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[Terminal Boardom]

BBC OS says

Hayes and Yeading appoint Nas Bashir as manager
Page last updated at 10:08 GMT, Thursday, 16 June 2011 11:08 UK

Hayes and Yeading have appointed former Reading player and coach Nas Bashir as their new manager.

Bashir, 41, replaces Garry Haylock, who left the club by mutual consent at the end of May having led them to 16th in Blue Square Bet Premier last season.

As well as his stint with the Royals, Bashir has also coached at Wycombe and England Under-21s and U-19s.

He will be assisted by Tristan Lewis, who has worked at the Wycombe and Reading academies.

Bashir said: "It's a great chance for me to build upon my reputation and be part of developing a club."

A statement on the club website read: "As one of the brightest young coaches in the national game, the club hope Bashir's appointment sends out a message of intention to the football world that Hayes and Yeading United Football Club continue to build and work towards their goal of becoming a Football League club."

Genuine lolz here. At least Windsor only have aspirations to get as high as Conference South. Beyond that it would be unsustainable.

[Red]

"We're Hayes and Yeading, We're Hayes and Yeading, We'll kick your fvcking head in"

[Barry the bird boggler]

I remember seeing Nas's only goal for Reading in 1989, Tilehurst End I think, wasn't it v Chester....

[moo]

Nas Bashir did soccer skills at my school

[handbags_harris]

...towards their goal of becoming a Football League club."

Doing the double over Oxford United two seasons ago has helped them immensely in their quest...

[Terminal Boardom]

http://www.windsorfc.net/news/110621a.asp

Keith Scott unveilled as the new manager, sorry - FIRST manager of Windsor FC.

[Royal Rother]

Surprised but pleased.

We don't want to be the Big-Time Charlies in the Combined Counties but one has to imagine that Scott will be able to assemble a squad capable of challenging for the title.

[SWLR]

Surprised but pleased.

We don't want to be the Big-Time Charlies in the Combined Counties but one has to imagine that Scott will be able to assemble a squad capable of challenging for the title.

From the links I see that W&E are no more. What went wrong... or will I be told to read the whole thread.

btw, born in Windsor, first 'proper match' was being taken to see W&E reserves at Stag Meadow. First 'big crowd'.. Oakfield vs dealdy enemies Dedworth. Don't remember the score just the running scraps.

[Terminal Boardom]

Surprised but pleased.

We don't want to be the Big-Time Charlies in the Combined Counties but one has to imagine that Scott will be able to assemble a squad capable of challenging for the title.

From the links I see that W&E are no more. What went wrong... or will I be told to read the whole thread.

btw, born in Windsor, first 'proper match' was being taken to see W&E reserves at Stag Meadow. First 'big crowd'.. Oakfield vs dealdy enemies Dedworth. Don't remember the score just the running scraps.

Not to put too fine a point on it but the gist would have been financial mismanagement. All sorts of stories abound in the press and forums so you can pay your money and take your choice. The new club aims and intends to be different by being self sustaining and not relying on a sugar daddy.

No doubt there will be all sorts of speculation and supposition as to what sort of budget the club will operate under. What I know is that the new Chairman will not do anything stupid or reckless. There are some very good people down at Stag Meadow and the is a certain magic about the old ground. Hopefully come 6 August the new club will kick of the league season with a home game.

[Four Of Clubs]

...here's a few choice pre-season games for Windsor. I'm sure they'll have more, probably listed somewhere on their website - no KO or Venue info for the first two yet:

Sat 16th July - Windsor FC v Slough Town

Tue 19th July - Windsor FC v Binfield

Thu 21st July - Windsor FC v Bedfont Town (6.45 @ Eton Town ?? no idea where that is - will check on the East Berks League site)

Thu 28th July - Windsor FC v Ashford Town (Middx) (6.45 @ Eton Town FC)


- I'll dig a bit more later when I have time and probably start up a nice new 11-12 thread with a more comprehensive list - including our other 'local' clubs - those who've announced anything.

[Royal Rother]

Can't wait to see who turns out for Windsor!

Last season was another one of transition after loads of players left following Keith Scott's departure and the friendlies featured many players who never pulled on a Windsor shirt in competitive matches. Basically they were trials it seemed to me and I expect same will apply this season.

[floyd__streete]

Surprised but pleased.

We don't want to be the Big-Time Charlies in the Combined Counties but one has to imagine that Scott will be able to assemble a squad capable of challenging for the title.

Wasn't Keith Scott's overspend responsible for W&E going belly-up?

[Royal Rother]

That was, to a degree, what the previous Chairman said at the time but was actually shown to be pretty much a load of old bollox.

