Weekend football 26th & 27th

[Man Friday]

If I say I'm going running for a minimum of 5 minutes, that doesn't mean I'm limited to 5 minutes at 59 seconds.

What is the difficulty in understanding that?

If they say a minimum of 4 minutes additional time, the game can go on further than the 4 minutes.

Of course it can, but the referee is anticipating ending the game around that number that's why the board for 4minutes goes up. If it was more he would say 5 or 6. Of course things can happen in stoppage time which will adjust that number after it's been announced.

If he says 4minutes and nothing else happens to stop the game he SHOULD blow up between 4mins and 4 mins 59seconds. He did that today. So I don't see what the issue is/was.

If he says 4minutes and nothing else happens to stop the game he SHOULD blow up at 4mins. (The "minimum" applies to stoppages DURING the 4 minutes which have to be accounted for.)

[Man Friday]

To me this proves, beyond all doubt, that many football fans don't understand the rules ofthe game. (No surprise there.)

[Man Friday]

Under your definition of a minmum of X (say 4) added minutes, why not apply it as 4 to 5:59 or 4 to 6:59? Or 20 mins. Why stop at 4:59? There's no logic. It's so clearly 4 plus any time needed for ADDITIONAL stoppages (within that 4 mins) that it's untrue.

[southbank1871]

That's 7 posts in a row mf, WTF is going on? Are you arguing with yourself or can I not see other people's replies?

And saying Ianroyal doesn't know anything about football is hardly ground breaking.

[Kitson12]

That's 7 posts in a row mf, WTF is going on? Are you arguing with yourself or can I not see other people's replies?

And saying Ianroyal doesn't know anything about football is hardly ground breaking.

He's having a Snowball moment.

[Royal Lady]

Is this a good place to say that even I know that the "minimum" time e.g. 4 mins for stoppages means that if during the 4 mins there were any other stoppages - notably for an injury, say, that that time would be added to the 4 mins?

[Skyline]

That's 7 posts in a row mf, WTF is going on? Are you arguing with yourself or can I not see other people's replies?

And saying Ianroyal doesn't know anything about football is hardly ground breaking.

He's having a Snowball moment.

Overposting and being wrong at the same time? Yep, sounds like Snowball to me.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Yet more evidence the Premier League is bent to the core. ROFLooney escapes a ban because the referee "took the appropriate action"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 409644.stm

[soggy biscuit]

Wayne Rooney in special treatment shocker

[PlasticRoyale]

tbf Man utd have got some tough games coming up and need their best players available

[papereyes]

Either way, minimum of 4 minutes + no stoppages = 4 minutes played. End of. Not 4 minutes 40 seconds.

At least one Birmingham player got booked for timewasting. I just assumed he added a bit more for that.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

It's 4 mins + any additional stopages, not 4 to 4:59 + any additional stopages.

Er, what? The board is just an indication of the number of whole mins. Its 4mins-4 59sec + additional stoppages, only the ref know exactly how much to the second. Really grates me when commentators say "times up" after exactly the number of mins shown, when they are clearly talking out of their arse.

[PlasticRoyale]

is this written down anywhere on a website endorsed by the FA

just to clear it up

[prostak]

"The fourth official indicates the minimum additional time decided by the
referee at the end of the final minute of each period of play.
The announcement of the additional time does not indicate the exact amount
of time left in the match. The time may be increased if the referee considers it
appropriate but never reduced."

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandRegu ... 201011.pdf

[Svlad Cjelli]

Yet more evidence the Premier League is bent to the core. ROFLooney escapes a ban because the referee "took the appropriate action"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 409644.stm

That's down to the FA's rules, no the PL.

[cmonurz]

I'd say that all rules are open to interpretation, and that the referee deemed a player to have been impeded, and so a free-kick given, doesn't have to mean that the referee saw and dealt with the incident that subsequently became evident.

[No Fixed Abode]

Yet more evidence the Premier League is bent to the core. ROFLooney escapes a ban because the referee "took the appropriate action"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 409644.stm

Thing is the FA are investigating Barry Ferguson for hitting Cockshellney in the Carling Cup final when they scored the winner. But Noel Hunt got away with the same sort of thing against Watford when he scored. Pretty much strangled their player.

[Svlad Cjelli]

Wigan programme gaffe.

[Ian Royal]

But more time can be added on by the ref within added time.

If he indicates a minimum of 5 minutes additional time, and a player goes down for 10 minutes in the 2nd minute of added time, he can end the game after 15 minutes of stoppage time.

No where do I say any different. That's why I said 4.00 - 4.59 + any additional stopages

Has someone let loose a retard virus whilst I wasn't looking and dropped the average HNA IQ from 80 to 13?

FFS, minmum doesn't mean the ref can allow play to continue for another 59 seconds without reason. It's 4 mins + any additional stopages, not 4 to 4:59 + any additional stopages.

FFS, think about it, if the refs had this discretion they'd be uproar if he allowed play to continue for another 59 secs without reason and the other team scored. There's enough problems as it is agreeing the amount of additional time that may be needed beyond the original added time without refs adding time on on a whim.

So you're telling me that refs can only add stopages in normal time that total exactly 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or whatever minutes? That would be ridiculously oxf*rd stupid. How often does a ref stop the game on exactly 91, 92, 93, 94, 95 etc minutes?

[Royal Rother]

The referee clearly runs his own XT watch; seeing as they so often do go beyond the (say) 4 minutes shown on the board but also, on occasions, do blow for full time exactly on 4 mins, I rather assumed that, if the ref's own watch shows less than 4 minutes he will blow exactly on 4 mins, but if it shows more than 4 mins then he'll play more. But that he'll also add time on for any stoppages / time wasting etc. during that 4 mins.

Seems like the logical thing to me anyway.