 %
2008-09 35 19 58 %
2007-08 21 15 71 %
2006-07 20 13 65 %
2005-06 34 17 50 %
2004-05 37 25 68 %
Best Goalkeeper of French League: 2003-04
PFA Team of the Year: 2005
IFFHS World's Best Goalkeeper: 2005
Barclays Golden Glove: 2004-05
FA Premier League Player of the Month: December 2005, March 2007
UEFA Club Football Awards: Best Goalkeeper: 2005, 2007,[45] 2008
Czech Player of the Year: 2002, 2005, 2007
UEFA Best European Goalkeeper: 2005, 2007, 2008
UEFA Club Football Awards Best Goalkeeper:2003, 2005, 2007, 2008
ESM Team of the Year: 2004-05, 2005-06, 2006-07, 2007-08
World Football Challenge: 2009
Don't think Given can compete with that.
My post above would say otherwise.soggy biscuit wrote:Cech has been sh*t since around 2005
No Fixed Abode wrote:Season/Games played/Clean sheets/Clean sheet %
2009-10 21 16 76 %
2008-09 35 19 58 %
2007-08 21 15 71 %
2006-07 20 13 65 %
2005-06 34 17 50 %
2004-05 37 25 68 %
Best Goalkeeper of French League: 2003-04
PFA Team of the Year: 2005
IFFHS World's Best Goalkeeper: 2005
Barclays Golden Glove: 2004-05
FA Premier League Player of the Month: December 2005, March 2007
UEFA Club Football Awards: Best Goalkeeper: 2005, 2007,[45] 2008
Czech Player of the Year: 2002, 2005, 2007
UEFA Best European Goalkeeper: 2005, 2007, 2008
UEFA Club Football Awards Best Goalkeeper:2003, 2005, 2007, 2008
ESM Team of the Year: 2004-05, 2005-06, 2006-07, 2007-08
World Football Challenge: 2009
Don't think Given can compete with that.

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