Scott is a very strong personality (Martin O'Neil once described him as "the most arrogant man I've ever met") but the worst that could be levelled at him was that he knew how to get his own way and the Chairman couldn't stand up to him.

Whatever his character, it would be totally wrong to blame Scott for the overspend because he had no real control of the finances and, out of interest, actually worked most of the promotion season without being paid. In fact the club had been in a poor state financially for at least 5 or 6 years - that was the length of time the PAYE had not been paid so it was absolutely stupid for the Chairman to sanction ANY budget that took that dire situation further into the shite.

A right old mess it was to be sure.

It is fair to say that Scott's appointment is not universally popular amongst the, oh, dozens of supporters.

[Royalist]

Rother the fact alot of the die hards who know 'stuff' are up in arms and thinking about walking away tells you more than you need to know! The man isnt liked and even if he's innocent to whatever it is people dont like about him it's a huge PR foul up. A real chance for a clean break has been ruined.

[Alan Partridge]

Sounds the same as Redknapp washing his hands of Portsmouth just blaming the owners for giving Sol Campbell £100k a week and signing players galore for xamount they could never ever afford at their dingey stadium with 17k fans through the gate.

a manager has to take part responsibility over club finances. They will know what is acceptable and isn't acceptable and the chairman needs to strong enough to tell them too **ck off if they cross the line.

This sounds an utterly disastrous decision from Windsor.

[Royal Rother]

Well, the die hards I know personally have no problem with the appointment.

Peter Simpson was for many years extremely popular, having saved the club 15 years ago (or however long ago it was) and I suspect the older supporters who came to respect him hugely over the years have found it extremely difficult to accept that latterly his time in charge was one of incompetence and mismanagement to a level that almost beggars belief. Maybe they'd rather paint Scott as the metaphorical villain whereas in fact, it appears that it was actually Simpson.

Yes, his money kept the ship afloat for many years and he's certainly not a "bad man" but his time had come and gone. Maybe Scott gave Simpson the runaround, maybe he bullied him to get his own way (I really don't know) but my impression is, and certainly has been underlined in no uncertain terms by Stott, that Scott was entirely blameless for the demise of W&EFC.

And AP, "utterly disastrous appointment...."

The new club is looking to the future, and have many initiatives to get new people involved. They won't result in substantially higher gates early on but they will have a slow but steady impact, of that I am confident. Unfortunately if a handful of the old guard decide to upsticks and leave because they don't like the manager then I suspect Stott and Scott will be "happy" to live with that.

Onwards and upwards eh?

[Terminal Boardom]

I have every confidence in the Windsor Chairman being able to keep control. The Chairman has stated publicly that he is not an admirer of Keith Scott. That said, there was an exhaustive selection process to find a new manager and certain criteria had to be met. If that means that the management duo of Keith Scott and Jim Devlin are the best people for the gig then who am I to argue. There are sensible plans in place for WFC to become self financing thus break the tradition of benefactors putting their hands in their pockets on a regular basis. The intention is to build a legacy that the entire community can benefit from. Supporters and Windsorians have the opportunity to contribute financially at the ground floor of something new. The Chairman has also been particularly vocal on the Windsor FC forums which is an incredibly refreshing departure from what happens elsewhere.

As always there will be hidden agendas and plenty of people making a lot of noise about stuff they just don't know. Hopefully, when the league campaign opens on 6th August, Windsor will have a juicy home fixture and that there is a good number to witness it.

[Royalist]

Kevin Stott and Peter Simpson were a duo. Stott bailed out before the waters got choppy. They had a massive falling out and not long after the club couldnt pay its bills. I suspect he was the money man BUT the debt is apparently not just recent stuff so he was there during the time it built up and the club payed out LOTS to the likes of the Holsgrove trio and others during that era so he cannot come out of it squeaky clean UNLESS it's all from the Keith Scott era...in which case Keith Scott cannot come out of it clean!

It's a big mess...but then it always is whatever 'club' is at Stag Meadow!

[Wax Jacket]

I never knew that one small club would arouse such interest

[Royal Rother]

No. Let's be absolutely clear about this.

It WAS a big mess, it isn't anymore.

If the old guard find the present and the future less interesting than the past, and wish to perpetuate the, frankly pathetic, blame-deflecting rubbish that Simpson and his cronies put about about Keith Scott in the past in an effort to discredit him because he is a strong-willed bloke with more than a hint of arrogance about him, then sobeit.

If Stott, the man who has put huge amounts of his time and energy into getting to where we are now and will fund the early launch, and who has had many people approach him about the job, having been through a professional interview and assessment process believes that Keith Scott is the best man for the job, then I firmly but politely suggest that the doubters, whatever their misgivings about the bloke, zip it.